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Title: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Leevizer on <02-08-12/1319:27>
Which one do you think would be the better choice, game-wise? They kinda fit the same kind of character almost equally well, I think. As in, a street Samurai that sets his mind into battle as soon as it begins and finds it hard to stop until the deed is done, or considers every person who picks a fight with him or insults him as a personal enemy?

Personally, I think I would choose Combat Monster. I think Vindictive would be better for someone who would be in a gang or with low self-esteem...
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <02-08-12/1321:08>
I'd go with Vindictive myself. Combat Monster just isn't worth the points considering that you're pretty much boned if you ever get in over your head in a fight that's too much for you.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: UmaroVI on <02-08-12/1322:35>
You can have both, you know  ;D.  Vindictive to start fights, Combat Monster to finish them.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Leevizer on <02-08-12/1527:13>
I'd go with Vindictive myself. Combat Monster just isn't worth the points considering that you're pretty much boned if you ever get in over your head in a fight that's too much for you.

But Vindictive might also be used by a GM to draw me into those fights, and then say that I can't leave due to already having failed in that test of mine?
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: farothel on <02-08-12/1611:55>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Leevizer on <02-09-12/0243:35>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.

Now where's the roleplaying in that?
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: JustADude on <02-09-12/0253:34>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.

Now where's the roleplaying in that?

Well, the roleplaying is in going "If we weren't in public, drek-head, I'd dump a clip into you fragin' skull right here an' now. Next time I see you, you're dog-meat," because you really, really want to blow that snide asshole's head off his shoulders, but you know you'd be screwed if you did.

Besides, as best I can recall, Vindictive doesn't actually specify immediate revenge. Could always involve breaking into the guy's house later and Black Vaning him for a session with Mr. Pliers and Mr. Box Knife.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Makki on <02-09-12/0306:23>
Vindictive is funny. Our Ninja keeps a list of everybody whoever wronged him.About 4 out 5 team mates are on the list by now in addition to several obvious enemies and contacts.

Combat Monster I don't like. Got a PC almost killed once, because sometimes there's only retreat. We had to disable and carry him.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <02-09-12/1102:22>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.

Now where's the roleplaying in that?

Well, the roleplaying is in going "If we weren't in public, drek-head, I'd dump a clip into you fragin' skull right here an' now. Next time I see you, you're dog-meat," because you really, really want to blow that snide asshole's head off his shoulders, but you know you'd be screwed if you did.

Besides, as best I can recall, Vindictive doesn't actually specify immediate revenge. Could always involve breaking into the guy's house later and Black Vaning him for a session with Mr. Pliers and Mr. Box Knife.

What about Black Bags and "wall-to-wall" counseling?
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: JustADude on <02-09-12/1856:19>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.

Now where's the roleplaying in that?

Well, the roleplaying is in going "If we weren't in public, drek-head, I'd dump a clip into you fragin' skull right here an' now. Next time I see you, you're dog-meat," because you really, really want to blow that snide asshole's head off his shoulders, but you know you'd be screwed if you did.

Besides, as best I can recall, Vindictive doesn't actually specify immediate revenge. Could always involve breaking into the guy's house later and Black Vaning him for a session with Mr. Pliers and Mr. Box Knife.

What about Black Bags and "wall-to-wall" counseling?

Also a perfectly valid option, yes. ;D
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Thermo on <02-09-12/2138:02>
You can circumvent both with a composure (2) test.  Get composure up to 8 dice and you can buy the hits.

can't buy hits for this, chummer.. gotta roll the dice.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Crash_00 on <02-09-12/2212:57>
I gotta agree, I don't think the trigger for your PSC issues would ever be considered peaceful enough for buying hits. Sure higher stats mean a higher chance of success, but it should never be automatic.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Dracain on <02-10-12/2000:35>
I am sorry to need to ask but, which book are these from?  All I have is the anniversary edition as far as actual game books are concerned. 
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Mirikon on <02-10-12/2005:52>
Runner's Companion. If you can't find an old copy in your local game store, the PDF is available through DriveThruRPG.

As for the qualities themselves, I like Combat Monster more. I've taken it with Iceblade when I've played him elsewhere, before. Shark lends itself to that attitude.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: Dracain on <02-10-12/2009:56>
I figured it was that.  I plan on picking it up through drivthrurpg soon.  I'm not lucky enough to have a local place that has RPGs, so I got all my stuff from drivthrurpg.   
It's sad because the place used to at least have some D&D set up and sold some dice.  Now there are just a couple D&D books (not as much) and some d6s.
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: CanRay on <02-10-12/2021:35>
Pity, everyone need a nice, comfortable FLGS.   :'(
Title: Re: Vindictive or combat monster?
Post by: redwolf on <02-11-12/0305:46>
Pity, everyone need a nice, comfortable FLGS.   :'(
hi ray dont you rub it on, the nearest shop is 160 km from my home and the choice of shadowrun book's they got is s*@T at best, and no one to play with and i'm of to the dark corner to cry  :'(  poor me