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Title: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-14-15/1557:20>
Character is a 800 karma build character designed as a jack of all trades master of none.  Plan on using my spells heavily to buff myself to decent levels.  Playing tonight, so thoughts?

Back-up
METATYPE: HUMAN
B 3, A 4, R 2/5, S 2, W 5, L 4, I 6, C 4, ESS 6, EDG 5, M 6
Condition Monitor (P/S): 10 / 11
Armor: 15
Limits: Physical 5, Mental 7, Social 7
Physical Initiative: 8/11+4D6
Active Skills: Automatics (Submachine Guns +2) 1, Blades (Swords +2) 2, Computer (Matrix Perception +2) 2, Cracking Group 4, Influence Group 4, Spellcasting (Health Spells +2) 6
Knowledge Skills: Mystic theroy 4, Myths & Legends 2, Security 4, Small Unit Tactics 6
Languages: English N, Japanese 4
Qualities: Big Regret, Buddhist Mystic Adept, Code of Honor: The Path of the Samurai (9dicepool vs. 4), Driven: Clear Name (9dicepool (4)), Focused Concentration (4), Jack of All Trades, Master of None, Mentor Spirit: Magician Powers: Bear, Magician Powers, Records on File (1): Shiawase, Reduced (taste)
Spells: Heal, Increase Agility, Increase Charisma, Increase Logic, Stunbolt
Adept Powers: Astral Perception, Combat Sense (1), Improved Potential: Physical Limit, Improved Reflexes (3), Rapid Draw
Gear:
. . Armor Jacket
. . Forearm Guards w/ AR Gloves
. . . . Novatech NetNinja w/ Attack Dongle (3)
. . Glasses (1) w/ Image Link
. . Helmet
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Magic (1), Fake License: Matrix Security  (1), Fake License: Weapon (1), Fake SIN (1), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Meta Link
. . Novatech NetNinja w/ Attack Dongle (3)
Weapons:
. . Cavalier Arms Gladius [SMG, Acc 4, DV 7S, AP +1, BF/FA, RC 1(2), 32 (c)] w/ Folding Stock, (30x) Gel Rounds, Laser Sight
. . Survival Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 4P, AP -1]
Contacts:
Dan the Ghoul (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Dodger (Connection 1, Loyalty 2)
Officer Robert "Tusks" Jones (Connection 2, Loyalty 1)
Starting ¥: 2D6 × 40¥

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Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: Glyph on <11-14-15/1631:51>
A Jack of all trades character really works best for support skills.  Things like ranged/melee combat, social skills, and decking are things that you want a high dice pool for.
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: gradivus on <11-14-15/1812:16>
That's a decent chunk of Karma to get just 8 dice in the influence group.

Unless you're the only mage, I'd drop astral perception and improved potential for 2 ranks of authoritative tone and 2 ranks kinesics while dropping CHA to 3 and improving STR to 3. So you'll have+3(CHA), +4(Influence Group) +2 (authoritative tone\kinesics depending on whether you are initiating or the other guy initiated the social opposed roll) for a +9 versus the +8 you have now. And with the 1 increase in STR your physical limit doesn't change though your social limit drops by 1 (even with CHA increased by +4 with the spell, 13 dice usually only produce 4-5 hits) This also frees up 5 Karma that I'd use to get a better fake ID.

Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-15-15/0016:35>
Thanks for the ideas.  Unfortunately it is to late, ran the first session tonight so character is now locked.  I worked tonight primarily as a Face and did fine.  Did the negotiation with Mr J, infiltrated the facility as a "Security Consultant", and did a bit of finding gear before the run,  Overall a successful run that actually stayed on plan.  NO casualties on either side (we actually went out of our way to save some lives...admittedly we had KO'd them and blew up the building they were in, but we made sure they got out first...)

At the end I have 12k nuyen and 6 Karma now to spend,,,
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on <11-15-15/1913:10>
Why are you using a cavalier gladius? That is one of the worst SMGs. Granted GH3 had a lot of crapy weapons in it, but some really good ones as well, and one that needed an errata (and got one).
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: Whiskeyjack on <11-15-15/2013:08>
Unfortunately it is to late, ran the first session tonight so character is now locked.
Maybe ask for a chance to make revisions.
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-15-15/2219:30>
I chose the gun for the damage 8, and cheap price,  I intend to upgrade in the near future. I actually originally had a Machine Pistol but decided to go with a SMG because of the Specialization

I could probably get the rewrite but he worked really well in the game, mostly as a Face for that matter so don't think it will be needed (and I have a bad rep for revising characters so would rather not)

I used are seed money to buy decent contacts (Image link, ThermoVision, Low light Vision). 

Bought six skills with karma (Sneaking, Palming, Assensing, Perception, Hardware, and Demolitions)

Upgraded my Comlink to include Sleeze 2.  Also got a sword, Hardware Kit, some ammo, sling, Gunlight, spare clips, and a credstick.  Here are the current stats

Back-up
METATYPE: HUMAN
B 3, A 4, R 2/5, S 2, W 5, L 4, I 6, C 4, ESS 6, EDG 5, M 6
Condition Monitor (P/S): 10 / 11
Armor: 15
Limits: Physical 5, Mental 7, Social 7
Physical Initiative: 8/11+4D6
Active Skills: Assensing 1, Automatics (Submachine Guns +2) 1, Blades (Swords +2) 2, Computer (Matrix Perception +2) 2, Cracking Group 4, Demolitions 1, Hardware 1, Influence Group 4, Palming 1, Perception 1, Sneaking 1, Spellcasting (Health Spells +2) 6
Knowledge Skills: Mystic theroy 4, Myths & Legends 2, Security 4, Small Unit Tactics 6
Languages: English N, Japanese 4
Qualities: Big Regret, Buddhist Mystic Adept, Code of Honor: The Path of the Samurai (9dicepool vs. 4), Driven: Clear Name (9dicepool (4)), Focused Concentration (4), Jack of All Trades, Master of None, Mentor Spirit: Magician Powers: Bear, Magician Powers, Records on File (1): Shiawase, Reduced (taste)
Spells: Heal, Increase Agility, Increase Charisma, Increase Logic, Stunbolt
Adept Powers: Astral Perception, Combat Sense (1), Improved Potential: Physical Limit, Improved Reflexes (3), Rapid Draw
Gear:
. . Armor Jacket
. . Asian Caligraphy set
. . Backpack
. . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . Contacts (3) w/ Image Link, Low Light Vision, Thermographic Vision
. . Electronic Parts
. . Forearm Guards w/ AR Gloves
. . . . Novatech NetNinja w/ Add a Sleaze Attribute, Attack Dongle (3), Datasoft: Samurai Legends, Increase a Matrix Attribute: Sleaze, Mapsoft: Seattle
. . Helmet
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Magic (1), Fake License: Matrix Security  (1), Fake License: Weapon (1), Fake SIN (1), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Meta Link
. . Mid Life Style "Kimono Suit"
. . Novatech NetNinja w/ Add a Sleaze Attribute, Attack Dongle (3), Datasoft: Samurai Legends, Increase a Matrix Attribute: Sleaze, Mapsoft: Seattle
. . Tool Kit, Hardware
Weapons:
. . Cavalier Arms Gladius [SMG, Acc 4, DV 7S, AP +1, BF/FA, RC 1(2), 32 (c)] w/ (30x) Explosive Rounds, Flashlight, Thermographic, Folding Stock, (30x) Gel Rounds, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Sling, (2x) Spare Clips
. . Survival Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 4P, AP -1]
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 6, DV 5P, AP -2]
Contacts:
Dan the Ghoul (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Dodger (Connection 1, Loyalty 2)
Officer Robert "Tusks" Jones (Connection 2, Loyalty 1)

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Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-28-15/1538:59>
Second Session tonight.  GM said I could only take two skills So chose Summoning and Hardware.  I messed with gear as well, but should be ready to go.  Let see if he can go two sessions without sneaking or perception  8)
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-29-15/0040:23>
Things went well, was a rescue op from Halloweeners of an Evo employee, 

Served as a bit of everything tonight except Decking (Combat heavy night, so Faced the meets, then fought like hell, Summoned spirit and healing spells).  Used 4 Edge and GOT EXTREMLY LUCKY on one opposition roll (Even with edge I bombed the roll but the GM Bombed his worse)

I did get into debt with the mafia for 5k but was also able to buy a sustaining foci (So now can have 2 buffs running simultaniusly).  Spent Karma on that and Sneaking & Perception. 
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: gradivus on <11-29-15/0216:40>
I would have not bought any skills and saved for initiation.
But that's just me.
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-29-15/0909:56>
I'm just not that into Initiation on this guy.  That seems like something I should reserve for our combat Mage (I have no intention of going to Magic 7, only meta magic I see for him is more adept powers...)
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: gradivus on <11-29-15/1400:26>
Even if you never improve MR, Masking and Adept Centering are useful for any awakened character.

But like I'll tell anyone who asks...I'd rather play a character I want to play and not the 'optimized' sharacter other people think is best.

So I was just speaking about my personal preference, not what you should do.

I once created an cyber-adept that had just 1 in both Maximum Magic and Magic Rating... would most people do that? No, but I had fun. And even though he wasn't optimal he still pulled his weight.
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-29-15/1533:09>
Agreed.   My main goal is to be all over with this guy.  I have 10-12 more skills I want for him still  and raise his strength and a couple spells.  about 35 more karma or 6-7 more runs.
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <11-29-15/2317:52>
Back-up
METATYPE: HUMAN
B 3, A 4, R 2/5, S 2, W 5, L 4, I 6, C 4, ESS 6, EDG 5, M 6
Condition Monitor (P/S): 10 / 11
Armor: 15
Limits: Physical 4, Mental 7, Social 7
Physical Initiative: 8/11+4D6
Matrix Initiative: 11+3D6
Active Skills: Automatics (Submachine Guns +2) 1, Blades (Swords +2) 2, Computer (Matrix Perception +2) 2, Cracking Group 4, Hardware 1, Influence Group 4, Palming 1, Software 1, Spellcasting (Health Spells +2) 6, Summoning 1
Knowledge Skills: Mystic theroy 4, Myths & Legends 2, Security 4, Small Unit Tactics 6
Languages: English N, Japanese 4
Qualities: Big Regret, Buddhist Mystic Adept, Code of Honor: The Path of the Samurai (9dicepool vs. 4), Driven: Clear Name (9dicepool (4)), Focused Concentration (4), In Debt (Borrowed 5,000¥, Owes 7,500¥) (1), Jack of All Trades, Master of None, Mentor Spirit: Magician Powers: Bear, Magician Powers, Records on File (1): Shiawase, Reduced (taste)
Spells: Heal, Increase Agility, Increase Charisma, Increase Logic, Stunbolt
Adept Powers: Astral Perception, Combat Sense (1), Improved Reflexes (3), Natural Immunity (2), Rapid Draw
Gear:
. . Armor Jacket
. . Armor Vest
. . Asian Caligraphy set
. . Backpack
. . Ballistic Mask (Customized) w/ Flare Compensation, Respirator (5), Smartlink, Vision Magnification, Electronic
. . Certified Credstick, Silver
. . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . Contacts (3) w/ Image Link, Low Light Vision, Thermographic Vision
. . Data Tap
. . Datachip x10
. . Flashlight, Low-Light
. . Forearm Guards w/ AR Gloves
. . . . Novatech NetNinja w/ Add a Sleaze Attribute, Attack Dongle (3), Datasoft: Samurai Lit, Mapsoft: Seattle
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Decker (1), Fake License: Magic (1), Fake License: Weapon (1), Fake SIN (1), (1 month) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Magical Lodge Materials (1)
. . Meta Link
. . Metal Restraints
. . Micro-Tranceiver
. . Mid Life Style "Kimono Suit"
. . Novatech NetNinja w/ Add a Sleaze Attribute, Attack Dongle (3), Datasoft: Samurai Lit, Mapsoft: Seattle
. . Plastic Restraints x10
. . Reagents, Raw (dram): Buddhism x10
. . Renraku Aguchi
. . Stealth Tags x7
. . Stim Patch (6) x2
. . Survival Kit
. . Sustaining Focus: Health Spells (4)
. . Tag Eraser
. . Tool Kit, Hardware
. . Trauma Patch
. . Trodes w/ Sim Module, Modified for Hot Sim
Weapons:
. . Cavalier Arms Gladius [SMG, Acc 4, DV 7P, AP –, BF/FA, RC 1(2), 32 (c)] w/ (21x) APDS, (30x) Explosive Rounds, Flashlight, Thermographic, Folding Stock, (30x) Gel Rounds, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Sling, (3x) Spare Clips
. . Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 3P, AP -1]
. . Survival Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 4P, AP -1]
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 6, DV 5P, AP -2]
Contacts:
Dan the Ghoul (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Dodger (Connection 1, Loyalty 2)
Dr Rickets (Connection 4, Loyalty 1)
Officer Robert "Tusks" Jones (Connection 2, Loyalty 1)

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Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <06-11-17/2258:24>
I realize that it has been over a year.  Back Up is doing fine, he is sitting at 110 karma, has made a good amount of nuyen.  He has found a niche that he was not designed for as a force multiplier (Technomancer before you go in, take some logic with you, Face you need some agility for this fight).  I have picked up a sustaining foci and a Little Hornet deck. 

Due to a near total TPK (me and the first session ran Rigger are the only survivors of a 5 man team) my character is the only one still using Karma build.  The GM has asked that I revise him using Standard Build...

But he has done well for himself..
Title: Re: Backup review
Post by: JmOz01 on <06-12-17/1743:39>
I decided to stay with the Karma build, so here he is with his 110 karma and the ~145K nuyen

Back-up
METATYPE: HUMAN
B 3, A 4, R 2/5, S 3, W 5, L 4, I 6, C 4, ESS 6, EDG 5, M 6

Condition Monitor (P/S): 10 / 11
Armor: 14
Limits: Physical 5, Mental 7, Social 7
Physical Initiative: 8/11+4D6
Matrix Initiative: 7+3D6

Active Skills: Arcana 1, Artisan 1, Assensing 1, Automatics (Submachine Guns +2) 4, Automotive Mechanic 1, Blades (Swords +2) 2, Clubs 1, Computer (Matrix Perception +2) 4, Con 1, Cracking Group 4, Gymnastics 1, Hardware 1, Influence Group 4, Palming 1, Perception 1, Pilot Ground Craft 1, Pistols 1, Running 1, Sneaking 2, Software 1, Spellcasting (Health Spells +2) 6, Summoning (Spirits of Air +2) 4, Unarmed Combat 1
Knowledge Skills: Mystic theroy 4, Myths & Legends 2, Security 4, Small Unit Tactics 6
Languages: English N, Japanese 4

Qualities: Big Regret, Buddhist Mystic Adept, Code of Honor: The Path of the Samurai (9dicepool vs. 4), Driven: Clear Name (9dicepool (4)), Focused Concentration (4), Jack of All Trades, Master of None, Mentor Spirit: Magician Powers: Bear, Magician Powers, Records on File (1): Shiawase, Reduced (taste)
Spells: Heal, Increase Agility, Increase Body, Increase Charisma, Increase Logic, Increase Strength, Magic Fingers, Stunbolt
Adept Powers: Astral Perception, Combat Sense (1), Improved Reflexes (3), Natural Immunity (2), Rapid Draw

Vehicles:
. . Harley-Davidson Scorpion [Handling 4/3, Speed 4, Accel 2, Body 8, Armor 9, Pilot 1, Sensor 2, Seats 1]
. . . . Gear:
. . . . . . Anti-Theft System (3)
. . . . . . Asian Caligraphy set
. . . . . . Certified Credstick, Standard
. . . . . . Linguistics: English (local language)
. . . . . . Linguistics: Japanese (Manufacturer's Language)
. . . . . . Manual Control Override
. . . . . . Metahuman Adjustment: Troll
. . . . . . Morphing license plate
. . . . . . Renraku Aguchi
. . . . . . Run Flat Tires x2
. . . . . . Smuggling Compartment
. . . . . . Spoof chip
. . . . . . Tag Eraser
. . . . . . Tool Kit, Automotive Mechanic
. . . . Weapons:
. . . . . . Cavalier Arms Gladius [SMG, Acc 3, DV 8P, AP -1, BF/FA, RC 1(2), 32 (c)] w/ (30x) APDS, (30x) Explosive Rounds, Flashlight, Thermographic, Folding Stock, (30x) Gel Rounds, Laser Sight, (30x) Regular Ammo, Sling, (3x) Spare Clips
. . . . . . Survival Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 2P, AP -1]

Gear:
. . Ace of Swords w/ Holster (Scabbard)
. . Armor Jacket
. . Armor Vest
. . Backpack
. . Ballistic Mask (Customized) w/ Flare Compensation, Respirator (5), Smartlink, Vision Magnification, Electronic
. . Certified Credstick, Silver
. . Contacts (3) w/ Image Link, Low Light Vision, Thermographic Vision
. . Data Tap
. . Datachip x4
. . Datachip x5
. . Flashlight, Low-Light
. . Hidden Gun Arm Slide
. . Human Finger
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Decker (1), Fake License: Magic (1), Fake License: Weapon (1), Fake SIN (1)
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Concealed Weapon (6), Fake License: Magic (6), Fake License: Matrix (6), Fake License: Weapons (6), Fake SIN (6), (0 months) Squatter Lifestyle
. . Identity: Specify Name w/ Fake License: Concealed Weapon (4), Fake License: Magic (4), Fake License: Matrixx Security (4), Fake License:
Weapon (4), Fake SIN (4)
. . Little Hornet w/ Sim Module, Modified for Hot Sim
. . Magical Lodge Materials (1)
. . Medkit (3)
. . Medkit (6)
. . Metal Restraints
. . Micro-camera w/ Vision Magnification, Electronic
. . Micro-Tranceiver
. . Mid Life Style "Kimono Suit"
. . Plastic Restraints x10
. . Reagents, Raw (dram): Buddhism x10
. . Renraku Aguchi
. . Spell Formula: Body: Increase [Attribute]
. . Spell Formula: Magic Fingers
. . Spell Formula: Mind Probe
. . Spell Formula: Strength: Increase [Attribute]
. . Spell Formula: Trid Phantasm
. . Stealth Tags x2
. . Stealth Tags x5
. . Stim Patch (6) x2
. . Survival Kit
. . Sustaining Focus: Health Spells (4)
. . Tool Kit, Hardware
. . Trauma Patch
. . Trodes w/ Sim Module, Modified for Hot Sim

Weapons:
. . AK-97 [Assault Rifle, Acc 7, DV 10P, AP -2, SA/BF/FA, RC 2, 38 (c)] w/ Gas-Vent System (2), (76x) Regular Ammo, Smartgun System, Internal, Spare Clips
. . Colt Agent Special [Light Pistol, Acc 8, DV 6S(e), AP -5, SA, 8 (c)] w/ Personalized Grip, Smartgun System, Internal, (8x) Stick-n-Shock
. . Ingram Smartgun X [SMG, Acc 7, DV 9P, AP -1, BF/FA, RC 2(3), 32 (c)] w/ (20x) Explosive Rounds, Folding Stock, Gas-Vent System (2), Personalized Grip, (32x) Regular Ammo, Silencer/Suppressor, Smartgun System, Internal, (2x) Spare Clips, (32x) Stick-n-Shock
. . Katana Weapon Focus (1) [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 8, DV 6P, AP -3] w/ Custom Look, Personalized Grip, Weapon Focus (1)
. . Knife [Blade, Acc 5, DV 4P, AP -1]
. . Survival Knife [Blade, Acc 6, DV 5P, AP -1] w/ Custom Look, Personalized Grip
. . Sword [Blade,Blade, Reach 1, Acc 7, DV 6P, AP -2] w/ Custom Look, Personalized Grip

Contacts:
Adeooke (Connection 5, Loyalty 2)
Dan the Ghoul (Connection 4, Loyalty 2)
Dodger (Connection 1, Loyalty 2)
Dr Rickets (Connection 4, Loyalty 1)
Frosty (Connection 5, Loyalty 1)
Innocent Dobiri (Connection 2, Loyalty 1)
Kayan (Connection 5, Loyalty 1)
Officer Robert "Tusks" Jones (Connection 2, Loyalty 1)
Osayi ive (Connection 4, Loyalty 1)

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