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Title: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Sliver on <06-10-11/1311:45>
I've been trying to find a way to increase mental attributes via augmentation.I found a bioware for charisma, but that's about as good as it can get. Is there any way to increase logic, intuition, or even willpower through implants?

Also, what are the magical means for doing this?
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Makki on <06-10-11/1316:56>
Magical: Increase Attribute Spell (all), new Adept Powers from "The Way of the Adept" (Log, Int)
Augmentation: Cerebral Booster (Log), Genetic Infusions (Log+Int, Will), Adrenaline Pump (Will)
Drugs: many

Tailored Pheromones do not alter your Cha attribute, they only give you a positive dice modifier when using it.
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Yorick on <06-10-11/1323:49>
dont forget genetic optimization. geneware lets you raise the unaugmented maximum, which means being able to buy +1 more in that stat. a bit karma-expensive, but a lot cheaper than the 25bp for exceptional attribute.

there a lot of geneware and nanoware that can give you a bonus to all attribute-linked tests, which is a bonus seperate from other attribute boosts.
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: baronspam on <06-10-11/1324:14>
I am away from my books right now, so its hard for me to give you specifics.  But there are quite a few ways to increase either mental stas or dice pools for skills linked to mental stats.  I have looked at building a hacker somewhat, and things like Encephalon, and Pushed (either a bioware or a nanotech, dont remember) are very helpful for logic related tasks.  There is an additional nano-ware that can give up up to an additional plus 3 to logic related skills in non-combat situations (cant remember the name.  I obviously need one if it was actually available real live).  There are more specialted ones as well (want to be better at cryptography?  Get a math coprocessor.  I believe there is one that gives a bonus to perception checks, etc.

So yes, there are, although some of them are somewhat niche applications.  Maybe if you listed what you were trying to boost someone with books in front of them (or a better memory than me) could suggest some particular items.
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Glyph on <06-11-11/1429:45>
For all three Attributes, there are the exceptional attribute and the (SURGE) metagenetic improvement (Attribute) qualities, and the genetic optimization geneware.  All raise the Attribute maximum (the SURGE quality also actually gives you a +1 increase; the others only raise the maximum).  There are also some metatypes, and some of the advanced character options from Runner's Companion (nosferatu, pixies, etc.) that give bonuses to mental Attributes.

There is only one implant (the cerebral booster) that can increase Logic, but it is available up to rating: 3 (only rating: 2 at character creation, unless you have the restricted gear quality).  There are other things that can boost your Logic tests, though, such as PuSHeD geneware, an encephalon, and more specialized things such as several types of nanites, mnemonic enhancers, and the math SPU.  There are also some qualities (analytical mind, photographic memory, etc.) and adept powers (analytics, eidetic sense memory, multi-tasking, etc.) that increase your mental abilities without raising Logic itself.

Intuition can not be increased with implants, but some geneware  and drugs can boost intuition tests, and there are lots of ways to boost your perception tests (adept enhanced perception, the perceptive quality, attention coprocessor cyberware, reception enhancer bioware, etc.), which is one of the major uses of intuition.

Willpower is hard to increase - some geneware and drugs can boost willpower tests, but beyond that most qualities and adept powers only give a bonus to one type of Willpower test (the guts quality, iron will, etc.).
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Mäx on <06-12-11/0447:09>
Willpower is hard to increase - some geneware and drugs can boost willpower tests, but beyond that most qualities and adept powers only give a bonus to one type of Willpower test (the guts quality, iron will, etc.).
Well Adrenaline Pump does boost Willpower by it's rating when active, not that i would success that for any character ;)
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Canticle on <06-18-11/2000:07>
Nanoware increases Logic and Intuition while certain geneware increases Intuition linked skills.
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: Mäx on <06-20-11/0753:59>
Nanoware increases Logic and Intuition
Nope, there are neural amplifiers for boosting skills linked to both, but nothing that boosts the actual attributes.
Title: Re: Increasing Mental Attributes
Post by: snowcrash on <06-20-11/0812:49>
Genewear does a couple of variants on this doesn't it?