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Title: Ucas holidays
Post by: Stormcrow on <09-30-14/1203:02>
Is Thanksgiving still celebrated?
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: Namikaze on <09-30-14/1230:06>
Interesting question.  This certainly looks simple on the outside, but there are a lot of cultural elements of Thanksgiving that can butt heads with the history of Shadowrun.  For instance, Canada doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving the way that America does, and with the addition of the Canadian states it would seem reasonable to assume that the celebration might have changed.  The factor that I think makes the big difference is the rise of the NAN.  Thanksgiving is often associated with images of stereotypical native Americans, which would probably be heavily frowned upon by the NAN.  Additionally (this isn't fluff) but it seems reasonable to me that a group of NAN terrorists might try to ruin the Thanksgiving celebration at some point.

Here's my theory: Thanksgiving probably evolved over the decades to be less about the pilgrims and their first harvest feast, to be more about family time.  We sort of see that happening in a lot of parts of the US anyway.  With the other two major changes to the country, it seems reasonable to me that the American states would have adopted a tradition more akin to Canadian Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: Zwischenzug on <09-30-14/1231:16>
Canadian Thanksgiving, eh?

Sorry, I don't have anything else to add to this :D
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: JackVII on <09-30-14/1234:28>
Is Thanksgiving still celebrated?
Sure, but in the grimdark reality of the future, it's called Thanksfornothing
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: 8-bit on <09-30-14/1234:47>
I have no idea, but it seems like Thanksgiving would be more of a CAS thing. Being that they are "true Americans" or something. Just my opinion, I do not have any actual facts.
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: Sendaz on <09-30-14/1332:44>
Canadian Thanksgiving, eh?
So a Turkey with a Maple Syrup Glaze and filled with Bacon & a Tim Horton based stuffing?

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I could live with that.

Edited to include bacon,  no idea how I forgot that.
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: Zwischenzug on <09-30-14/1334:17>
Canadian Thanksgiving, eh?
So a Turkey with a Maple Syrup Glaze and stuffed with a Tim Horton based stuffing?

....


I could live with that.
Oooooh...
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: cantrip on <09-30-14/1401:31>
Is Thanksgiving still celebrated?
Sure, but in the grimdark reality of the future, it's called Thanksfornothing
I think you nailed it! ;)

Here's my theory: Thanksgiving probably evolved over the decades to be less about the pilgrims and their first harvest feast, to be more about family time.
That would be my take too - or at least it evolved to the point where wageslaves just work it to impress their superiors. Kind of an "Official Holiday" that everyone that isn't upper management works on.
I could also see black friday as being a celebrated "holiday" -- one that a good wageslave goes and dutifully spends a third of their income at the approved arcology shopping mall! ;)
Title: Re: Ucas holidays
Post by: BetaCAV on <10-02-14/0109:33>
The factor that I think makes the big difference is the rise of the NAN.  Thanksgiving is often associated with images of stereotypical native Americans, which would probably be heavily frowned upon by the NAN.  Additionally (this isn't fluff) but it seems reasonable to me that a group of NAN terrorists might try to ruin the Thanksgiving celebration at some point.
... except for all the "wanna-be tribals", which I would think the NAN would dislike even more. There ought to be a "Tribal Poser" NQ.

Here's my theory: Thanksgiving probably evolved over the decades to be less about the pilgrims and their first harvest feast, to be more about family time.  We sort of see that happening in a lot of parts of the US anyway.  With the other two major changes to the country, it seems reasonable to me that the American states would have adopted a tradition more akin to Canadian Thanksgiving.
I suspect it's more related to the dwindling portion of the population that has anything at all to do with any kind of "harvest" in the first place. It's all owned, run, and controlled by Ag mega-corps in the 2070s, and their profit margins probably don't allow for much of a bounty.
The wage-slaves should be focusing on a more marketable holiday, anyway... like Xmas, or Chanukah, or (even better) the Winter Solstice. Your employer knows what you buy and how much you spend, and if you don't shop for gifts for the people they feel should be important to you, you'll be spending an afternoon in HR, explaining why (and probably being sent for counseling).