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Title: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: farfromnice on <01-30-16/2212:16>
In Run&Gun p.33 you could read that the Savalette Guardian could only shoot in burst fire at the expance of a complexe action

that pretty absurd to have this feature when every Pistol with Semi-Automatic capability is able to do a Semi-Auto Burst at the expance of a Complexe action for the same effect

so what's the point in buying a Savalette Guardian other than brand recognition ?
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: Novocrane on <01-30-16/2224:01>
Pre-errata? Long Bursts and a better understanding of fire modes.

Post-errata? Burst Fire.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: farfromnice on <01-30-16/2341:47>
I'm not sure to undertand your question ... was it a question ?
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: Achsin on <01-31-16/0000:39>
Prior to the errata that was released for Run and Gun, the benefit of the Complex Action BF mode was being able to use a Long Burst (which requires a weapon with BF mode and a Complex Action).

After the errata was released, the Complex action requirement was removed from the weapon.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: ScytheKnight on <01-31-16/0449:50>
It was one of the many copy paste issues from 4th.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on <01-31-16/1514:26>
Finchette (Sp) Executive Action was also fixed in that errata.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: farfromnice on <01-31-16/1622:52>
So if I Understand you well

The Savalette Guardian now have the Burst Fire for Complexe action Option

but the pistol with SA don't

right ?
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: PiXeL01 on <01-31-16/1636:00>
No, it has normal burst fire, meaning it can do it on a simple action
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: adzling on <02-01-16/1106:37>
it can fire both a 3 round and 6 round burst.

Semi-auto weapons can only fire a 3 round burst.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: farfromnice on <02-01-16/1417:20>
many thanks to you all
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: ScytheKnight on <02-02-16/0221:06>
SS Pistols fire one round only as a simple action and resets recoil before their next shot.

SA Pistols fire one round as a simple action, or three rounds as a complex action. Recoil builds until reset with a non-attack acction.

SA/BF Pistols act the same as SA pistols in SA mode. In BF mode they fire three rounds as a simple action, or six rounds as a complex action. Recoils builds until reset with a non-attack action.

Helps sometimes in this game to have things spelled out plainely,
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: Senko on <02-03-16/0336:35>
And the guardian is a SA/BF pisotl?
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: PiXeL01 on <02-03-16/0344:14>
That, the Executive Action light pistol and probably a few more
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: Carmody on <02-03-16/0758:28>
The errata does not say that the Savalette Guardian and the Fichetti Executive are SA/BF weapons, it says that they can fire burst with a simple action.
Say otherwise, they can fire 1 or 3 rounds with a simple action, but they still cannot fire 6 rounds with a complex action as they are not real BF weapons.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the Savalette Guardian
Post by: PiXeL01 on <02-03-16/0814:32>
Look at their modes. It says SA/BF doesn't it?