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Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: zeththeadeptork on <04-27-15/1949:36>
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I'm building a minotaur mage and want a Claymore weapon foci it's 7karma for a force 2 spear how much should it be for the Claymore at force 2 & 3 respectively I was thinking 10 for it to be force 2. 15k FOR FORCE 3 and id still pay the karma to bind at char Gen as well.
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I'm not sure what your asking.
This are the basic costs to Purchase & Bond a Weapon Focus.
Force-1
3 Karma + $7,000 + Cost of Basic Mundane Claymore (I don't know what the base cost of 1 is.)
Force-2
6-Karma + $14,000 + Cost of Basic Mundane Claymore
Force-3
9-Karma + $21,000 + Cost of Basic Mundane Claymore
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i was referencing PACKS and how to buy a force 2/3 weapon foci and i understand the force x 3. to be able to use it i was trying to figure out a way to purchase it via packs specifically so i can buy it with karma and not nyuen
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As a pack it doesn't work as you won't get to a value that after dividing by 2,000 gets you a natural number.
A Highland Forge Claymore costs 4,500 ¥ and you pay 7,000 ¥ per Force for a weapon focus.
But since you're either converting 1 karma to 2,000 ¥ or buy PACKS that consist of stuff with a value that is a multiple of 2,000 ¥, I suggest you take a look at PACKS for inspiration but ignore them altogether when it comes to purchasing your gear and do your math on your own. It will get you a better result in the end.
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okay so it has to be a multiple of 2000.fair enough
I was thinking force 3 Claymore with quickdraw sheath and personalized grip round it up and go from there? Btw where is personalized grip I can't find it or the sheath( quickdraw holster is size excluded so price/ book & pg?
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No need for "shouting" zeth.
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okay so it has to be a multiple of 2000.fair enough
I was thinking force 3 Claymore with quickdraw sheath and personalized grip round it up and go from there? Btw where is personalized grip I can't find it or the sheath( quickdraw holster is size excluded so price/ book & pg?
It doesn't have to be a multiple of 2000. Every point of karma you put into money gives you 2000 nuyen to spend, but it doesn't have to be spend on the same thing. PACKS are just a convenient way of doing that - they put together a flat multiple of 2000 nuyen worth of stuff so it's more conveniently bought with karma. But nothing is stopping you from transforming karma to nuyen the classical way.
A F3 claymore is 7000x3, or 21000. Add the claymore (4500) and you end up with 25500. You can buy that for 13 karma (=26000), with 500 nuyen left over (part of which would go into the Personalized Grip and Sheath).
Personalized grips are clarified in the Missions FAQ, I believe.
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thank you now does anyone know where the quick draw sheath it or can I just triple the price of the holster
Edit: reduced font size
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@zeth - no need to shout ;) Might want to check you font size next time you post.
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sorry didnt realize font size denotes shouting, my bad.
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Of course if you wanted to go silly look at the Highlands Claymore from Run & Gun ;D
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ahhh, thats better now, a much more friendly atmosphere her (when nobody's shouting for no reason at all) :D
@Quick Draw Sheeth
there is no RAW( IIRC) ImO a Knife sheath would be the same cost like a Holster and a Sword Sheeth normal to double a Claymore or No Dachi Sheath... Normal to triple
(depending on how "Hartwurst " Your game shall be)
he who likes to Dance
Medicineman
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Bah. Claymore. Talk to your GM about a highly collapsable halberd/naginata, using a modified Victorinox memory blade (1500¥ + modification) and a telescoping staff (350¥), and add your weapon focus cost onto that. If you have the Victorinox's 'hidden mode' be a solid ball, in collapsed mode it would probably be a very efficient mace - and you might just get the weapon focus advantages as well.
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im pretty stuck on using the highlander claymore. its just part of the character i want to build.
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The Claymore offers the best bang for your buck for high-STR characters. It only has an important drawback, as far as character generation is concerned:
Availability!
With 14R it's above the maximum of 12 for standard runners, so you'd need Restricted Gear or convince your table to customize the generation rules. Maybe you can save a bit of money and have the Face get it for you. But that won't help with the focus part, as your desired focus is the claymore. You can't buy it partially.
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The Claymore offers the best bang for your buck for high-STR characters. ....
Sledgehammer ?!!
( 40 Bucks, 140 with a personalized Grip ;) )
with a dance to
"If I had a Hammer,...."
Medicineman
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I don't consider a base Accuracy of 3 worth it. The Claymore may only be two points higher but it also has +1 reach which takes another die away from the defender. A weapon can also be too cheap, if you have to wait for the stars to line up in a special way to actually hit something worthwile. :)
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thats why I mentioned the personalized Grip. that in combination with Adept Powers and you have an ACC of 5
See the Cloud disperse, more open Skies for more Stars to Shine
( You need an average Pool of >15 Dice to be Hampered this way, a Pool of > 12 if You're not an Adept)
Its not that the Claymore is better,it is
what was wrong was
The Claymore offers the best bang for your buck for high-STR characters.
which it certainly is NOT
4500 ¥ for a Claymore vs 40 (140) for a Sledgehammer !
with the best Dance for your Buck
Medicineman
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It would be 140 ¥, as well as being an Adept with at least 0.25 PP to spend. And you lose out on 1DV, -5AP and 1 reach.
But yes, I should have worded it differently, I yield. :(
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Or just start off with a standard claymore, then after a run or two see about getting your hands on a Highlands... 14F shouldn't be too hard to get early on, then work towards getting it enchanted... remember you can take 7K into the game + pocket money.
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I assume you'd use Combat Axe values for a "normal" Claymore? Because that's the only weapon that I'd consider close enough.
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I assume you'd use Combat Axe values for a "normal" Claymore? Because that's the only weapon that I'd consider close enough.
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huh... I thought there was a standard Claymore in the core book...
whelp...
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Wouldn't the Quarter Staff be a better option than the Sledge for best bang/buck?
It lacks AP but otherwise I find it to be a very good weapon for the cost.