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On Run & Gun page 73 Bull and /dev/grrl are having a dialogue on Jackpoint.
"No, I mean commlink. I keep my ‘deck in my new bag. See? <PIC_LINK>" - /dev/grrl
"A pink cyberdeck holster with unicorns and sparkles? Kill me now." - Bull
Then if you take a look at Data Trails page 73 there is a female in dim lighting who is carrying a cyberdeck holstered by a case with a unicorn and sparkles. The very cool thing is that you can see most of her body but not her face! I thought this was really rewarding to find because I've always had great interest in her.
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Guess someone's got a thing for schoolgirls!
> Seriously, this sounded like a Darrien Cross book.
> /dev/grrl
> Getting a crush, are we?
> Kat o’ Nine Tales
> Didn’t I hear that you wear school uniforms on runs?
> Red
> I imagine Kane will have something to say about this ...
> Turbo Bunny
> Eh. Wood pulp bullets are cheap.
> Kane
Run Faster p.131
But I think you mean p. 63
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Nice find Shadowjack! I love little Easter eggs/ connections like this ;D
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Nice find Shadowjack! I love little Easter eggs/ connections like this ;D
You should have seen teh back and forth over Grimmy teh Grimoire. :D
There're some neat things sprinkled here and there, some of which has payoff, some of which doesn't, and some of which is just neat. I *need* to get off my arse one day off and try to compile info on the new JackPointers (And remind teh writers about which ones are dead ... a couple of us keep using corpses to post, an dthat's no good!) ... Hrm. Gives me an idea. Hmm...
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There're some neat things sprinkled here and there, some of which has payoff, some of which doesn't, and some of which is just neat. I *need* to get off my arse one day off and try to compile info on the new JackPointers (And remind teh writers about which ones are dead ... a couple of us keep using corpses to post, an dthat's no good!) ... Hrm. Gives me an idea. Hmm...
No, you are not bringing the late good Captain back as an CFD personality, cool as that might be.
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Wasn't CC established to be an E-ghost at the end of System Failure, apparently thanks to the Jack_Be_Nimble program? If he got himself fully 'all there' again I couldn't see him not jumping back into the mix!
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On Run & Gun page 73 Bull and /dev/grrl are having a dialogue on Jackpoint.
"No, I mean commlink. I keep my ‘deck in my new bag. See? <PIC_LINK>" - /dev/grrl
"A pink cyberdeck holster with unicorns and sparkles? Kill me now." - Bull
Then if you take a look at Data Trails page 73 there is a female in dim lighting who is carrying a cyberdeck holstered by a case with a unicorn and sparkles. The very cool thing is that you can see most of her body but not her face! I thought this was really rewarding to find because I've always had great interest in her.
Page 63.
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Cap's current status is "Dead ... but nobody's found teh body". The E-Ghost known as The Captain is out there, and some of JackPoint has sniffed around, but what connection, if any, there is to CC and Jack-B-Nimble is, as of yet, unknown.
I'm half-tempted to run a mini-contest on here, to have everybody that isn't a writer datadump everything they know about the current JackPoint crew. I'm curious what you know that we've hinted at, what you DON'T know, and what you guys have figured out but that some of us have missed by not reading every single inch of copy several times. No idea what kind of prize I could give out, but, it'd be *very* interesting to get all of that info together in one thread.
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Not gonna lie, having even a rudimentary "Who's who" on Jackpoint would be fantastic. At least a semi-comprehensive list of who the active posters are. I don't do a lot of fic reading so there are definitely some posters who have seemingly popped out of nowhere for me (re: Balladeer etc)
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That's one of the reasons I started thinking about it. I've been close to asking upstairs to put together a JackPoint PDF, with user icons, info, and so on. Doubt it'd sell, but, by golly, *I'd* read it. :)
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A lot of the regular JackPointers got profiled in the Street Legends sourcebook and the Street Legends Supplemental PDF, not to mention the Ten JackPointers PDF. Well worth reading if you like that sort of thing.
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Got 'em all, but there's always new stuff to keep track of and several that haven't been profiled.
And as noted, we're seeing several new JackPoint members join as some older ones retire or die off. Might be time to get to know a few of 'em...
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I think one of our players once had a pdf "Jackpoint Character List". I'll ask.
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The daughter of the Seattle Yakuza Boss supposedly yanked all kinds of data before returning to her father. A flavor book detailing Jackpointers from her perspective would be pretty good. It could also get rolled into a cash grab sourcebook for syndicates or something, if publishing costs demanded it.
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That's one of the reasons I started thinking about it. I've been close to asking upstairs to put together a JackPoint PDF, with user icons, info, and so on. Doubt it'd sell, but, by golly, *I'd* read it. :)
Sounds like it might make a better PDF product then a print one but I would buy it .
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The daughter of the Seattle Yakuza Boss supposedly yanked all kinds of data before returning to her father. A flavor book detailing Jackpointers from her perspective would be pretty good. It could also get rolled into a cash grab sourcebook for syndicates or something, if publishing costs demanded it.
I was under the impression the Kiku/Keiko did that with Shadowland, not Jackpoint, though I grant you some of the posters are the same.
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The daughter of the Seattle Yakuza Boss supposedly yanked all kinds of data before returning to her father. A flavor book detailing Jackpointers from her perspective would be pretty good. It could also get rolled into a cash grab sourcebook for syndicates or something, if publishing costs demanded it.
I was under the impression the Kiku/Keiko did that with Shadowland, not Jackpoint, though I grant you some of the posters are the same.
10 JackPointers is an assessment done by Horizon, and at least one member (Rigger X) has had their local rep score dinged for selling information about it.
The problem will always lie with the human element. Harlequin "hacked" JackPoint (at least) once using Frosty's account because she forgot to change her password.
Personally, I'd just add a couple one- or two-page profiles in the back of every book like the G.I. Joe comic did with Joes in the 80s.
I'd collect the profiles and stats from the Character Trove section of the campaign books, which include a dozen or two JackPointers since Artifacts Unbound while being short enough to include 5-6 in two pages.
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OBTW, I'd have to check, but I think it was confirmed that this is /dev/grrl, from Seattle 2072.
And this is the deck case Shadowjack was referring to.
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The daughter of the Seattle Yakuza Boss supposedly yanked all kinds of data before returning to her father. A flavor book detailing Jackpointers from her perspective would be pretty good. It could also get rolled into a cash grab sourcebook for syndicates or something, if publishing costs demanded it.
I was under the impression the Kiku/Keiko did that with Shadowland, not Jackpoint, though I grant you some of the posters are the same.
Keiko's betrayal is just the in game explanation for how the data came out. The point is to publish profiles for Jackpointers. It doesn't have to be Keiko specifically, although she still keeps tabs on the Shadows, but the point is that some insider could sell out. It could just as easily be a corporate headhunter's report.
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I think one of our players once had a pdf "Jackpoint Character List". I'll ask.
Do you mean this one maintained by our own FastJack?:
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=58.0 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=58.0)
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The problem will always lie with the human element. Harlequin "hacked" JackPoint (at least) once using Frosty's account because she forgot to change her password.
That was Harley?! I thought Ehran did it.
And this is the deck case Shadowjack was referring to.
Positively ghastly.
I think one of our players once had a pdf "Jackpoint Character List". I'll ask.
Do you mean this one maintained by our own FastJack?:
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=58.0 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=58.0)
No, I was referring to 4E Jackpoint User List:
http://postimg.org/image/x1wbsagn7/
http://postimg.org/image/4vpaadnhd/
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>I can see this veering into whining territory. Do I get to shoot you in the ass now?
>Kane
>And you a married man! I don't think Kat would approve.
>dev/grrl
>I can shoot anyone I want, as long as that's all I do. And don't you have homework, Lil Britches? A field assignment? Something? Surely I didn't give you the weekend off.
>Kane
For all her effort to "prove herself", setting up and maintaining Jackpoint, it sounds as though Kane's days of not taking her seriously have come to a definite middle, as they saying goes.
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On the subject of /Dev/grrl is she still leading the double life of Neo-net school girl by day,shadowrunning hacker by night?
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Yes, though the situation in Boston may force her to go further into the shadows, depending on what needs to be done to deal with that.
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On the subject of /Dev/grrl is she still leading the double life of Neo-net school girl by day,shadowrunning hacker by night?
She graduated high school a while ago. She's training with Kane rather than do college I think. Probably sold it to her parents as "A year of humanitarian work in South America, to help the rainforrest" or something similar. Looks good on teh college resume.
Well.
As long as you leave off the "Running around, stealing ships as a pirate" part. :D
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And this is the deck case Shadowjack was referring to.
Positively ghastly.
Actually, I rather like it: It's appropriate for her, and I think the artist nailed what her case would look like.
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On the subject of /Dev/grrl is she still leading the double life of Neo-net school girl by day,shadowrunning hacker by night?
She graduated high school a while ago. She's training with Kane rather than do college I think. Probably sold it to her parents as "A year of humanitarian work in South America, to help the rainforrest" or something similar. Looks good on teh college resume.
Well.
As long as you leave off the "Running around, stealing ships as a pirate" part. :D
So I guess NetCat and Slam-O! need a new babysitter then?
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So I guess NetCat and Slam-O! need a new babysitter then?
They probably have for a bit, especially since the lockdown happened in Boston; Kane mentioned she's attempted to steal a boat to get in there once, and I imagine he's keeping her on a short leash.
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Ayup. Chrome Flesh has her *not* being happy with the Boston situation. She's outside, after all, and her parents are INside.
Kane's well aware that emotion can make you do stupid things.
Of course, just because she can't *physically* go anywhere, it doesn't mean that a Matrix-based "Mr. Johnson" couldn't hire a Shadowrun team...
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On the subject of /Dev/grrl is she still leading the double life of Neo-net school girl by day,shadowrunning hacker by night?
She graduated high school a while ago. She's training with Kane rather than do college I think. Probably sold it to her parents as "A year of humanitarian work in South America, to help the rainforrest" or something similar. Looks good on teh college resume.
Well.
As long as you leave off the "Running around, stealing ships as a pirate" part. :D
So I guess NetCat and Slam-O! need a new babysitter then?
They can always ask uncle Kane. ;)
...What? He's been doing fine with /dev/ so far.
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On the subject of /Dev/grrl is she still leading the double life of Neo-net school girl by day,shadowrunning hacker by night?
She graduated high school a while ago. She's training with Kane rather than do college I think. Probably sold it to her parents as "A year of humanitarian work in South America, to help the rainforrest" or something similar. Looks good on teh college resume.
Well.
As long as you leave off the "Running around, stealing ships as a pirate" part. :D
So I guess NetCat and Slam-O! need a new babysitter then?
They can always ask uncle Kane. ;)
...What? He's been doing fine with /dev/ so far.
Didn't he once offer and get rejected?
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With what was revealed and not revealed in the Boston lockdown, as well as the other cannon information about CFD and about CC being an E-ghost thanks to the Jack-be-Nimble program that saved him. Officially, wouldn't it be possible for CC, or others working on his behalf, be able to "download" CC into a new body and have him return that way? Not saying it is right or wrong, just debating the possibilities. It also raises questions about the other E-ghosts online and what they really are I suppose.
On the Technical and game mechanic side wise, I wonder if a character would lose essence over something like that, since it would be overwriting the mid of the new "host." Does that kill the new hosts "soul" or essence of being, or is it just really similar to relativistic insanity where your mind just isn't your own anymore... huh..??
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Kane's well aware that emotion can make you do stupid things.
Irony that cold is forbidden in both Tirs.
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That's one of the reasons I started thinking about it. I've been close to asking upstairs to put together a JackPoint PDF, with user icons, info, and so on. Doubt it'd sell, but, by golly, *I'd* read it. :)
I would buy it PDF or Print.
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You guys could always update the wiki (http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki//dev/grrl)...*hint* *hint* *nudge* *nudge* It's open to everyone.
There are already a handful of entries on a few Jackpointers (http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jackpointer), but always need more.
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Check out "Shadowland posters and publications compiled tables" on this site: http://danvolodar.ru/files/SR/
There's a jackpoint user list too.
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So..let's see if I can get some of these right (just pulling them off the top of my head so I'll miss some) ....
Black Mamba and Fatima are dead
Riser is most likely dead unless he nanited someone before he died
Fastjack is MIA
Marcos is alive but down in Amazonia, perhaps with one of the Ghost Cartels
Kay St Irregular is in Denver know watching the political fallout there
Netcat and Slamm-o are shacked up and have the kid; Netcat still has connection with the technomancer movement
Clockwork is still a racist Middle East hobgoblin who hates technomancers and has been working with MCT on occasion
devgirl is hanging with Kane in the Carib, has developed a bit of a gambling habit, and is missing her folks who are stuck in Boston
Kane is married but still the rambunctious pain in the arse he always was
Glitch is still the perfectionist
Pistons is either in Seattle or Denver, used to have "playdates" with devgirl when she was in Seattle, still works with Netcat and Kay on
occasion
Sunshine has been kind of quiet since the stuff in Denver happened, probably searching for another big scoop
Bull is getting old and is instrumental in what is going on in the Ork Underground
Butch is constantly moving her clinic due to her CFD-cure experiment and has some cash from Doc Wagon for study on something else that
she hasn't done yet
Haze is still an ass
Fianchetto is "semi-retired" and old but still keeps his ear to the ground and hangs out with the Grand Tour
Thorn is still spying it up and perchance running a separate "spy/assassin" only site
Ballandeer is an assassin who doesn't kill unless there is payment, also has a beef with OrkCEO
OrkCEO has gone "legit" and runs a bodyguard company, sore with Ballandeer
Winterhawk is "semi-retired" but still doing his studies
Red is an OLD vampire elf who still has actual books and is slightly out-of-sync with the 2070s
Hannibelle is still ghouling it up and doing her thing
Elijah is interested in what is going on up in the Antarctic
Chainmaker is a young British elf that Winterhawk brought on, she's in connection with the Brit streets pretty well
Riot is a young ganger with potential street sammie leanings, is Butch's protégé
Ecotope is extremely quiet lately...probably off destrorying polluters
Aufbensin (spelling) is overseeing the remnants of the Black Star down in Bogota
Hard Exit is still alive but isn't the same since Bogota, fighting depression
Miles Lanier is still on Jackpoint and still fighting his CFD
Plan 9 is still weird but has made some peace with it's multiple CFD personalities
Frosty is working with the Draco Foundation and still keeps track of the dragon and immortal elf affairs
Puck was working with Harlequinn's free spirit darkside in Denver for a time, may now be out searching for Pax's head
KAM is heading up the Genisis Consortium and on the Draco board, probably going into hiding due to Roxy's sneakiness
The Smiling Bandit is still keeping up to date with all the cutting edge stuff
The Chromed Accountant is retired!
2xl is smuggling like gangbusters as is Sounder
Baka Dabora is watching the Japancorps
DangerSensei is apprenticing new runners on occasion
Picador has been cooling her heels since Bogota
Turbo Bunny is trying to stay clean and is hanging with Marionette and is dating Gatekeeper (possible troll)
Traveler Jones is still travelling
Sticks is not sure about Ares but is searching out them bugs
Orbital DK is still space bound
Okay...that's all I can remember off the top of my head...hopefully that's correct...now to wait and see what Wakshaani says....
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Don't forget that Orange Queen just got an invite to Jackpoint!
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Don't forget that Orange Queen just got an invite to Jackpoint!
Did she? I thought she hacked her way in because Bull said he wasn't going to invite her but Slamm-o! wanted her on...
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In the Renraku section of Market Panic, Slamm-O! asks Bull if he still has the contact info, and that they should send an invite. Glitch says she probably doesn't have time to be bothered by Slamm-O! And OC says people might be surprised. But since there's already the likes of Miles Lanier on the board, I can see Bull dropping an invite to Hestaby. Not only because it would be a good gag to pull on Slamm-O! (Be careful what you wish for), but also because a great dragon on the outs of dragon society and having lost the better part of her hoard just might be someone the shadow community really ought to keep in touch with. She wouldn't be the first dragon to run the shadows, after all.
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Perhaps a tie in with the Deep Resonance novel where Slamm-O! has taken a job from Hestaby and she is shown to be reaching out the to TMs as well?
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More like manipulating the TM situation for her own ends, as she desperately needs new assets. Remember "Never deal with a Dragon", at least unless you are ready to accept the consequences ;).
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Actually, Rosa, Hestaby has a history of taking in TMs, so it isn't out of character for her to be reaching out to them now.
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All right, went through a book or two (mainly Market Panic) to fill out the rest of the 'Pointers that I missed earlier...
Mika and Ma'Fan are still thieving their ways around the world and still not happy with each other
Rigger X is still wanted by MCT and will still stab you in the back for no real reason
Kia is still working as a fixer over in Asia
Goat Foot is still a hajib-wearing Middle Eastern satyr who works as an information broker
Am-mut has been very quiet lately, though I'm guessing he's still serving as a fence
Mihoshi Oni is still running around serving as a troll sized bodyguard abd keeping up her contacts with the Yaks
Icarus is hanging out in lower orbit working for NeoNET and worrying about what will happen
Mr. Bonds is still a member of Brockrage X
Stone works as a merc/gun-for-hire and enjoys the boom-boom he gets to use
Dr Spin is still spinning things for folks and keeping up with all the sneak stuff the corps do
Arete is high up in the Seers Guild and is still having flashes of the future in his dreams
Man-of-Many-Names is still about, tossing out slight bits of info on everything magical, though lately it's been less...veiled
Snopes still demands proof before he believes any conspiracy or odd occurance
Axis Mundi is still about, makign buddy-buddy with the spirit world
Nephrine occassionally pops in to say a few things but that's about it, or so it seems
Kat o' Nine is still living fast and sexy as a world-trotting rocker/runner
Cosmos sees things from a farther out position and has kind of become the Azzie watcher
Cayman pops in occassionally to give his two cents when he's not off running as a gun-for-hire
Red Anya si still the best to go to for Russian info and cheap ordinance in that section of the world
Lyran is still a talismongerer and Wolf shaman
Sekretar has shown up only one but seems to be an idealist
Beaker is still mixing those chemicals and kicking those bigots
M'halo has appeared once but seems unimpressed by Ryumyo the dragon
Sir Icelot has shown up once...and that's all I got
Chiller is young and shown up once or twice but doesn't know a lot about the corps it seems
SeaTac Sweetie is still the premier escort in Seattle
I probably have missed a few...when I get some extra time I'll really hit the rest of the books and see what I missed...
Actually, Rosa, Hestaby has a history of taking in TMs, so it isn't out of character for her to be reaching out to them now.
Very true! In the Shasta Lodge she had a whole tribe of TMs and otaku..in fact, if memory serves me right, Llofwyr swiped Hestaby's lead TM from there and never returned him....
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So..let's see if I can get some of these right (just pulling them off the top of my head so I'll miss some) ....
Okay...that's all I can remember off the top of my head...hopefully that's correct...now to wait and see what Wakshaani says....
Interesting notations! A bit wrong here or there, but generally on point. Seeing what sticks in peoples' heads and what doesn't helps with Things.
Mind you, if they'd let me, I'd write an entire book of nothing but Shadowtalk, so. :)
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So..let's see if I can get some of these right (just pulling them off the top of my head so I'll miss some) ....
Okay...that's all I can remember off the top of my head...hopefully that's correct...now to wait and see what Wakshaani says....
Interesting notations! A bit wrong here or there, but generally on point. Seeing what sticks in peoples' heads and what doesn't helps with Things.
Mind you, if they'd let me, I'd write an entire book of nothing but Shadowtalk, so. :)
I'm a bit amazed that I'm on point on any of the stuff really....been so engrossed in getting my own stuff together I haven't had a lot of time to commit to memory most of what the Jackpointers are up to lately. Need to though, so I can make sure the shadowtalk is right in my pitch....I do wonder which I got wrong though....and would pay to read a Shadowtalk only book. As for the notations, I was just looking at what I could cram into a short witty sentence or two...they read easier that way.
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Well, it might not be ALL Shadowtalk, but if you could get them to swing an update to Attitude, Loose Alliances, or Threats, that'd be awesome...
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ATTITUDE and THREATS!! SPecially Threats...we need to know what new evil is lurking out there!!!!
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Don't underestimate Loose Alliances, though. Just having a book with all sorts of organizations in different fields is a huge boon for people looking for potential plot hooks, or making runs for/against groups that aren't just yet another corp, syndicate, or politician.
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Yeah i know Hestaby did all that, just never really bought into the whole "oh i'm just doing all this out of the goodness of my heart" stick. I had a problem with her suddenly going from obscurity to the "New" Dunkelzahn, but that's just my opinion.
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Not quite obscurity. She'd been active in Tir Tairngir for a while. As for the 'new Dunkelzahn', that was a clear angle she took, and it helped that none of the other great dragons were remotely interested in being the 'bridge' between dragons and the young races. Oh sure, Hestaby has her plots and plans, but then so did Big D (just look at that will). So no, not 'goodness of her heart', but she took things to a much higher level during the dragon civil war than she needed to if she didn't believe what she was doing was the right thing.
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And before the Tir she was hanging out in the Calfree. She was the dragon that helped those in Reading repulse the TIr army.