Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => The Secret History => Topic started by: Jetpack on <05-05-13/0903:17>
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Hi Folks,
Question about SK and Seattle, so thought that Secret History might be the right place for it.
The Almanac says that SK was going to build their new Seattle office using nanotechnology as of 2069. Seattle 2072 indicates that SK still has no Seattle presence.
I know that there are references to some reason that Lofwyr hasn't set up shop in Seattle, but they don't appear to be publicly known.
Is it known if SK is going to be building that Seattle office? SK plays a large role in the game I'm doing for my wife, so curious about if anyone knows.
Thanks!
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Well, here's the thing: while I don't know for certain if S-K has 'a building' in Seattle, this doesn't mean they aren't active in Seattle. This may actually be a mark of Gold Snout's exceptional intelligence; so many major corporations have major presences in Seattle, he uses the city as an intelligence-gathering locale, while denying them a convenient place to sneak someone into HIS back pocket - he can have specialists against each corporation in less-tangled environs, instead of having to defend against everyone all at once in Seattle.
My advice: allow SK to NOT have a Seattle presence, thus making the sprawl a comparatively safe one for your dear one.
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My advice: allow SK to NOT have a Seattle presence, thus making the sprawl a comparatively safe one for your dear one.
Exactly what Mr. Brackhaus wants you to think.
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I'm sure SK has a presence in Seattle, I was just curious if in canon it was still intended for an "official" presence to happen using nanotechnology.
Thanks for the responses!
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Corporate Shadowfiles actually listed both S-K Northwest and S-K Aerospace as being headquartered in Seattle back in the 2050s, but other sources have stated that S-K does not have any directly owned companies in Seattle.
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Perhaps they were forced to relocate their real estate? Companies move their mailboxes to different countries all the time as tax dodges, was there any more info into what kinda real estate they owned in 2050 seattle?
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Maybe relocated to the Tir after it opened its borders to them?
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SK has its North American headquarters in Tir Tairngir, IIRC. They've also purchased some land in the Salish lands, I think, but haven't done anything with it.
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God i recall the reason for SK not to have mayor presence in seattle mentioned somewhere. I just cannot remember where and what the reason was.
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S-K America had a big ass office tower in downtown Seattle in 2061 during my Year of the Comet campaign, with top secret black ops facilities on the top and bottom levels.
It did not occur to me at the time that that was a break from canon.
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S-K America had a big ass office tower in downtown Seattle in 2061 during my Year of the Comet campaign, with top secret black ops facilities on the top and bottom levels.
It did not occur to me at the time that that was a break from canon.
As breaks go, its a good one.
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It was kinda weird deja vu for me when I read in Seattle 2072 that S-K was building an HQ in Seattle because part of my brain was like..."Hey, they already HAVE that!"
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S-K North America's original HQ was in Charlotte, CAS - and apparently the division didn't even exist in the 2050s, according to the Corporate Download - which also states that S-K had "minimal presence" in the Americas, although admitting that meant only known ownership of companies.
New Seattle states that "Technically, Saeder-Krupp has no offices or facilities in Seattle" and then mentions that various local companies are owned under the table.
I think that, unfortunately, the references to S-K Northwest and S-K Aerospace were simply overlooked and forgotten by later sources.
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S-k north america
Saeder-Krupp North America is headquartered in Portland, Tir Tairngire, and led by Ludmilla Reanka, under whose direction the division has been thriving. After recently inaugurating the divi-sion’s Seattle office, Reanka began negotiating with other NAN member states and the CAS for new contracts and began initiating joint ventures with local players such as Mesametric, High Plains Coding, and Barrett Firearms Manufacturing. Reanka has also attempted to resume economic relations with the UCAS government, but Damien Knight has used his UCAS government ties (the senators he keeps in Ares’s pocket) to block those efforts.
Seems like Ares is involved for SK lacking major presence in UCAS territory...Seattle included
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Lowfyr had a presence in the UCAS in the original Secrets of Power book. I've forgotten what the company was called though?
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Lowfyr had a presence in the UCAS in the original Secrets of Power book. I've forgotten what the company was called though?
Just re-read these fairly recently and I don't believe Lofwyr's ownership of any Seattle corps is explicitly mentioned. He definitely interferes with the operations of the dragon Haesslich, who was head of security for United Oil before being taken out by Sam Verner and Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside (and Ghost's urban tribe).
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Saeder-Krupp isn't even mentioned in the first Secrets of Power book - Lowfyr is encountered at a genetics corporation in Quebec, of all places.
S-K is mentioned in the second book as one of the owners of ATT, which has shown up in game sources as well.
S-K's lack of (official) presence for most of North America appears to be in part because they are banned in pretty much every nation there except the CAS, UCAS and Quebec - although Tir Tairngire's ban was lifted as soon as he was no longer a Prince.
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S-K's North American HQ is a bit of a bugbear.
It's mentioned as being in Charlotte in a place or two, but in the Tir later, which made more sense since, you know, he was on the Council of Princes and had to be there from time to time for official duties *anyway*. For Dirty Tricks, this got a bit of a massage, with the Charlotte office being the CAS HQ that was large enough to serve as the NA HQ, and was being set-up as such during the Dragon Civil War, until Hestaby got defanged in the Tir herself.
S-K Prime got a North American HQ in Atlanta, and S-K as a whole is quite popular in the CAS, allowing them to fan out from there.
Since the NA HQ is in Portland, just down the river, it makes sense that S-K wouldn't waste a ton of money building up officies in Seattle, but it's safe to say that they have lots of subsidiaries skulking around in disguise. :)
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It's mentioned as being in Charlotte in a place or two, but in the Tir later, which made more sense since, you know, he was on the Council of Princes and had to be there from time to time for official duties *anyway*.
Actually, the Tir Tairngire sourcebook specifically stated the Tir government didn't allow Saeder-Krupp to conduct business inside the Tir to prevent "conflict of interests" with Lofwyr position as a prince. Shadows of North America specifically mentions S-K applying for a business license only after Lofwyr stepped down from the council in 2062.
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And anything else on this Ludmilla Reanka