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working on a back story for an ex-saeder-krupp special forces type of unit and i'm trying to figure out where they could have been stationed (within the last 5 years or so) to see protracted combat. preferably some third world jungle fighting vs guerrillas type scenario. definitely looking for something they would have had to stick around to deal with rather than just an in and out mission. any ideas?
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working on a back story for an ex-saeder-krupp special forces type of unit and i'm trying to figure out where they could have been stationed (within the last 5 years or so) to see protracted combat. preferably some third world jungle fighting vs guerrillas type scenario. definitely looking for something they would have had to stick around to deal with rather than just an in and out mission. any ideas?
1) Germany (or actually most of Europe)
2) Desert Wars (anywhere)
3) Clandestine Research lab (anywhere)
I don't know any character background here, but my vote would lean towards option 3)
Secret labs don't rotate security staff often, and due to their secrecy, can't just call for backup whenever there's a threat. Also, the more remote, the better (maybe an island?)
To match your jungle requirement, just put it in a tropical location such as Africa, Asia Minor, South America, Polynesia or even Australia.
There'd be plenty of threats there (both humanoid and, well, not!) to keep any military PC intensely occupado....
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Their more overt militaristic presence would probably be:
SOX (For all the S-K bases/labs/other facilities, maintaining the military cordon with MET2k and the Bundeswehr, and Rad Wars)
Sahara/Maghreb (Desert Wars)
Gobi Desert (Desert Wars spinoff)
West Africa (You can get jungleish here)
Middle East (protecting Fatima Petrochem/other S-K interests)
Central Asia (New Silk Road)
Russia
IIRC, S-K has the largest military of any AAA, but that is still a Battalion. Then again, S-K also by canon doesn't distinguish between military and security assets.
Individuals and entire squads often get transferred between the two forces with little warning.
So he could be SF or high-threat response (they are specifically referred to as being on-call in/just outside the SOX in Corp Download).
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West Africa (You can get jungle-[i']ish[/i] here)
thanks guys. i'm thinking the niger river delta would be ideal.
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Lagos and surrounding are less probable the place with heavy SK pressance. According to Feral Cities, SK was pushed from this quite hard by other corporations and even if they are planning something, there will be a small amount of military advisors in the area right now. I think the heaviest presence, Scandinavian and German homeground excluded, would be Ukraine, Belarus and surrounding areas, where a lot of archeological research is beeing made by SK and lot of clashes between SK, Atlantean Foundation, DF and many more are fought over the sites...Lowfyr also have a heavy influence on Middle-East, So I would look there. And of course, Desert wars, as posted by others...
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In War they have a section on SK's attempt to take over Nepal. Mountains not jungle but it is the kind of warfare the OP is looking for.
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"Where would Saeder Krupp have an overt military presence?"
Where ever it wants to!
Badum-ching! ;D
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Overt Military Presence, Heavily Armed Secretary Pool... What's the difference?
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When your a AAA mega I really don't think there is one :P
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Secretarial Cyberzombies? "SIR, YOUR. FIFTEENHUNDRED O CLOCK. APPOINTMENT. HAS ARRIVED. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO. SEND HIM/HER IN? Y/N?"
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More like Secretarial Drakes with assassin training.
Don't piss off the boss, even if he isn't the Dragon.
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I'm still waiting for a cyborg dragon. I'll be back, indeed. This time with 64% less mercy!
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I'm still waiting for a cyborg dragon. I'll be back, indeed. This time with 64% less mercy!
This is Shadowrun, not Riftstm
Please don't encourage/feed/pet the cyborg dragons....
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Never played much RIFTS. Something about cheesing off the Gamemaster with the CCW license. I was actually thinking of Fading Suns, of all things.
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You might be thinking of Equinox, however.
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Where does a Multiton, Megacorporation-owning Dragon keep his personal army?
Whereever he fraggin' well pleases, that's where.
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Where does a Multiton, Megacorporation-owning Dragon keep his personal army?
Whereever he fraggin' well pleases, that's where.
Damn straight.
Just for fun, why not have a semi-public lab in Glow City (with armed guards keeping the Ghouls and Paracritters away).
Nobody wants to go there due to the Radiation scares, so it's pretty much where trouble, trigger-happy guards get transferred without sending them overseas...
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"Hey, Joey, um, why do they call this place 'The Microwave'?" "Let's just say that we better hope the BIG boss never comes to town." "Oh..."
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One place I didn't see mentioned in this thread yet: Kenya, which is mostly tropical along the coasts (temperate and arid inland). S-K would be interested in helping protect the space port there, no?
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And...Sekondi in West Africa, "Sekondi calls itself an independent city ruled by the Ga, but in reality, the corps control the city. Most notable are Ares, S-K, and DeBeers-Omnitech..." (FC, pg 74).
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And...Sekondi in West Africa, "Sekondi calls itself an independent city ruled by the Ga, but in reality, the corps control the city. Most notable are Ares, S-K, and DeBeers-Omnitech..." (FC, pg 74).
Nice find. Sounds like a nice, remote, corp controlled country :)
Perfect for the OP request...
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The answer is "yes".
Okay, more usefully...SK troops could be pretty much anywhere or at least nearby to anywhere. There's no SK facilities in Seattle (not counting subsidies), but Lofwyr was on the Counsel of Princes of Tir Tairngire for a very long time. The former Middle East (with the exception of the Libya/Israel wastelands) are a no-no because Aden fought tooth and claw to NOT let Lofwyr stick his golden snout there back in the 60s, but Lofwyr did get some footholds there. Tir nA nOg is probably a "nay" as well, seeing as the two Tirs don't exactly get along and Lofwyr spent a good few decades in the ruling counsel of TT, but France and England are both very close by and Lofwyr's claws are deeply embedded in Europe.
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Probably parts of Asia and Africa, along with some portions of India as well. And, maybe not Seattle, but certainly other places in the UCAS and CAS.
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S-K wasn't allowed to operate in Tir Tairngire while Lofwyr was a prince. Legally.
Now they can, and do.
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From some of the older sources I got the impression that the majority of all corporate military, globally, seems to be in Libya, as part of the Desert Wars. Makes sense, really - at least they have something to do there. It's even been said that people know the shit is about to hit the fan once the corps withdraw units from Libya.
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S-K wasn't allowed to operate in Tir Tairngire while Lofwyr was a prince. Legally.
Now they can, and do.
You forgot the word "technically" in there. SK did have assets in TT. Namely Lofwyr.
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I know what I wrote.
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I know what I wrote.
Ouch. Zing!
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It strikes me that the biggest limiter on AAA military might may be the inability to conscript.
Still; with many in SR being corporate citizens rather then national citizens, there is a smaller pool of conscripts available for national armies as well. And legally they could only pull from sinners, no?
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but France and England are both very close by and Lofwyr's claws are deeply embedded in Europe.
On that note, is it SK that runs the ESA launch facility in French Guiana in SR? Or have it been claimed by Amazonia?
Bah, should have checked 6WA rather then ask. Seems it is still its own area but surrounded by Amazonia.
No apparent writeup about its status either in the Amazonia section or in the France section tho...
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It strikes me that the biggest limiter on AAA military might may be the inability to conscript.
Still; with many in SR being corporate citizens rather then national citizens, there is a smaller pool of conscripts available for national armies as well. And legally they could only pull from sinners, no?
I seriously doubt that. The megas employ millions of people. They probably have more citizens worldwide each than a lot of countries that do conscript.
And I'm sure they offer citizenship and SINs to non-citizens and SINless who serve.
Frankly the one thing holding then back as far as I have ever been able to tell is that numerous are g-d expensive to operate, and from an accounting perspective there is not enough to gain to justify them. Desert Wars at least makes them money through ad revenue and such. At the end of the day the corps exist to make their owners as much money as possible, and wars don't bring in a lot of revenue, but they accrue naive amounts of debt.
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Ad Revenues, Pay Per View, Purchases from 3rd World Dictators that have funding for military but not food... Desert Wars is big business!
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Charlie Huston's Deathlok mini starts out with a DW background and the guy who becomes half of Deathlok is the first person to have a billion-dollar endorsement because he is a superstar soldier who knows how to sell the image like he was a gladiator. They fight on these futuristic urban warzones with no end of dangerous toys and his specialty is killing people with KNIVES.
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Heh, makes me think of SLA industries. There a group may want to televise their takedown of a target for sponsor money, and may get a bonus if it is down up close and brutal rather then cleanly from a distance.
I swear, there must be something in the Scottish water...
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But But SLA is funny.