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Title: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Parker on <03-07-13/1607:30>
Read awhile back about a clock-work calculator found by a group of archeological divers in the Mediterranean that was over two thousand years old and it got me thinking.  How about 4th-Age 'Resonance' technomancers.  The assumption that only magic existed in the prior 4th and 2nd-Age is quite limiting.  Frankly I could see some writers over at Catalyst setting the scene for ancient Resonance 'echoes' and how they may effect the current technomancer population, not to mention the concept of ancient A.I.s' re-appearing.  Talk about true ghosts in the machine...heheheh  ;D
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Mithlas on <03-07-13/1700:36>
Unless technomancers find abilities start spreading into "Ferromancy" and begin competing with Manipulation Mages, I'm really not sure what pre-electric-circuits might have given rise to.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Wildcard on <03-07-13/1711:14>
The antikythera was a glorified calender.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Mirikon on <03-07-13/1927:29>
There's actually a line on this in Emergence where they wonder about whether Resonance could have been around before. Because Technomancers can link wirelessly to eachother, perhaps all those instances of 'psychics' and the like were actually developing technomancers. Least, that's what they said, but at that point they were still throwing things against a wall to see what stuck.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: RHat on <03-07-13/2135:32>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: CanRay on <03-07-13/2200:20>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: RHat on <03-07-13/2208:40>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!

My assumption is that it's going at least as far back as the days of Alan Turing.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Longshot23 on <03-08-13/0101:37>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!

My assumption is that it's going at least as far back as the days of Alan Turing.

Mildly freaky idea: Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine, early/mid 19th Century.

Severely freaky idea: previously unknown invention of da Vinci's . . .
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Wildcard on <03-08-13/1048:41>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!

My assumption is that it's going at least as far back as the days of Alan Turing.

Mildly freaky idea: Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine, early/mid 19th Century.

Severely freaky idea: previously unknown invention of da Vinci's . . .

The headache of trying to deal with a data archival sprite who's only method of communication is displaying abacus positions.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Sichr on <03-08-13/1405:36>
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!

ie Stonehenge
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: I_V_Saur on <03-08-13/1449:10>
Oh, I am going to have good fun with this idea...I always, somehow, end up with a Technomancer in my party. Without fail.

An electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.

That's the definition of a computer. Take out 'electronic', and suddenly you have natural formations that can store data. But only in, say, Sperethiel, or Orz'tet, or another obscure dialect with limited understanding in the present. So Stonehenge can be logged into. Maybe it's a complicated simulation of Mana Storms - who said that only 2070 tech could produce UV nodes?
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: CanRay on <03-08-13/1457:48>
Considering my computer tech background, you don't even want to know what ideas I have...
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Parker on <03-08-13/1925:19>
The antikythera was a glorified calender.
So?  From Stonehenge to the Nazca lines, all could be dismissed as such when they could have been a memory of something bigger. 8)
It is true that the Archive goes back for as long as computers have been around...  Of course, they weren't too specific about what they meant by "as long as computers have been around".
Note that the term "Computer" has been in use for a long, long time.  Before punchcard machines, in fact!

My assumption is that it's going at least as far back as the days of Alan Turing.

Mildly freaky idea: Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine, early/mid 19th Century.

Severely freaky idea: previously unknown invention of da Vinci's . . .

Why not?  After all, da Vinci was supposed to be an IE according to the writers of FASA. ;)
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Mirikon on <03-08-13/1934:45>
Tesla. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: CanRay on <03-08-13/2115:15>
Tesla. 'Nuff said.
Older than Tesla.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Linkdeath on <03-09-13/1252:33>
Computer (n.)
1640s, "one who calculates," agent noun from compute (v.). Meaning "calculating machine" (of any type) is from 1897; in modern use, "programmable digital electronic computer" (1945 under this name; theoretical from 1937, as Turing machine).

Quick and dirty etymology from etymon line.com.
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Parker on <03-12-13/1809:52>
Here's a suggestion for 5th Edition--

     When they finally bring out the obsidimen, (or lore-variant of); have technomancers among them that can access Stonehenge and similar sites. :D
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Sichr on <03-12-13/1818:32>
you are pervert. Or pervect. I just cannot decide
Title: Re: How about ancient Resonance?
Post by: Parker on <03-12-13/1831:54>
Thanks, I think.... 8)