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I been out of the loop for a while but when did Lowfyr and Sirg (?) get hit?
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Sirrurg got jumped by the Azzies, hard. He survived, barely, and was taken to the dragon council, where he got thrown in jail for who knows how long. Lofwyr hasn't been hit, but finally settled things with Alamais, leaving his brother on death's door, and then ordering the runner/merc army he hired to finish the job. Hestaby has been exiled from dragon culture, and her horde (what the other dragons could find of it) has been seized, while Mt. Shasta has been razed, and the Shasta Shamans all killed (or fled). This all went down in Storm Front.
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Well, Lofwyr did get HIT, just not SHOT. The Black Lodge targeted him with a damaging ritual spell.
Also, Ghostwalker and Harlequin had themselves an epic fight all over Denver.
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I swear, everytime i disappear for a bit, the games I play in go nuts.
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Well, Lofwyr did get HIT, just not SHOT. The Black Lodge targeted him with a damaging ritual spell.
Also, Ghostwalker and Harlequin had themselves an epic fight all over Denver.
True, there was that. But Lofwyr wasn't nearly as bad off as Sirrurg or Alamais got. And the dragons have all united under a 'annihilate the Black Lodge' banner now, so that's not going to be pretty.
And yes, the Ghostwalker/Harlequin fight was epic.
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Well, Lofwyr did get HIT, just not SHOT. The Black Lodge targeted him with a damaging ritual spell.
Also, Ghostwalker and Harlequin had themselves an epic fight all over Denver.
True, there was that. But Lofwyr wasn't nearly as bad off as Sirrurg or Alamais got. And the dragons have all united under a 'annihilate the Black Lodge' banner now, so that's not going to be pretty.
At the same time, though, you just know there's something more behind the Black Lodge...
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A lot of fans (I'm not in the know, so don't quote me on this as official!) believes that Hestaby is trying to make it as a Shadowrunner now to try and make ends meet.
Expect to see a lot of posts on Data Havens like this:
> LFG.
> Orange Queen
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Heh. Iceblade would join that group in a heartbeat. Would be an interesting experience.
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She's not the only dragon who may be running the shadows.
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Well Perriwyn may be back in the shadows I guess. And artifact dragon (struggling with the name at the moment, Bottled Demon dragon)
Feel a little bit hesitant to see the Orange Queen working the shadows though. Could anything in the shadows really withstand her power?
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I swear, everytime i disappear for a bit, the games I play in go nuts.
Shadowrun has never not been nuts.
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The latest sighting of the Orange Queen happened in the UK; Rhonabwy may be offering Hestaby safe haven/sanctuary in his domain.
https://twitter.com/Jackpoint2075/status/324660198016942080 (https://twitter.com/Jackpoint2075/status/324660198016942080)
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Conflicting reports also have Hestaby at this year's Coachella event.
Attending, not performing, mind you, despite the fact that her hackey-sack skills are "Righteous" and her hoola-hoop is "Wicked gnarley".
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Conflicting reports also have Hestaby at this year's Coachella event.
Attending, not performing, mind you, despite the fact that her hackey-sack skills are "Righteous" and her hoola-hoop is "Wicked gnarley".
Doppelganger Wak. Doppelgangers.
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She's not the only dragon who may be running the shadows.
Probably the only Great Dragon, now that The Big D is off in Dragon Heaven.
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Well Perriwyn may be back in the shadows I guess. And artifact dragon (struggling with the name at the moment, Bottled Demon dragon)
Feel a little bit hesitant to see the Orange Queen working the shadows though. Could anything in the shadows really withstand her power?
If she has to keep a low profile, she is stuck in her metahuman form, which means at that point there are limits to her power (ability to withstand damage from high powered sniper rifles, for instance).
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Unless she just sustains Force 52 Armour and Combat Sense spells.
Hestaby's Magic is high. Very, very high.
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Indeed. I wouldn't worry about Hestaby getting sniped. If someone who isn't even an Immortal Elf like Surehand can have defenses in place to avoid getting sniped, you know Hestaby can manage it just fine.
Perianwyr could be back in the game, depending on how well things between him and Ghostwalker got settled.
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If she has to keep a low profile, she is stuck in her metahuman form, which means at that point there are limits to her power (ability to withstand damage from high powered sniper rifles, for instance).
Unless she just sustains Force 52 Armour and Combat Sense spells.
Hestaby's Magic is high. Very, very high.
Indeed. I wouldn't worry about Hestaby getting sniped. If someone who isn't even an Immortal Elf like Surehand can have defenses in place to avoid getting sniped, you know Hestaby can manage it just fine.
She could borrow a lot of buttons from Harley. ;D (Seriously, look at his button list in Street Legends Supplemental (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/98146/Shadowrun%3A-Street-Legends-Supplemental)! Then imagine a dragon accessorizing!)
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Hackey sack power focus?
No, wait. Hackey sack centering focus. :P
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Well Perriwyn may be back in the shadows I guess. And artifact dragon (struggling with the name at the moment, Bottled Demon dragon)
Arleesh
-Chris
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Arleesh doesn't really seem like she personally gets involved in the shadows. She'll show up to appropriate things that may be magical threats, but other than that, she doesn't really look like the kind who would get her hands dirty. Like most dragons, she uses proxies and pawns to hide her movements. Really, other than Perianwyr, I can't think of another dragon getting his talons dirty by actually doing the shadow-work themselves. If Hestaby steps into the shadows herself, now that she can't rely on her hoard to pay runners, that'll be something to see.
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Perianwyr could be back in the game, depending on how well things between him and Ghostwalker got settled.
Peri has.. problems. When last we left our intrepid dragon, he was rotting in a jail cell in Denver.
However, I'm working on a 4 Mission adventure set for Origins called "The Dragon's Song" that follows up on this.
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Peri was busted out towards the end of the chaos in Denver happenings in Stormfront.
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Not true, Bull. He got sprung out while Harlequin was causing chaos in Denver and fighting Ghostwalker. Storm Front, pg 111
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Arleesh doesn't really seem like she personally gets involved in the shadows. She'll show up to appropriate things that may be magical threats, but other than that, she doesn't really look like the kind who would get her hands dirty. Like most dragons, she uses proxies and pawns to hide her movements. Really, other than Perianwyr, I can't think of another dragon getting his talons dirty by actually doing the shadow-work themselves. If Hestaby steps into the shadows herself, now that she can't rely on her hoard to pay runners, that'll be something to see.
Given the opportunity, I bet Ghostwalker would give it a go. Sirrurg too.
The two of them would be Pink Mohawk as drek if Denver and NatVat are any indications.
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Yup. And who do you think those Shadowrunners will be? Duh. Mission 1 takes place during that chaos.
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One thing threw me in Storm Front. In the character section, it states that Frosty is from the Path of The Wheel tradition.....
.....which is kind of odd, given that she was initially self-taught (in Missouri), and then extensively tutored by Harlequin (who laughs in the general direction of modern Traditions), and maybe Ehran (who she seems to be the gofer for, nowadays). That's not a whole lot of connection with Tir Na Nog, which is where the Wheel is primarily found (rather exclusively, from the Street Magic writeup).
Sure, she's in her 40's, but.....you'd think she'd be more or less in the same tradition as Harlequin, just with a lot less "investment".
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One thing threw me in Storm Front. In the character section, it states that Frosty is from the Path of The Wheel tradition.....
.....which is kind of odd, given that she was initially self-taught (in Missouri), and then extensively tutored by Harlequin (who laughs in the general direction of modern Traditions), and maybe Ehran (who she seems to be the gofer for, nowadays). That's not a whole lot of connection with Tir Na Nog, which is where the Wheel is primarily found (rather exclusively, from the Street Magic writeup).
Sure, she's in her 40's, but.....you'd think she'd be more or less in the same tradition as Harlequin, just with a lot less "investment".
And where is it you think they got the Path of the Wheel from in the first place?
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One thing threw me in Storm Front. In the character section, it states that Frosty is from the Path of The Wheel tradition.....
.....which is kind of odd, given that she was initially self-taught (in Missouri), and then extensively tutored by Harlequin (who laughs in the general direction of modern Traditions), and maybe Ehran (who she seems to be the gofer for, nowadays). That's not a whole lot of connection with Tir Na Nog, which is where the Wheel is primarily found (rather exclusively, from the Street Magic writeup).
Sure, she's in her 40's, but.....you'd think she'd be more or less in the same tradition as Harlequin, just with a lot less "investment".
And where is it you think they got the Path of the Wheel from in the first place?
Given that we (and by "we", I mean "I") don't know who all was involved in the founding* of Tir Na Nog (Brane is an Immortal Elf, but was evidently the same as Frosty, a post-Awakening addition to the stable).....I don't know. The writeup for the Path of The Wheel more or less states that it's Tir Na Nog-only (with some of it's higher paths being exclusive to the Danaan families and their buddies).
I figured that, if some of the Immortals were involved in developing the Path, that it was a watered-down version.......since most of the IEs (other than Ehran, Harlequin, and Aina) aren't exactly the most caring and giving type of people (IOW, they'd give the Tir a "better" system of magic than was otherwise available in the Sixth World, but one that was still no threat to them). Thus, it would seem to follow that Frosty, being the pupil of Harlequin (who apparently wasn't involved with either Tir, at all, much less having anything to do with their magic), would get a better "product".
In other words: "urggh?"
*-we know that Ehran, Sean Laverty (is he a new IE, or a holdover from the Fourth World?), and Aithne Oakforest were all behind the founding of Tir Tairngire. Tir Na Nog seems a bit more nebulous (though Alachia seems to be tight with Brane).
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The immortal elves were behind the founding of both Tirs. And a lot of that 'elven culture' stuff that just mysteriously appeared about the same time? That was them recreating things from the past. Sperethiel is the elven tongue from the Fourth World. And yes, the Path of the Wheel came from some of the immortal elves. The reincarnation thing is a big thing in Tir Nan Og.
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Yup. And who do you think those Shadowrunners will be? Duh. Mission 1 takes place during that chaos.
Someone is jealous of Elven Blood. :P
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Yup. And who do you think those Shadowrunners will be? Duh. Mission 1 takes place during that chaos.
Someone is jealous of Elven Blood. :P
Most of us are jealous of Elven Blood....
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True.
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I helped develop Elven Blood, why would I be jealous of it? :)
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I helped develop Elven Blood, why would I be jealous of it? :)
Bull develops Elven Blood every time he punches one of those Keebs in the face. :P
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Speaking of punching, how's the spine these days? It's been two years since you got blown up, I assume you can walk properly again?
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Since Hestaby is......"changing careers", any chance we'll see Orange Queen posting on Jackpoint?
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Fastjack lives by the Runner's credo, which ends, "... and never, ever cut a deal with a Dragon."
So Orange Queen? Probably not.
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Fastjack lives by the Runner's credo, which ends, "... and never, ever cut a deal with a Dragon."
So Orange Queen? Probably not.
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Have you read Storm Front? 'Jack's no longer running Jackpoint...[/color]
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1) Fastjack is no longer on or running Jackpoint.
2) Cerberus is in, so no reason Orange Queen can't show up.
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Maybe I'm looking in the wrong books, (Haven't gotten to Storm Front yet, for example) but I haven't seen any follow-up to Cerberus. He was temporarily restricted in access, and I have no clue how far he's advanced from then.
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Cerberus, like any good hacker, keeps popping up in the shadowtalk.
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He could also count as the JackPoint's mascot, being a Non-Metahuman Sapient.
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You go ahead and tell him that. I'll sit over here and watch.
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You go ahead and tell him that. I'll sit over here and watch.
No thanks, I just got out of the hospital and am still healing.
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Cerberus couldn't hack it in the real world so he went virtual. He's the stereotypical MMO geek.
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Cerberus couldn't hack it in the real world so he went virtual. He's the stereotypical MMO geek.
No, that'd be Harley before he got his mad on with Ghostie. ;D
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Harlie's a LARPer, running around dressed like a knight in the 2070s? Was he serious? ;)
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Harlie's a LARPer, running around dressed like a knight in the 2070s? Was he serious? ;)
Since that armor probably offered better protection against a dragon than milspec armor, I'll go with yes, he was serious. Pulling out that armor was him showing Ghostwalker just how serious he was.
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You think that was that the armor he got from the Big D? Richard the Lionhearted's armor I think it was.
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Yes, he did get Richard the Lionheart's armor. And if anyone turned in Excalibur, he'd have that, too.
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And, with the change he found in the cushions of his couch, he could also have a Fairlight Excalibur/Caliban too!
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About Cerberus, I just plain haven't seen any more of his posts. I surmised he would be back, my question iswhere does he pop up? Stormfront, Spy Games?
While we're at it, will 5th clean up price consistency a touch?
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Yes, he did get Richard the Lionheart's armor. And if anyone turned in Excalibur, he'd have that, too.
Are there any rules for magic armor that I'm unaware of? And Harlie still has tht sword he squared off against Ehran with. Hard to see something better than a Weapon Focus in the 20s.
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Yes, he did get Richard the Lionheart's armor. And if anyone turned in Excalibur, he'd have that, too.
Are there any rules for magic armor that I'm unaware of? And Harlie still has tht sword he squared off against Ehran with. Hard to see something better than a Weapon Focus in the 20s.
Who knows, Excalibur might be like Force 40 or something. It IS a Legendary artifact after all. Though Force 20 would be pretty fragging Legendary to me...
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Just because there aren't rules for it doesn't mean Dragons and Immortal Elves don't have it. The rules don't cover everything that exists.
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Just because there aren't rules for it doesn't mean Dragons and Immortal Elves don't have it. The rules don't cover everything that exists.
Indeed.
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Just because there aren't rules for it doesn't mean Dragons and Immortal Elves don't have it. The rules don't cover everything that exists.
They certainly don't cover things that have existed since the last age of magic. If it helps you wrap your head around it, just assume that the personal weapons/armor of any great dragon or immortal elf are artifact level.
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Or perhaps Plot Device level.
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Does that mean Harley was wearing literal Plot Armour?
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Just because there aren't rules for it doesn't mean Dragons and Immortal Elves don't have it. The rules don't cover everything that exists.
Indeed.
*nods* Truly
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Or perhaps Plot Device level.
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Does that mean Harley was wearing literal Plot Armour?
No, he was wearing another suit of armor. ;D
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It would make a certain amount of sense if they were created in the 4th Age.
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Just because there aren't rules for it doesn't mean Dragons and Immortal Elves don't have it. The rules don't cover everything that exists.
Indeed.
*nods* Truly
Quite.
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Cerberus couldn't hack it in the real world so he went virtual. He's the stereotypical MMO geek.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
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About Cerberus, I just plain haven't seen any more of his posts. I surmised he would be back, my question iswhere does he pop up? Stormfront, Spy Games?
Street Legends and Corporate Intrigue feature him. He gets a whole chapter of Street Legends, so that'd be a place to check. I wrote it. I can't remember if I shoe-horned him into Storm Front or not, but he's something of a pet character of mine (duh).
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About Cerberus, I just plain haven't seen any more of his posts. I surmised he would be back, my question iswhere does he pop up? Stormfront, Spy Games?
Street Legends and Corporate Intrigue feature him. He gets a whole chapter of Street Legends, so that'd be a place to check. I wrote it. I can't remember if I shoe-horned him into Storm Front or not, but he's something of a pet character of mine (duh).
He shows up in Storm Front, yes.