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Does anyone of you have a good map of Seattle (and other Sprawl)
with district and other funny things
I could use it
many thanks
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Although it was made for fourth edition, I'd recommend the Seattle 2072 book. It has a map of Seattle and its relation to surrounding territories, and an even larger map that shows the districts of the sprawl. It also goes into gangs of Seattle, and talks about what kind of stuff is in each neighborhood.
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How about this:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?dg=feature&msa=0&mid=z28vichMQt0o.kI7SO4xFzjck
http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on
http://www.chinagreenelvis.com/gaming/tools/shadowrun/map/
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IMO, the best ones out there:
Pacific Northwest (http://www.fexes.de/downloads/SR2050_Pacific_Northwest_(lowres).pdf) -- around 6 megs
Seattle (http://www.fexes.de/downloads/SR2050_Seattle_Districts_(lowres).pdf) -- big, almost 19 megs
Downtown (http://www.fexes.de/downloads/SR2050_Seattle_Downtown_(lowres).pdf) -- just one meg
They are very, very detailed - primo stuff.
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Thanks ! WoW !
it will be really helpful
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Although it was made for fourth edition, I'd recommend the Seattle 2072 book. It has a map of Seattle and its relation to surrounding territories, and an even larger map that shows the districts of the sprawl. It also goes into gangs of Seattle, and talks about what kind of stuff is in each neighborhood.
this is indeed a very good book. And it is mostly fluff, so a lot can still be used for 5th edition, maybe with some adaptations if you keep to the current timeline (which is what, 6 years in the future).
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Although it was made for fourth edition, I'd recommend the Seattle 2072 book. It has a map of Seattle and its relation to surrounding territories, and an even larger map that shows the districts of the sprawl. It also goes into gangs of Seattle, and talks about what kind of stuff is in each neighborhood.
this is indeed a very good book. And it is mostly fluff, so a lot can still be used for 5th edition, maybe with some adaptations if you keep to the current timeline (which is what, 6 years in the future).
Seattle '72 is still about 90% related to 5e. Only small changes (mostly political) have happened in the last 5 years.
Its not like the city got reworked in those years :P and the few rules/systems in the nook can be converted to 5e with little fuss.
Its a good read to get a handle on the dynamics of a SR megaplex.
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I'd love to get Seattle 2072 in a dead trees version -- for that sort of book I always find an actual book easier to use. Sadly it now shows up on Amazon starting at over $70 ($US, up around $100 by the time I convert to $Canadian). I just don't see dropping that much for a game supplement, so unless I get lucky and find it at a better price in a game store somewhere while travelling .... looks like PDF or nothing.
Any comments on how well the maps and layout for this one work for you in pdf?
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Beta, are you asking about Seattle 2072 in hardback vs. PDF?
I have both and use both. I like the PDF for being easily searchable, so if I need to find every reference to the Finnegan family it's easy to do so. The maps aren't extensive - just high-level district maps - but they're decent. You can get all the same information from the maps that fans have put together, like the ones FasterN8 posted. I especially like this one (http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on) because it includes the old Lone Star security ratings from the Seattle Sourcebook. (I usually handwave it that Knight-Errant treats things the same way, unless I have reason to believe otherwise.)
And to Reaver's point, I would say that Seattle 2072 is 99% compatible with 5E. I suppose it should include the Ork Underground as a separate district now, but the vast majority of the rest is still applicable.
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I'd love to get Seattle 2072 in a dead trees version -- for that sort of book I always find an actual book easier to use. Sadly it now shows up on Amazon starting at over $70 ($US, up around $100 by the time I convert to $Canadian). I just don't see dropping that much for a game supplement, so unless I get lucky and find it at a better price in a game store somewhere while travelling .... looks like PDF or nothing.
Any comments on how well the maps and layout for this one work for you in pdf?
Try your local gaming store.
Us Canucks usually get screwed with online purchases.
I was able to get the book for $48cdn from my local store when it originally came out.
(And if you don't have a local store and are in Western Canada, drop me a PM and I will hook you up with MY game store: they ship all around Canada)
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I'd love to get Seattle 2072 in a dead trees version -- for that sort of book I always find an actual book easier to use. Sadly it now shows up on Amazon starting at over $70 ($US, up around $100 by the time I convert to $Canadian). I just don't see dropping that much for a game supplement, so unless I get lucky and find it at a better price in a game store somewhere while travelling .... looks like PDF or nothing.
Any comments on how well the maps and layout for this one work for you in pdf?
Try your local gaming store.
Us Canucks usually get screwed with online purchases.
I was able to get the book for $48cdn from my local store when it originally came out.
(And if you don't have a local store and are in Western Canada, drop me a PM and I will hook you up with MY game store: they ship all around Canada)
I’m in Ontario (don’t hate!). I have a local store that has incredible amounts of old material for all sorts of gaming systems …. Except for SR. All I can think of is that someone was a late convert to the game and cleared out all their 4th edition stock once they weren’t getting any more in? We’re hoping to take a few road trips this Summer, and I like checking out gaming stores in other cities, so I’ll keep my fingers crossed that I’ll stumble on a treasure trove of books elsewhere.
I’m still working from the original Seattle sourcebook (in my 20+ year hiatus from the game, for some reason I kept that and Sprawl sites along with the never used 2nd edition rules – I’m glad I did as it was my teenager finding those and thinking they looked cool that pulled me back into the game). It gives me something to work from, so lowers the urgency of getting the 2072 update to “I’d really like it” from “I need this to help my game make sense.” I just hope that when I do get my paws on the 2072 update that I don’t find Black’s junkyard has disappeared – bizarrely it has become the source of one of the long running plot arcs in my game.
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hate me
I was lucky enough to have a store who sold all the SR book it was unable to sold at a discount
so I bought all the the book not hard cover at 15$ or 20$ canadian dollar
:P
(Donjon at Québec City)
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Hate? No.
Envy? Yes.
Strike Quebec City off my list of road trip destinations, since it has already been cleared out? Yes :p
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Sometimes you get lucky that way. A friend of mine was able to get the all Spycraft books for 2 euro/hardcover and 1 euro/softcover. About 20 books in total I think. And I managed to get my hands on a mage book and some Alternity books (out of print for quite some time) that go for very much on ebay, just sitting at the back shelf of a local store.
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well remember with places like E-bay:
What they ask, is not what they get :P
Too many times I have seen crap on E-bay for stooopid prices, only to have the auction expire and no one bought the item.
one dumb schmuck listed the same item 5 times at the same price and got NO offers every time. Then he put it up a month later for a reasonable price and sold it.
And Beta, why would I hate on you for living in Ontario?
You Ontarians hate yourselves enough as it is!
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Black Junk Yards gets a paragraph in Seattle 2072, plus two Shadowtalk comments that are also small paragraphs. The content isn't drastically different from what is in the Seattle Sourcebook, although one of the Shadowtalk comments adds some details about Black's security. The junk yard made an appearance in one of my games a year or two ago.
For the record, I like Seattle 2072 and I don't regret buying it, but Seattle Sourcebook is my true love. That's probably nostalgia from 23 years ago talking though.
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Black Junk Yards gets a paragraph in Seattle 2072, plus two Shadowtalk comments that are also small paragraphs. The content isn't drastically different from what is in the Seattle Sourcebook, although one of the Shadowtalk comments adds some details about Black's security. The junk yard made an appearance in one of my games a year or two ago.
For the record, I like Seattle 2072 and I don't regret buying it, but Seattle Sourcebook is my true love. That's probably nostalgia from 23 years ago talking though.
Re-read it ;)
Some parts you just shake your head at :P But that's its age showing through. It really was a good book.
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I'm from Seattle so I'm terribly biased.
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Looks like the German version of the Seattle Sprawl box will get a totally different map-poster (http://www.shadowrun5.de/neues/nachrichtenansicht/news/vorschau-die-karten-der-seattle-box/?tx_news_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=News&tx_news_pi1%5Baction%5D=detail&cHash=f3946f8cf9cb4a7bf8259cebc37ebf49).
As preview, there's a large version (https://sirdoomsbadcompany.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/seattle-karte-distrikte-paznwdowntown-promo.jpg) for download.
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My goodness, that is lovely!!
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Wait, a somewhat useful map of the Seattle Sprawl? Stop the presses, that isn’t allowed! :p
Seriously, although I kind of like the poster in the English Box set, I’d pay for a physical copy of that German map. I don’t even care about the language issues, it would still be better than anything I have (granted I only have the 1st and 5th edition Seattle supplements, maybe somewhere in the middle there was one with more useable maps.)
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Wow, these maps are amazing, if slow to load (for me). What's the significance of the C [A] zone rating for Tarislar?
http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on (http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on)
I mean, I know what the letters mean; but not the parenthesis.
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Seriously, although I kind of like the poster in the English Box set, I’d pay for a physical copy of that German map. I don’t even care about the language issues, it would still be better than anything I have (granted I only have the 1st and 5th edition Seattle supplements, maybe somewhere in the middle there was one with more useable maps.)
Pretty much this!! Now to reach out to colleagues/friends across the pond... 8)
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It would be great if this map was released as a stand-alone file on DTRPG. Ulisses Spiele did that for their Earthdawn map (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/167491/Barsaive-Karte-fr-Earthdawn-als-Download-kaufen): when you buy it you get several versions, including a layered PSD.
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Me three! A full-size poster and/or a PDF with sufficient resolution to read the fine print ... I'd buy both.
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Wow, these maps are amazing, if slow to load (for me). What's the significance of the C [A] zone rating for Tarislar?
http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on (http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on)
I mean, I know what the letters mean; but not the parenthesis.
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I believe the C is the official rating, or at least was from when Lone Star held the sprawl contract, but the actual rating is equivalent to A because "someone" had contracted additional KE security to supplement security since Lone Star virtually abandoned Tarislar.
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Good to know Dude. I guess Tarislar is middle class now. Gentrification!
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Tarislar gets a nice write-up on p. 126 of Seattle 2072 and on p. 66 of Emerald Shadows from the Seattle Box Set, if you have it.
Tarislar is officially abandoned by the metroplex government, meaning there are no municipal services, but the community has pulled together to provide sanitation, water, power, food, and a Knight-Errant contract (as Crimsondude notes). The Ancients and Laésa are dangerous, especially to each other, but also provide a measure of order and stability and protection from outsiders.
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Something tells me (https://www.facebook.com/shadowrun.de/photos/a.439553975873.228717.314664640873/10155014697235874/?type=3&comment_id=10155038259620874&reply_comment_id=10155045250445874&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R2%22%7D) this discussion has not been unnoticed by Pegasus Spiele...
we are thinking about a 'map pack' in a far higher resolution somewhere down the release schedule...
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Excellent!