Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: Onion Man on <06-30-11/0114:22>
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Okay, I've got a pretty good idea of what I'll be doing with a Technomancer to replace a comically incompetent rigger in my local game and we're presently in Lagos. Presumably we're headed off to Calfree whenever we finish up 'Dawn of the Artifacts'. My GM had asked me to not invest too much in a vehicle or anything at game start due to Jane zipping us off on a small plane, but at this point the crew already has a POS Van and the TM will be coming in with a truck and a motorcycle with sidecar (one for drones, one for him and his gun).
Where can I find rules/guidelines on flying/shipping large gear like that around, or am I going to have to track down some smugglers (and probably cause the GM to throw pirates or something at us)?
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Pretty much, yeah. You've got to hire a smuggler, aka, a rigger with a serious plane.
How difficult that will be is up to your GM.
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I might just squeeze a couple points out of somewhere and get him a smuggler as a contact then. The TM sort of needs his drone racks full o drones.
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You know, if it's not illegal (Or the TM can forge a nice set of "Security Services" licenses), legal methods are possible. :P
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If you haven't spent all your cash, get a supply drone like an Federated-Boeing Kull for 10,000¥ + mods or the vastly superior Ares Air-supply from This Old Drone for 8,500¥. Equip the suckers with the suncell mod and an extra fuel tank, and they can be anywhere in a couple days. You won't be able to move anything too big, like a steel lynx, but the Ares Air-supply has a body of 6, so it's pretty hefty.
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If you haven't spent all your cash, getting a supply drone like an Federated-Boeing Kull for 10,000¥ + mods or the vastly superior Ares Air-supply from This Old Drone for 8,500¥. Equip the suckers with the suncell mod and an extra fuel tank, and they can be anywhere in a couple days. You won't be able to move anything too big, like a steel lynx, but the Ares Air-supply has a body of 6, so it's pretty hefty.
The Air-supply even has space for chameleon cloaking and signature masking.
I got one for my Missions character purely so she can get her gear to CMP locations.
Pity they didn't specify exactly how much it carries, but "gear for an entire team" should be pretty decent amounts of cargo.
:)
-k
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Getting my hands on a copy of This Old Drone ASAP then. This TM is already 10 times the rigger that the rigger he'll be replacing ever was, and a "plane" would just put it over the top.
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They don't build 'em like they used to. Of course, it's used, so maintenance is probably expensive and the firewall needs extensive upgrading, otherwise anyone that catches sight of it can get a bunch of free stuff.
And an Air Supply!
I highly suggest TOD, BTW.
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They don't build 'em like they used to. Of course, it's used, so maintenance is probably expensive and the firewall needs extensive upgrading, otherwise anyone that catches sight of it can get a bunch of free stuff.
And an Air Supply!
I highly suggest TOD, BTW.
A) ToD is a great resource
B) There are some simple hardwire ways to protect an old Firewall... just code the drone (via hardline connection) to travel point to point and rip out the Wi-Fi rigging controls. This leaves the AR tags in place so it looks like any other drone, but it can't get hijacked in the meantime.
- Note: Of course you also can't regain control of it mid-flight either, but for point-to-point pickups it really is perfect.
C) Nothing annoys TM's more than a hardwired ARES-Sentinel installation.....
- What do you MEAN I can't hack them?! *Brakka*Brakka* Goddammit!
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Wireless has a lot of advantages. Wired has a lot more in a lot of ways.
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Getting my hands on a copy of This Old Drone ASAP then. This TM is already 10 times the rigger that the rigger he'll be replacing ever was, and a "plane" would just put it over the top.
With 6 body, the Air Supply can take either a reinforced weapon mount or two regular mounts. Not to mention 18 hardened armor.
Did I mention it's also VTOL?
Yeah, it's so much better than the Kull or Dalmation that it's retarded.
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Getting my hands on a copy of This Old Drone ASAP then. This TM is already 10 times the rigger that the rigger he'll be replacing ever was, and a "plane" would just put it over the top.
With 6 body, the Air Supply can take either a reinforced weapon mount or two regular mounts. Not to mention 18 hardened armor.
Did I mention it's also VTOL?
Yeah, it's so much better than the Kull or Dalmation that it's retarded.
I do love that drone...
And for that special job of massive bombardment, you can afford a fleet of the buggers, load them up with a hard-coded suicide run location (dumping missiles on the way to soften everything up first) and then kiss good-bye to pretty much anything less than a military-grade army base.
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Completely unnecessary, but I'll add my own endorsement of the Air Supply.
If you have 18k nuyen to spare: Chameleon Coating, Firewall 5, Satellite Comms, and an Additional Fuel Tank should see you through most missions. You can get Signature Masking later on as it's 14F.
Greatly aided my Mage's "unguided tour" of some pristine NAN land by carrying back some... souvenirs. It wasn't even mine, and that alone made me buy This Old Drone.
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The biggest question is, can this Ares Air Supply hold, or at least suspend from below, a GAZ P-179? I'm not opposed to needing to get a cargo parachute for it, but if I'm going to have the truck anyway I'd rather not just ditch it...
Then again i suppose I could move the drone racks to the Air Supply and then be pretty confident that the motorcycle fits in as normal cargo...
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The GAZ is a full-sized pickup with a body rating over twice that of the Air Supply. I'll let you draw your own conclusions there..
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The GAZ is a full-sized pickup with a body rating over twice that of the Air Supply. I'll let you draw your own conclusions there..
Soooooooooooooooooooooo... Ask the GM? :P
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Yeah... came top that conclusion last night. I may still need those smuggler contacts, but I'm still adding the Air Supply to the fleet. I could make an argument that since we can air-tow tanks under helicopters I could air-tow a pickup under a VTOL with less body than it, but I don't think I could make the argument that it would be able to make a trans-Atlantic flight.
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Yeah... came top that conclusion last night. I may still need those smuggler contacts, but I'm still adding the Air Supply to the fleet. I could make an argument that since we can air-tow tanks under helicopters I could air-tow a pickup under a VTOL with less body than it, but I don't think I could make the argument that it would be able to make a trans-Atlantic flight.
*Shakes Head* No. Maybe, *MAYBE* short distances, under continuous Rigger control as that would be well out of a Pilot Program's set parameters, and it'd be about as obvious as a...
Well...
A flying pick-up truck. :P
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A flying pickup truck covered in armed drones...
Previous post should have said "Since we can air-tow tanks under helicopters", but yeah... that's not exactly a long distance thing. I've switched the plan to using 9 points on an arms smuggler contact. He'd ought to have a plane or a boat that a truck can hide in. ;)
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Or a Seaplane. Those are beautiful for smugglers for a lot of reasons!
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I highly suggest TOD, BTW.
I'll second that succestion.
My favorite from it has to be the CAS Wandjina, that baby has both a reinforced weapon mount and a normal weapon mount, all for the low low cost of 12,5k :o
LONE STAR STRATO-9 is also quite awesome, giving you a flying reinforced weapon mount for only 3,5k 8)
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I would say that the Air-Supply could carry perhaps one motorcycle, and even then only if it has that mod that lets you break down a vehicle for transport. Maybe a few dufflebags of gear beyond that.
At least, that's what I stuff into my rigger's AS. :)
-k
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Couldn't you just get three or so of them, and have them all carry the truck?
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Couldn't you just get three or so of them, and have them all carry the truck?
That type of tight flying is really, really difficult to do even for humans. A Pilot program? Forget it.
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What about making a cargo helicopter into a drone?
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Same as making any vehicle a drone, and a lot less hard to do with Pilot programming.
'Course, you could just make the truck a drone and have it drive itself. :P
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'Course, you could just make the truck a drone and have it drive itself. :P
Truck can't exactly drive from Lagos to Calfree ;)
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Be hard to expect any drones to fly that far, either.
Well, Ballistic Flights...
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'Course, you could just make the truck a drone and have it drive itself. :P
Truck can't exactly drive from Lagos to Calfree ;)
If you don't mind long waiting times:
use a (mini)submarine with electric motor and solar panels.
takes weeks/months, but is nearly undetectable and does not need fuel or air or anything . .
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And solar panels work deep underwater, how? :P
Well, OK, "When at 15% power, surface and continue route until at 80% or greater power and then resume course underwater.", easy enough to program in. And something with that small a "Footprint" would be really hard to make. Just hope it doesn't hit a storm when surfaced.
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Just hope Moby Dick does not simply swallow it without realizing it . .
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Just hope Moby Dick does not simply swallow it without realizing it . .
Aw great, now after I bought Deadly Waves, I want to make a One-Legged Sea Rigger with a psychotic urge to kill an Awakened Whale Shapechanger.
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If you don't mind trash:
watch the 2010 Moby Dick Movie . .
Mod warning: NSFW Image (http://chzmemeafterdark.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/naughty-memes-moby-dick.jpg)
Furthermore you need to remember that Moby Dick would be one of the less Dangerous Ocean Dwelling Critters . .
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If you don't mind trash:
watch the 2010 Moby Dick Movie . .
Mod warning: NSFW Image (http://chzmemeafterdark.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/naughty-memes-moby-dick.jpg)
Furthermore you need to remember that Moby Dick would be one of the less Dangerous Ocean Dwelling Critters . .
This is my impression of me watching that movie.
Gabriel: "Call me Michelle."
Me: *click*
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*snerk*
yeah, that was one dumb move . .
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Sorry guys, I linked the image instead of embedding it in the forums. It's a bit unsafe for work viewing and don't want anyone to get in trouble for it.