Shadowrun
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Has everyone checked out SOPA and the troubles yet?
Look for it, learn about it, and for Ghost's sake DO something about it.
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Yeah, I've seen the stuff about it, and it's complete crap. If that goes through, the internet will become all but totally worthless to everyone in America, and not long after, to everyone else in the world as other governments take a cue and enact similar crap in their own countries.
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Other countries already have something similar. Restrictive regimes hardly like it when people have the ability to learn how to live without them.
Corporate interests are feeding congress money in the hopes of aquiring huge amounts of power.
The sad thing? Based upon the language of SOPA, someone could accuse the U.S. goverment websites of facilitating piracy, and force them to shut down in 5 days. Entire sites.
It's absolutely ludicrous.
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Opposing the SOPA... One of the few things that can get Glenn Beck to agree with those who would want to lynch him...
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Sorry folks, as good an idea as this is, we're going into politics with is against the ToS...
Me, I'm just bitter. It's going to affect me just as much as my neighbors to the South, and I can't do JACK FRAGGIN' SQUAT about it!
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I've not been playing Shadowrun that long, but already I'm missing when I thought the fluff was pie in the sky.
"Corporate courts? Pssh. Where'd they think that up."
Dystopian futures in RPGs shouldn't be so prophetic...
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Sorry folks, as good an idea as this is, we're going into politics with is against the ToS...
Me, I'm just bitter. It's going to affect me just as much as my neighbors to the South, and I can't do JACK FRAGGIN' SQUAT about it!
Out of curiosity, how does US legistlature effect Canadians?
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Well for starters... SOPA itself affect domain names like .com and .org, domains, we also use. Also some of our ISPs uses resources located in US territory, resources that also will be affected by the bill. Not to mentioned that it lay the groundwork for lobbyists in Canada to push our government into passing something similar here. I may be wrong about that but, US based website that don't have the budget to be hosted in different countries using local domain names won't be censored just for the US but for pretty much every other countries. Also, things like Paypal are affected and I sell/buy stuff on ebay from time to time, which may affect my ability to make transactions in the US. So we won't be as affected by this as a US citizen but it does affect us and other people from around the world.
The US is the most economically powerful country in the world and many other countries are closely tied to US economy. Every time the US passes a bill, no matter what it is, it always affect other countries at least in small ways.
But yeah, we're getting into politics here and it's against policy. So I'm gonna leave it at that. :P
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Also, when hasn't Canada bent over backwards when the US wanted a criminal that did a crime in the US while being a Canadian Citizen on Canadian Soil, and never left the country?
The RCMP will smash your door down for that Michael Jackson collection you just up/downloaded, send you to the USA, where you do five years of hard time... A year more than the man who killed him!
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The RCMP will smash your door down for that Michael Jackson collection you just up/downloaded, send you to the USA, where you do five years of hard time... A year more than the man who killed him!
That just prove that you shouldn't listen to MJ 8)
Rasmus
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That's just an example of how stupid the law is.
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Rather informative this post has been Jedi.
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I've not been playing Shadowrun that long, but already I'm missing when I thought the fluff was pie in the sky.
"Corporate courts? Pssh. Where'd they think that up."
Dystopian futures in RPGs shouldn't be so prophetic...
But why is it always the bad stuff! When am I going to get my gosh darn mana bolt!
>:(
Did see a dwarf with a pink mohawk the other day though...
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That's the point of cyberpunk. It looks bleak and folks say "Oh, that could never happen, but the guys writing it aren't going with crazy, out there ideas. They are taking a look at what we have right now, and just extending the trends out about 30 to 60 years.
It's SF doing what it does best: getting people to think and warning them of the consequences of their actions.
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It's SF doing what it does best: getting people to think and warning them of the consequences of their actions.
Too bad it doesn't seem politicos read Sci-Fi. :'(
Nor do the masses of Sheeple.
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Hello... I guess we're heading for interesting times.
Anonymous declares war (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/19/business/megaupload-shutdown/?hpt=us_c2)
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Well, as it's an attack on freedom of speech, it does fit their manifesto. I may not agree with a lot of what they do or how they do it, but I can get behind that kind of reasoning.
Son of a...
They're Neo-@s! Another Cyberpunk/Shadowrun Prediction come true!
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Well, as it's an attack on freedom of speech, it does fit their manifesto. I may not agree with a lot of what they do or how they do it, but I can get behind that kind of reasoning.
Son of a...
They're Neo-@s! Another Cyberpunk/Shadowrun Prediction come true!
I was wondering how long it'd take you...
The real question now, is who's Captain Chaos in there group?
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Well, as it's an attack on freedom of speech, it does fit their manifesto. I may not agree with a lot of what they do or how they do it, but I can get behind that kind of reasoning.
Son of a...
They're Neo-@s! Another Cyberpunk/Shadowrun Prediction come true!
I was wondering how long it'd take you...
The real question now, is who's Captain Chaos in there group?
It's been a rough... Lifetime. My brain isn't what it ever was.
I don't think they have him yet. They're not organized or coherent enough. Unless it's supposed to be Captain Crunch or Kevin Mitnick. (BTW: I want one of Mitnick's business cards!!!).
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Well, as it's an attack on freedom of speech, it does fit their manifesto. I may not agree with a lot of what they do or how they do it, but I can get behind that kind of reasoning.
Son of a...
They're Neo-@s! Another Cyberpunk/Shadowrun Prediction come true!
I was wondering how long it'd take you...
The real question now, is who's Captain Chaos in there group?
I hope they don't have anyone that's as good as the Cap.
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Well For those of you that are in the us wikipedia has an easy look up for contacts to your senators and congressmen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CongressLookup?new=yes I would HIGHLY recommend that you get in touch with them to let them know that you do NOT want this bill to pass... Its not really a question of piracy at this point these bills SOPA / PIPA are cutting out our legal system... The sad fact is if you even have a forum site or some such where your discussing xxx copyrighted goods if it has anything copyrighted up they can shut it down with out any kind of legal actions being taken.. and they can then sue you for whatever they feel like. Please just take the five to ten mins to get in touch with your Reps in congress and make sure they know that you do not want these bills passed.
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Well For those of you that are in the us wikipedia has an easy look up for contacts to your senators and congressmen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CongressLookup?new=yes I would HIGHLY recommend that you get in touch with them to let them know that you do NOT want this bill to pass... Its not really a question of piracy at this point these bills SOPA / PIPA are cutting out our legal system... The sad fact is if you even have a forum site or some such where your discussing xxx copyrighted goods if it has anything copyrighted up they can shut it down with out any kind of legal actions being taken.. and they can then sue you for whatever they feel like. Please just take the five to ten mins to get in touch with your Reps in congress and make sure they know that you do not want these bills passed.
And for those of us who will still be affected, and don't live in the USA?
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
I KNEW IT!! So, how big is the moose army? :P
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
I KNEW IT!! So, how big is the moose army? :P
Not big enough for the Pentagon's equally out of date invasion plan of Canada.
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
I KNEW IT!! So, how big is the moose army? :P
Not big enough for the Pentagon's equally out of date invasion plan of Canada.
Okay, still time to hunt down enough armadillos to train. ::)
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
No actually i was looking to see if i could find any links for foreign people to have something to say about the SOPA/PIPA. The most i could find was contact your ambasdors to the us and contact your legal heads about US extradition. Sorry i couldn't find any more on this.
there is another thing i ran across putting a real hurt on the bottom line of the people who are pushing this stuff through might help also..
(https://7chan.org/7ch/src/13270245812.jpg)
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
Hey Canada, we need more wood to build our Trebuchet.
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actually i recall seeing something about that let me do a little bit of digging and ill see what i can come up with....
If you're talking about the Canadian plan to invade the US, that's a little out of date. :P
Hey Canada, we need more wood to build our Trebuchet.
Sorry, we still remember the Softwood Lumber incident that was illegal due to the Free Trade Agreement. We're no longer sending the USA any Military-Grade Materials. :P
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Again, Aw No Fun. Fooey.
How are we supposed to get back into the space race now? We closed down NASA. The throwing of chimps into space with a Trebuchet was out last option.
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It's SF doing what it does best: getting people to think and warning them of the consequences of their actions.
Too bad it doesn't seem politicos read Sci-Fi. :'(
Nor do the masses of Sheeple.
Oh they read it, then just discard it because it bothers them.
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It's SF doing what it does best: getting people to think and warning them of the consequences of their actions.
Too bad it doesn't seem politicos read Sci-Fi. :'(
Nor do the masses of Sheeple.
Oh they read it, then just discard it because it bothers them.
The politicians read it to get ideas on policy-making.
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It's SF doing what it does best: getting people to think and warning them of the consequences of their actions.
Too bad it doesn't seem politicos read Sci-Fi. :'(
Nor do the masses of Sheeple.
Oh they read it, then just discard it because it bothers them.
The politicians read it to get ideas on policy-making.
Explains London and all the CCTV Cameras. Nineteen-Eighty-Four?
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Well, both SOPA and PIPA have been postponed indefinitely. I'm sure they're already working on something similar that they're going to sell as different but these two bills seems to be dead.
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Well, both SOPA and PIPA have been postponed indefinitely. I'm sure they're already working on something similar that they're going to sell as different but these two bills seems to be dead.
Not until we've burned the bodies and spread the ashes across three countries.
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Burn the bodies, sow the ashes with salt and then launch them into the sun.
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Burn the bodies, sow the ashes with salt and then launch them into the sun.
Salt and lye. Can't forget the lye.
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I've not been playing Shadowrun that long, but already I'm missing when I thought the fluff was pie in the sky.
"Corporate courts? Pssh. Where'd they think that up."
Dystopian futures in RPGs shouldn't be so prophetic...
Hey, bucko, there's a whole thread dedicated on Dumpshock.com on how prophetic Shadowrun is turning. All we need now is the actual magic coming back, oy.... ::)
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Hey, bucko, there's a whole thread dedicated on Dumpshock.com on how prophetic Shadowrun is turning. All we need now is the actual magic coming back, oy.... ::)
Give it time.