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I`ve started to seriously use this sourcebook for my PbP game, and I hava only one thing to say:
Location, location, location, location.
When I was trying to track down Auburn Junction on Google Earth, I was (at leas I hope so) succesfull.
But when Im trying to find out location of Auror bar, Im deffinitely lost. Maybe its because Im not american, and Steert labeling system confuses me a bit, but when i found what probably should have been: 304th Street E & 132nd Avenue E, I was lost somewhere in Puyallup, south from Carbonada. And if the Aurora is mentioned as a Auburn location, this is pretty bad for me.
Now.
I really don`t see why those locations, at least those few descripted in the district chapter have not been marked on Seattle district maps, that are attached to each districts desription.
How fat it is from Aurora to Auburn Junction?
In the game, where every minute counts, this complication is really something that irritates me. There are 25 places of interest in the Auburn, and i wouid suppose, that similar number in every other chapter. Why there are not 25 numbers/points on the map to make life easier for us gamemasters.
Otherwise it is beautifull piece of work that gives the game perfect feeling...until you try to find some location exactly.
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Try this map (http://shadowrun.chinagreenelvis.com/map/index.html). I don't know if it has all of the locations but it has a lot. As for Seattle 2072, I also wish they had marked some of the locations on the maps in the book.
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Try this map (http://shadowrun.chinagreenelvis.com/map/index.html). I don't know if it has all of the locations but it has a lot. As for Seattle 2072, I also wish they had marked some of the locations on the maps in the book.
AWESOME!!
+1
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Try this map (http://shadowrun.chinagreenelvis.com/map/index.html). I don't know if it has all of the locations but it has a lot. As for Seattle 2072, I also wish they had marked some of the locations on the maps in the book.
Shiny!
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Wow, just wow!
Is there a 'resource' section around? This link needs to be added!
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WOW, just wow.
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I know I've said some things about Kenson, but I like what he did with this book.
No. I love it.
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Sorry that this is off topic but how did this map get created? I would love to make one for New York.
Red
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You can create your own google maps with some XML and web coding know-how. Basically, ChinaGreenElvis created the overlay onto a google map of Seattle.
For more info, check here (http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/v2/overlays.html).
I should warn you though, I know from professional experience this is not a "quick and easy" process. You have to look up each location's longitude/latitude in order to mark it on the map.
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For more or less purely personal use, you can also create something similar in Google Maps. Go to Google Maps, click on :My Maps", and the "Create Map". YOu can add locations, shapes and lines, notations, etc. You can also share the map location with friends, and they can likewise edit it.
Not perfect, but... I've got one going that I made for Missions, primarily to help us with defining the Ork Underground stuff, but also to help us keep everything in perspective. Being able to draw objects on the map was especially helpful, in regards to this. Besides being able to draw out exactly where the Ork Underground Tourist Highway is, as well as map out a few of the public entrances, it was also nice to actually have the size and location of large structures like the Renraku Arc and the Aztechnology Pyramid on there (Something I'd like to see china's map add).
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Hopefully we'll have a full detail on the Ork Undergound, possibly a map? That would be a big boost to Seattle that we haven't seen yet in a sourcebook. ;D
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THere is an Ork Underground eBook in the works. That (and internal consistency) is one reason we're keeping a running map of locations and stuff.
But, I wouldn't expect to see a full map of the Ork Underground anytime soon. The Underground is enormous and runs under most of Seattle, and trying to actually create such a map would be a nightmare. But, more importantly, a lot of the underground is constantly changing. Some of it is permanent (or at least semi-permanent), but those areas are mainly small pockets of civilization all connected by tunnels... many of which are not well constructed. Old tunnels collapse all the time (sometimes by accident, sometimes deliberately) and new ones are always being dug out. This is one reason the Underground is so dangerous for non-residents.
Anyway, ideally, we'll at least have a map of the Tourist Highway (There was a small, partial map in 04-00 of this), and we'll have an overview map of Seattle that marks out some of the major exits. That's what I'd like to see, anyway. That projects not in my hands though, so we'll see what happens.
Bull
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Im really intersted, since in Settle sourcebook there is a note that Seattle lacked subway system, what is the origin of the Ork underground??
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The basis for the Ork Underground is the real-life Seattle Underground (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Underground). There's a lot of tunnels and connected basements and such beneath the metropolis right now.
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More I know about that city, more I love it :)
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The Awakening, and Mt Rainer going kablooey, plus some creative liberties with the geology under Seattle all helped as well. As is always the case, certain creative liberties get taken to serve the greater good :)
http://metro.kingcounty.gov/tops/tunnel/tunnel-map.html
On that map there, most of the area for about 10 blocks or so around Pioneer Square is what was buried. Those formed the initial basis of the Underground. With the help of a group of dwarves, the original orks who fled to the Underground built up and reinforced that area, then began tunneling and building outward, connecting up with other natural underground formations and structures that were similarly buried.
The Tourist Highway is the "public" section of the Ork Underground, the part that regular, non-underground folk (Topsiders, as they're referred to) can pay to tour, was built along most of the by-2050 abandoned Transit Tunnel that you can see in the linked map. The two most well known public entrances, the Big Rhino (1st & Senaca) and Lordstrungs (5th and Pine). Conveniently fall along a portion of that TRansit tunnel.
The southern end of the Transit tunnel also conveniently sits on the South-Eastern edge of the Renraku Arcology (Matching up the old 1st ed Downtown street map to this), and of course there's been a long rumored entrance to the Underground under the Arc.
:)
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As is always the case, certain creative liberties get taken to serve the greater good :)
More commonly referred to as "The Rule of Cool". :P
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Damn, I'm just mind-blown by all these links. Thanks, they'll definetely be very useful!
And question, anyone know where I can get a somewhat cheap big map of Seattle on print? I'm a table-top GM, and I rarely have access to computers in my games since we play at each others' houses and I don't own a notebook.
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There's lots on the Internet you can find to print out.
They might be hard to find outside the area, but a fold-out map of the city can be found at some places. Maybe a travel agency? I know I'm on my third map of Winnipeg... Keep losing the bloody things, but they can be had at any gas station.
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There's lots on the Internet you can find to print out.
They might be hard to find outside the area, but a fold-out map of the city can be found at some places. Maybe a travel agency? I know I'm on my third map of Winnipeg... Keep losing the bloody things, but they can be had at any gas station.
In US. I'm in Brazil. Bah, I'll try checking for a good dpi one online, thanks.
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I'm in Canada, not much better. I can find some of the northern US Cities OK, but not someplace as far as Seattle. Online is your best shot if you're in South America.
Keep your head down from the Azzies!
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http://www.amazon.com/Streetwise-Seattle-Map-Laminated-Washington/dp/0935039554
http://www.amazon.com/Greater-Seattle-Street-Map-Book/dp/1926532805
https://www.universalmap.com/p-7485-seattle-wa.aspx
Shipping might be a bit expensive, but the maps themselves are pretty cheap. I really like the last one... I have a couple state maps by that company that I've used for driving to the game conventions, and a local Northeast Ohio one that I use for my day job (Amish Taxi Driver :)). Laminated maps are nice because they hold up really well, though a normal paper one is better if you're looking to mark it up.
And if you're really dedicated, get a classroom style Seattle City map: https://www.universalmap.com/p-3749-seattle-wa-vicinity-wall-map-railed.aspx
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Amish Taxi Driver :)
2HP cab :)
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Amish Taxi Driver :)
2HP cab :)
Heh, reminds me of a joke.
"What goes Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop, BANG, Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop?"
Amish Drive By.
I actually am currently driving a Mini-Van for the job though. I'm currently in an area with a large Amish community (Middlefield, Ohio, 4th largest Amish Community in the U.S.), and Horse & Buggy isn't all that practical a lot of time. So I have some guys I pick up and take home from work on a regular basis, run out on shopping trips, etc. They can;t own or operate a car, but they can ride in them. :)
Bull
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http://www.amazon.com/Streetwise-Seattle-Map-Laminated-Washington/dp/0935039554
http://www.amazon.com/Greater-Seattle-Street-Map-Book/dp/1926532805
https://www.universalmap.com/p-7485-seattle-wa.aspx
Shipping might be a bit expensive, but the maps themselves are pretty cheap. I really like the last one... I have a couple state maps by that company that I've used for driving to the game conventions, and a local Northeast Ohio one that I use for my day job (Amish Taxi Driver :)). Laminated maps are nice because they hold up really well, though a normal paper one is better if you're looking to mark it up.
And if you're really dedicated, get a classroom style Seattle City map: https://www.universalmap.com/p-3749-seattle-wa-vicinity-wall-map-railed.aspx
Working in one of my country's biggest bookstores won't be a problem in acquiring those linked maps. Thanks a bunch!
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Amish Taxi Driver :)
2HP cab :)
Heh, reminds me of a joke.
"What goes Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop, BANG, Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop?"
Amish Drive By.
I actually am currently driving a Mini-Van for the job though. I'm currently in an area with a large Amish community (Middlefield, Ohio, 4th largest Amish Community in the U.S.), and Horse & Buggy isn't all that practical a lot of time. So I have some guys I pick up and take home from work on a regular basis, run out on shopping trips, etc. They can;t own or operate a car, but they can ride in them. :)
Bull
hhh
Amish Idea of Move-by-wire?
Puppet show! :)
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Amish Taxi Driver :)
2HP cab :)
Heh, reminds me of a joke.
"What goes Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop, BANG, Clip-Clop, Clip-Clop?"
Amish Drive By.
I actually am currently driving a Mini-Van for the job though. I'm currently in an area with a large Amish community (Middlefield, Ohio, 4th largest Amish Community in the U.S.), and Horse & Buggy isn't all that practical a lot of time. So I have some guys I pick up and take home from work on a regular basis, run out on shopping trips, etc. They can;t own or operate a car, but they can ride in them. :)
Bull
hhh
Amish Idea of Move-by-wire?
Puppet show! :)
Hehehe. You guys should go on tour.
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Actually, the good point about the internet is, that Amish will never read what you write about them...
Not that I have a need to offense them, just...stating the fact :)
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You might be surprised. :)
When my Mom (Who's been doing the driver thing for over a decade now) got her smart phone, it was a bunch of the amish kids she drives sometimes that showed her how to use it! :)
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LOL
They must have been enlightened by some...Deus?
The Most brutal:
Amish Otaku
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That actually raises a pretty interesting question. How would the Amish react to a mage or technomancer born to the faith? I only have some outsider knowledge on them, but I don't think they are the type to renounce the individual...
But it would be interesting to see how they would take to someone that is "plugged in" like a technomancer.
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That actually raises a pretty interesting question. How would the Amish react to a mage or technomancer born to the faith? I only have some outsider knowledge on them, but I don't think they are the type to renounce the individual...
But it would be interesting to see how they would take to someone that is "plugged in" like a technomancer.
Not sure how the Amish would even come to terms with a completely Matrix connected world, they're not exactly connected now. Which means both crashes probably did not effect them nearly as much, hmm.
As for Magic....I think it's time for me to develop a new Magic Tradition. ;D