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Shadowrun, Sixth World at Gen Con
By Jason Hardy, Line Developer
Gen Con is a week away, which means we’re really close to seeing lots of people from the Shadowrun community, soaking in Shadowrun games, and indulging in a number of ways to create more Shadowrun fun!
The Catalyst Demo Team will, of course, be running a ton of games during the con, and we’ll also be demoing the new Shadowrun, Sixth World rules at the booth. You can also dive into a demo of the board game Shadowrun: Sprawl Ops!
But the fun doesn’t stop there. It’s Shadowrun’s thirtieth anniversary, so we want to spread Shadowrun joy around. We’ll have a special display case of Shadowrun goodies from across the years for your viewing pleasure, and we’ll have plenty of new products for sale at the booth. Let’s get a look at the Shadowrun items you’ll be able to pick up at the con!
https://tinyurl.com/SixthWorldGenCon (https://tinyurl.com/SixthWorldGenCon)
(https://i.ibb.co/K64Gg0w/Sledge-for-SM.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Hey Cubby!
We're seeing the packaging for the Dice & Edge Tokens, but I haven't seen any pictures of the actual tokens themselves. Think we can get some shots?
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Also, any info on the versions of Core and maybe an example of a Rogue card? 😊 I want to know if I should get one or just use my Sprawl Ops cards.
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I think I'm being dense on this, but is the price of the basic CRB at GenCon listed anywhere? Can't make the run up to the con this year so I'm trying to send someone in my place with some cash.
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Also, any info on the versions of Core and maybe an example of a Rogue card? 😊 I want to know if I should get one or just use my Sprawl Ops cards.
They do have this handy pic of the display showing all editions of Shadowrun:
(http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/SR-Book-Collection_sized-910x391.png)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa... whoa...
To get 1 of the 12 statues, you have to drop $500 to get a "Super Fan Package", which includes:
One (1) Shadowrun, Sixth World core rulebook
One (1) Shadowrun, Sixth World Executive Edition book
One (1) copy of No Future
One (1) Shadowrun Dice & Edge Tokens pack
One (1) set of Rogue’s Gallery minis
One (1) Sledge statue
Then pay an additional $150 to be able to pick up the statue you already paid for in the Super fan Package?
Either they don't know how to list products, or that's big pile of bull-drek.
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Or am I reading this wrong?
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I don’t think there’s a right way to read that. It makes no sense.
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Or am I reading this wrong?
Nope, you read it correctly. They only have 12 available for sale at the Con, so if you absolutely must have one from the Con itself, then you buy the superfan package for $500, and then can buy the statue for another $150 at the listed times. Or you can just wait until they go on sale later in the year and buy it without the requirement of buying the superfan package.
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Yeah... I'm not so sure, since it seems to imply the statue is part of the Superfan package. I'm going to reach out to Jason for clarification.
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This would be less confusing if they just had a battle royal in the build-and-fight foam weapons pit...
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This would be less confusing if they just had a battle royal in the build-and-fight foam weapons pit...
+1
I'm still upset I didn't win the Katana for the one Shadowrun tourney I was a part of. Mostly due to switching GMs between the two nights and the 2nd GM had zero notes on what we did from the 1st GM.
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I'm still upset I didn't win the Katana for the one Shadowrun tourney I was a part of. Mostly due to switching GMs between the two nights and the 2nd GM had zero notes on what we did from the 1st GM.
What a bunch of jerks...
Well, this time around you just have to drop $500... then get there at a predetermined time, possibly bare-knuckle boxing other people who also paid $500... all for the chance to pay another $150 for a collectable statue a couple months before its not a collectable anymore. Seems like a milk run.
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Just heard back from Jason, the total price of the package, which includes the statue, is $500. You don’t pay the extra $150.
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Also, any info on the versions of Core and maybe an example of a Rogue card? I want to know if I should get one or just use my Sprawl Ops cards.
They do have this handy pic of the display showing all editions of Shadowrun:
(http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/SR-Book-Collection_sized-910x391.png)
Yeah but that doesn't explain the material or what the Corporate edition is like. =/ Is the GM-screen one Corporate? What's it like?
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Just heard back from Jason, the total price of the package, which includes the statue, is $500. You don’t pay the extra $150.
That was a rather strange way to word it then, in that blurb. ???
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How much is the top tier SR 6ed book?
Also when is that "AR enhanced" version of No Future come out? And a price on that...
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Just heard back from Jason, the total price of the package, which includes the statue, is $500. You don’t pay the extra $150.
Okay, this is less confusing now. So you pay the $500, and maybe get to have your statue when you leave GenCon (assuming more than 12 people pay for the package). And if you don't get the one you paid for, you'll get it shipped to you a few months later when they hit general release then, right?
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Just heard back from Jason, the total price of the package, which includes the statue, is $500. You don’t pay the extra $150.
Okay, this is less confusing now. So you pay the $500, and maybe get to have your statue when you leave GenCon (assuming more than 12 people pay for the package). And if you don't get the one you paid for, you'll get it shipped to you a few months later when they hit general release then, right?
I honestly don't know. They haven't changed the copy on the site either to reflect the answer I got from Jason.
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How much is the top tier SR 6ed book?
Also when is that "AR enhanced" version of No Future come out? And a price on that...
I *believe* the book on Catalyst Game Store (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/shadowrun/products/shadowrun-no-future-a-cyberpunk-sourcebook-pdf-only?variant=29065567993890) has the alternate slip cover to over the book's cover.
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How much is the top tier SR 6ed book?
Also when is that "AR enhanced" version of No Future come out? And a price on that...
I *believe* the book on Catalyst Game Store (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/shadowrun/products/shadowrun-no-future-a-cyberpunk-sourcebook-pdf-only?variant=29065567993890) has the alternate slip cover to over the book's cover.
The No Fear with the AR slipcover is in the Catalyst Games shop. That is where I got mine.
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Man I ordered through my FLGS, hope it has the AR cover. O_O
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I bought my hardcopy of No Future at my FLGS last weekend, and it has the AR slipcover. Honestly it works even better than I'd hoped, as it is five sided and quite sturdy so the book sits in it very solidly and it is honestly quite satisfying to slide the book into the cover (for me, anyway, my son has been reading it too and I keep finding book and cover in different rooms).
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Man I ordered through my FLGS, hope it has the AR cover. O_O
Mine did.
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I must admit that I'm quite taken by that figurine and the carbon-fiber(?) book cover looks pretty sweet!
@Cubby - you might want to cross post the message from the blog to the Sixth World site.
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Still want to know what the makes the Executive version worth the $200. What does it offer over the Limited Edition?
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Still want to know what the makes the Executive version worth the $200. What does it offer over the Limited Edition?
Autographs? I don't know.
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Still want to know what the makes the Executive version worth the $200. What does it offer over the Limited Edition?
The opportunity to spend significantly more money for effectively the same thing. ;D
Now to got get my wallet... ::)
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Will there be a GM screen available at GenCon?
What are the prices for the items? Specifically, the core rulebook and NPC deck.
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Will there be a GM screen available at GenCon?
What are the prices for the items? Specifically, the core rulebook and NPC deck.
GM screen is scheduled for end of September and has a MSRP of US 29.99
Core rule book US49.99
NPC deck US19.99
Tokens and dice US19.99
Miniatures US19.99
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Will there be a GM screen available at GenCon?
What are the prices for the items? Specifically, the core rulebook and NPC deck.
Thanks!
GM screen is scheduled for end of September and has a MSRP of US 29.99
Core rule book US49.99
NPC deck US19.99
Tokens and dice US19.99
Miniatures US19.99
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Are we sure the cure rulebook is $49.99? It is listed for $60 on Amazon currently.
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That was the MSRP given to me by my FLGS two months ago when I order it.
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Amazon lies. Specifically, it is not a partner of Catalyst so it tosses things up there without getting full info from CGL. I'm guessing they based it on the SR5 price.
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Actually, most of the sellers on Amazon are third-party game shops that overprice the books, tack on $15 for Shipping, and say it will arrive between August 10th and October 1st.
Always, always, ALWAYS, look at the seller on Amazon. It may say "By Catalyst Game Labs", but that's not the seller. See the attached. The part circled in red is the Publisher, the highlighted part is the Seller.
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If you click on the part highlighted in the first attachment, you'll see the list on the second attachment that shows all the sellers and how they are offering it.
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That was the MSRP given to me by my FLGS two months ago when I order it.
Thank you all so much!
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So...When should we be looking for the PDF to go up on DriveThru? Sometime today(thursday, the first day of the Con)?
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Probably Monday at the earliest.
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Might also be weeks from now...
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I don't think there's been any official announcement beyond "physical product at GenCon." Not even for physical product being orderable online. Which is a little frustrating, honestly, as I'd like to get my hands on the PDF. Please correct me if i'm wrong and I've missed some comms.
I'm leaning towards "if the PDF was definitely going to be available this week, Catalyst would probably have said so, and therefore it probably won't be." I don't know what holdups there could be to publishing the PDF once the physical version is available, as it feels like you just export the final proof to PDF and put it on the store; but I don't have a lot of insight into the publishing process in general so maybe there's more complexity to it than I can see...?
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I'm leaning towards "if the PDF was definitely going to be available this week, Catalyst would probably have said so, and therefore it probably won't be." I don't know what holdups there could be to publishing the PDF once the physical version is available, as it feels like you just export the final proof to PDF and put it on the store; but I don't have a lot of insight into the publishing process in general so maybe there's more complexity to it than I can see...?
Remember, all I'm saying is what has happened in the past, and I have no inside knowledge on these releases.
BUT, I've noticed that they frequently will release the pdfs during GenCon without announcement. Many of the times I've been at GenCon, I've seen the new books for BattleTech and Shadowrun on the shelves at the con, then got back to my room and found the PDFs on DriveThru.
I don't want to get hopes up, but if I'm sitting at home and bouncing in my chair, refreshing DriveThru and Catalyst Store every five minutes, I'd like to think I'm not alone.
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I can confirm you're definitely not alone, FJ!
::goes back to jabbing F5::
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I can confirm you're definitely not alone, FJ!
::goes back to jabbing F5::
Ditto! I'll be checking for PDF drops this weekend, as I couldn't make the convention this year.
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Not on DriveThruRPG yet but that doesn't mean that it won't be. If you see a PDF available please start a new thread with an appropriate title.
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I don't see the book, but I have a STRONG suspicion it will be out very soon.
Mostly because, y'know, the ERRATA is already available:
SR6 Core Rulebook Errata (https://www.shadowrunsixthworld.com/resources/)
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FastJack post, second line: Replace "avaialbe" with "available" 8)
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FastJack post, second line: Replace "avaialbe" with "available" 8)
Take an Edge point for that post.
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FastJack post, second line: Replace "avaialbe" with "available" 8)
Thanks, my Internal CPU is currently multitasking 5 things and it should only be 4.
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Interesting: They fixed the availability of the Excalibur (it had different availability in two different tables), so now the Excalibur is available in chargen. Asides from some higher-grade wares, this means the only item in the book not available in chargen is now Seven-7.
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SR6 Core Rulebook Errata (https://www.shadowrunsixthworld.com/resources/)
Is there an Errata team for the Errata team? :P
Page 2, Second Column, under Cover I. II. III. IV"
"Replace the paragraph in the book and replace with the following:"
Page 6, Second Column, under Matrix > Personas and Attributes:
"Data Processing is the raw computing power of a device. Data Processing governs how quickly a device can operate and contributes to running programs concurrently. The Data Processing attribute is the limit of (how?) many devices you can slave to it."
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Seems the movement power still multiplies/divides your speed. I had hoped it just added meters of movement so it made you faster without being absurd still.
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SR6 Core Rulebook Errata (https://www.shadowrunsixthworld.com/resources/)
Is there an Errata team for the Errata team? :P
Page 2, Second Column, under Cover I. II. III. IV"
"Replace the paragraph in the book and replace with the following:"
Page 6, Second Column, under Matrix > Personas and Attributes:
"Data Processing is the raw computing power of a device. Data Processing governs how quickly a device can operate and contributes to running programs concurrently. The Data Processing attribute is the limit of (how?) many devices you can slave to it."
Wow. Really? I know that they spent a lot of time on this, getting it out ASAP when they didn't even get access to the material until early May. And your first response is to complain about the volunteers putting through all the effort to get this to you as quickly as possible. Especially when MOST of you (and you know who you are) have been saying for the last three months that you doubt you would see ANY errata.
Congratulations, now you know why people stop volunteering to do things for the fandom.
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Congratulations, now you know why people stop volunteering to do things for the fandom.
And now I feel like my entire life is a waste.
Or not.
Congratulations to you as well.
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I can confirm 1 errata for the errata:
"Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action." -> "Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action."
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I can confirm 1 errata for the errata:
"Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action." -> "Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action."
Ah, thanks! I was scratching my head a bit about what that meant.
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Do note that I'm not errata team so that is unofficial but it is what is intended. =)
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Does that mean, so to speak, incoming action? If I'm shot three times in the same initiative phase by three opponents, I can use Edge as I please to defend against all three incoming attacks?
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I wonder if they specify anywhere if spellcasting and drain resistance are separate actions or part of the same action. I’d same same but who knows.
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Not attempting to nitpick, but since the errata doc is digital, it can be updated easily, I would assume. Just offering some helpful observations for said update.
Page 2
p. 46, Spending Edge clarification:
"Note that nothing can ever reduce the cost of and Edge Action to 0 Edge. "
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Anyone able to comment if the Errata will be added to the PDF version of the rulebook? 10 pages of fixes is too much to justify a purchase for me until that's the case, unfortunately. Especially missing tables. That's probably a dealbreaker for me. Definitely rules out a physical copy.
That said, in the interest of helping out, I have some suggestions on some clarifications I can see in the Errata that could be helpful. Not knowing the intent fully, I suppose I might be wrong about my suggestions, but I saw a couple paragraphs in the Errata doc that were a little unclear as written (Essence, Cover). I'd like to suggest some rewording for clarity. I don't need to do so online though, if there's someone I should PM?
Cheers, and gratz on getting Errata doc out so fast. That's a positive sign in my opinion.
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I can confirm 1 errata for the errata:
"Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action." -> "Characters can only have one expenditure of Edge per round action."
Cool - this might make 6-7 Edge desirable for fast characters depending of the order of spending/receiving Edge.
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A tour of the Shadowrun section of the CGL booth at GenCon 2019:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452182928182377&id=155068684560491 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452182928182377&id=155068684560491)
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"available later this year"
Bah.
::Stops refreshing drivethrurpg::
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A tour of the Shadowrun section of the CGL booth at GenCon 2019:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452182928182377&id=155068684560491 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452182928182377&id=155068684560491)
Is there a non-facebook link to the vid for those of us who tell The Zuk were to stick his data collection?
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Is there a non-facebook link to the vid for those of us who tell The Zuk were to stick his data collection?
👍+1
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Some news about the date of PDF version?
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Officially release from CGL on the book of faces:
Book will go on sale early October, PDF will be available about a month before.
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While I doubt it I hope the delays mean some of the errata gets incorporated into the first printings.
The hope is the rushed a limited release for gen con but the main batch has not been printed yet.
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No. In the world of physical books lead time is long. These books are already printed and on the way to where houses (about six to eight weeks shipping time). Any errata or changes will have to wait for a second printing if there is one.
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FastJack post, second line: Replace "avaialbe" with "available" 8)
Bruh!
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This will be the first edition that I don't/won't have a first edition Printing of a core book. Even if supplemented by errata I can live with it but that is for my collection. For playing I can wait for the actual errata modified copy.