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Title: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: DamienHollow on <05-11-13/0036:57>
Okay, it strikes me as odd that there's no capacity that I can find on Gas Masks. Gas Masks don't have ratings because they just offer you flat one-hour immunity to inhaled toxins thanks to an air tank. You'd think that ultrasound, low light, and/or thermographic would be common to find on such gear.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: VajraSupremus on <05-11-13/0048:59>
Maybe it's lower face only? I thought this too until I realized the potential of them NOT being a full face covering.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: DamienHollow on <05-11-13/0052:25>
Actually the fluff says they cover the full face.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Kiirnodel on <05-11-13/0108:58>
The Gas Masks aren't explicitly listed as being able to take things like vision enhancements.

But it wouldn't be outrageous to buy a Gas Mask and a set of Goggles, paying the full amount for both and describing it as a single item that is a Gas Mask that has a high tech display in the face mask (or something like that).
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: VajraSupremus on <05-11-13/0128:44>
They have that in WAR!. The Death Mask, which has the capacity for visual mods, a built-in rebreather, and slight intimidation factor.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: DamienHollow on <05-11-13/0140:18>
There are also GM's that ban the War! book out right. Most just limit what you can get from it.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: firebug on <05-11-13/0257:45>
I did something like this for Firebug.  I just had her get a helmet, and paid to put an internal air tank inside it.  Otherwise, you could use the stats for the Death Mask from Attitude on page 155.  It's a helmet that's also a gasmask, and thus it can get vision enhancements like all helmets can.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: mtfeeney = Baron on <05-11-13/0741:35>
Wait, helmets can get vision enhancements? :o
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <05-11-13/0759:28>
Following the Armor Suit Capacity rules in Arsenal, yes. On top of that, some of the helmets in Arsenal already come with some enhancements. For example, a firefighter Bunker Helmet comes with thermo vision, low light, flare comp and gas mask, then has 3 capacity left.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Mantis on <05-11-13/0823:56>
Yup and the full body armour helmet from the SR4A book comes with 7 capacity while the Bike Racing helmet from Arsenal comes with Flare Comp, Image Link, Wireless and Surround Sound music system and has 6 capacity after that.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: mtfeeney = Baron on <05-11-13/0843:14>
And here I've been smooshing tons of stuff into a pair of contacts and goggles...
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: JoeNapalm on <05-11-13/0952:26>
Maybe it's lower face only? I thought this too until I realized the potential of them NOT being a full face covering.

Says the guy who's never been Tear Gassed.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: mtfeeney = Baron on <05-11-13/1006:30>
The thing that doesn't cover your whole face is called a respirator.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Prodigy on <05-11-13/1120:12>
Maybe it's lower face only? I thought this too until I realized the potential of them NOT being a full face covering.

Says the guy who's never been Tear Gassed.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Yeah, tear gas sucks to touch your skin. When it's in our eyes, it is just horrible. Some guys throw up it's so bad. Military gas masks cover your whole face, and I wouldn't label military as masks as "milspec" because there are better civilian models.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Aryeonos on <05-13-13/1513:23>
Though, gas masks we use today, (Like the kind my husband bought from the local army navy surplus) are just gasket sealed respirators that cover the whole face. They have no air supply, only 1 or 2 (maybe more) filters that block out a variety of threats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_mask#Filter_classification). That's not to say there aren't SCUBA style breathing masks, but what you're likely to pick up uses chemical and mechanical means of filtration.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Mithlas on <05-13-13/1523:57>
As Prodigy already mentioned, there are a variety of styles and people with the money to customize and a lack of rules to tell them not to would likely have the better gear. The military, being a government-associated bureaucracy, tends towards the lowest bidder for equipment, and issues it to everybody. I've seen exterminators with full-face-covering gas masks with a tiny compressed air tank, and I'd bet that there are other even better ones.

In Arsenal, the Bunker Helmet is mentioned as having integrated Thermographic, Low-light Vision, and Flare Compensation with a Gas Mask, so it's at least possible if you're going for a helm-type setup.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: CanRay on <05-13-13/1629:11>
I know I've been tempted at the Israeli-Surplus Gas Masks my FLGS/Army Surplus store sells.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: JoeNapalm on <05-13-13/1643:32>

I wonder how much attention a gas mask would draw in 2072?

I mean, it's not like the air is clean.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: Aryeonos on <05-13-13/1648:17>
The one my husband bought was Israeli, it's gotta little drinky straw in it! And some other nice features, like a metal plate that allows you to speak and be heard normally. Though I think those are common place now.

I doubt very much that a respirator would draw undo attention. Even a rain slicker, cap, goggles, and respirator doesn't sound too outlandish to me, if it were say a bad weather day. If it's out in the country or a cleaner city though, it might not pass so nicely, though I would guess the locals would just label you as city folk.
Title: Re: Gas Mask capacity?
Post by: CanRay on <05-13-13/1708:37>
I wonder how much attention a gas mask would draw in 2072?

I mean, it's not like the air is clean.

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Depends on the city.  In Aztlan, decorating your air mask is part of doing your make-up for the day.  Even for men.

Really makes Día de Muertos an interesting day, let me tell you!

A full-on gas mask, OTOH, would draw some attention.  Mostly it's paper filters (like you see in construction sites and can buy 10-for-a-dollar) ranging to simple breath masks (The lower-face part of the gas masks, no headpiece above the nose) would be part of Lifestyle for the area you're living in.  Including Seattle when the Ash Content in the rain (er...  Air) gets too bad due to Volcano Rainier being a little more cranky than usual.  Or the wind is blowing the wrong way.  Or the "Tacoma Aroma" smells less like money and more like industrial pollution.  Or the magician researched a "Stinking Cloud" spell after one-too-many games of D&D 32nd Edition.