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Why do people draw so few shadowrun style orks, trolls and dwarves? All people wanna draw is humans and elves. Especially in the new shadowrun material that's been coming out. Street Legends...only 1 ork and that's Bull...and it was in a much more cartoony style as the other portraits. There's been a few AMAZING ork drawings....my favorites being:
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/314/8/b/backroom_rage_by_raben_aas-d32jobg.jpg)
(http://www.ooze.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/shadowrun-meio-orc.jpg)
But how are we supposed to get a good movie made if we're not illustrating the most shadowrunesque shadowrun stuff in order for people to imagine it and not think it's cheesy?
This thread is for people to post art of ONLY shadowrunesque orks, trolls and dwarves. Please no green orks or trolls either.
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There's already a thread for throwing up art, just FYI; the "Fantastic Non-SR Shadowrunesque Art Thread" (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5104.0) thread.
I agree, though, that Orks don't get nearly enough love.
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Yeah, that's a damn good thread! My main issue is that people within shadowrun illustrate a lot of stuff which could really be part of any other cyber-punk or sci-fi world...I wish they'd beef up the distinctly shadowrunesque aspects of the world. A lot of the art depicting metahumans is pretty cartoony and sometimes straight up lame.
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Why do people draw so few shadowrun style orks, trolls and dwarves? All people wanna draw is humans and elves.
Elves and humans are prettier.
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Why do people draw so few shadowrun style orks, trolls and dwarves? All people wanna draw is humans and elves.
Elves and humans are prettier.
Yeah, because everyone knows that the only people that buy these books are adolescent boys who want "Hot Chicks" on the covers to drool at............ ::)
(And yes, Mirikon, I know you where being snarky. I just figured I would add to that. Because it really seems sometimes that companies really do believe that.)
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That's precisely why I like the above drawings I posted so much. They explore the aesthetically beautiful part and also everyday-ness of being a metahuman. I just don't understand why more artists don't want to explore this....and the people commissioning shadowrun art should also really push for more diversity in their artwork because that only strengthens the fantasy world. One of the reasons I feel no one has made a movie yet of Shadowrun is because the imagery in it feels rather schizofrenic and can't decide on what it wants to be. Drawings like the ones I posted above could only ever be shadowrun....it's a great branding of the genre. So I encourage more of this type of artwork and get rid of this whole "sexy elves and humans" theme which has been DONE TO DEATH!
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Here's some orks I really like...
(http://markzug.com/picture/orkunderground.jpg?pictureId=2832439&asGalleryImage=true)
(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/394492/maccallister.jpg)(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/339965/OrkMage01small.jpg)
(http://www.rpgpost.com/uploads/gallery/album_29/med_gallery_1812_29_213612.jpg)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/314/d/d/shadowrun_missions_art_by_raben_aas-d32jo1x.jpg)
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Cover of the Missions 04-97, Burn. ;D
(http://www.shadowrun4.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SRM0407BurnCover.jpg)
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I like to pretend that there are a lot of pictures with dwarves in them...
It's just you can only see the top of their hair at the picture's bottom edge.
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Very much liking this thread! ;D
Obidancer's gallery (http://www.obidancer.com/gallery/shadowrun/) has some additional SR-related images.
AJC
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Wow!! +1 To you Obidancer...so I'll just give that to AJ!
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Obidancer? I know that guy!
Pics 5 and 6 in this gallery are my character from a Star Wars game with him. Tamren Voord, pirate, bounty hunter, gunslinger, and general ne'er-do-well: http://www.obidancer.com/gallery/legends/
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There's a dwarf vampire in one of my upcoming stories, and a (relatively smooth) ork girl in another. I tried to bust some stereotypes in my descriptions for art in Another Rainy Night (I mean, we've got a relatively short, dumpy elf in there, for instance). I might or might not have a troll ex-football player in something coming up.
I'm trying. Really. But I'm just one man!
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Pics 5 and 6 in this gallery are my character from a Star Wars game with him. Tamren Voord, pirate, bounty hunter, gunslinger, and general ne'er-do-well: http://www.obidancer.com/gallery/legends/
I miss Star Wars RPGing... Wish I could game by cam. :(I'm trying. Really. But I'm just one man!
Hey, who said you could get away from typing! BACK TO WORK!
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Pics 5 and 6 in this gallery are my character from a Star Wars game with him. Tamren Voord, pirate, bounty hunter, gunslinger, and general ne'er-do-well: http://www.obidancer.com/gallery/legends/
I miss Star Wars RPGing... Wish I could game by cam. :(
It's just a play-by-post game, anyhow. I mean, I've never met the guy IRL or anything, it's just cool to see a dude I mentally associate with Star Wars, getting linked to (at random) for his Shadowrun art. ;)
(wonder if this link'll work)
http://games.obidancer.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3
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Pics 5 and 6 in this gallery are my character from a Star Wars game with him. Tamren Voord, pirate, bounty hunter, gunslinger, and general ne'er-do-well: http://www.obidancer.com/gallery/legends/
I miss Star Wars RPGing... Wish I could game by cam. :(
It's just a play-by-post game, anyhow. I mean, I've never met the guy IRL or anything, it's just cool to see a dude I mentally associate with Star Wars, getting linked to (at random) for his Shadowrun art. ;)
Just miss my old group. The GM of our old Star Wars game has arranged things to happen online via Cam.
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That's precisely why I like the above drawings I posted so much. They explore the aesthetically beautiful part and also everyday-ness of being a metahuman. I just don't understand why more artists don't want to explore this....and the people commissioning shadowrun art should also really push for more diversity in their artwork because that only strengthens the fantasy world. One of the reasons I feel no one has made a movie yet of Shadowrun is because the imagery in it feels rather schizofrenic and can't decide on what it wants to be. Drawings like the ones I posted above could only ever be shadowrun....it's a great branding of the genre. So I encourage more of this type of artwork and get rid of this whole "sexy elves and humans" theme which has been DONE TO DEATH!
Oh, when I get both the money and the right artist, my ork street sam is getting done. So....eventually there will be more female ork hotness out there :-) (and I'm up for artist suggestions if anyone has any!)
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The Ork on page 7, The Twilight Horizon, looks pretty cool, as does the one on page 11...I really dig the Ork SWAT-lookin' dude on page 72, too.
There's a wicked looking Troll -- a throwing adept, no less -- that gets all of page 139.
Y'know...just sayin'. ;)
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Still no Trollbow love?
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Check out the new cover to Unwired as well.
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Haven't checked out Twilight Horizon yet Crit but i'll definitely take a look!
Now the cover of Unwired kicks ass and I"m really happy about it!!
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Here's some orks I really like...
(http://markzug.com/picture/orkunderground.jpg?pictureId=2832439&asGalleryImage=true)
(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/394492/maccallister.jpg)(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/339965/OrkMage01small.jpg)
(http://www.rpgpost.com/uploads/gallery/album_29/med_gallery_1812_29_213612.jpg)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/314/d/d/shadowrun_missions_art_by_raben_aas-d32jo1x.jpg)
Damn those are nice orks! We need more of them, especially the sexy Ork chica ;)
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Damn those are nice orks! We need more of them, especially the sexy Ork chica ;)
Shadowrun: Our orcs are cuter!
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Damn Skippy they are.
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Damn those are nice orks! We need more of them, especially the sexy Ork chica ;)
Shadowrun: Our orcs are cuter!
True, but according to that Ork Life Cycle thread from a week or so ago, they only stay that way for a hot minute. :P
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Damn those are nice orks! We need more of them, especially the sexy Ork chica ;)
Shadowrun: Our orcs are cuter!
True, but according to that Ork Life Cycle thread from a week or so ago, they only stay that way for a hot minute. :P
"Sometimes it pays to be a premature ejaculator. Not often, I'll give you that. But sometimes. (http://youtu.be/z7k5YjfbcLQ)" - Butch Patterson, Private Dick
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OMG i damn near pissed myself watching that!!!
I'm totally making an ork based on him!! Here's what he'll look like:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66568711/SRork8.jpg)
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That is a very cool looking Ork... 8)
AJC
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Cover of Damage Control has an Ork front and center.
(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/CAT26408_Damage%20Control%20220.jpg)
AJC
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Another couple from Raben-Aas:
Shadowrun Bundeswehr Soldier (http://raben-aas.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3dsz9r) (Dwarf)
Shadowrun Warehouse Robbery (http://raben-aas.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4dsyrc) (Orc)
AJC
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Nice troll in the latest Roster (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.229598257127658.57512.170199826400835&type=3) update for Shadowrun Online.
AJC
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"New troll here." ;D
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I'm in love with the Roster art!!!! It's exactly what SR needs!!
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Why do people draw so few shadowrun style orks, trolls and dwarves? All people wanna draw is humans and elves.
Elves and humans are prettier.
Never judge a book by its cover. TRolls and orcs are beautiful too . We just don't flaunt it (Marak)
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The orc on the cover of Damage Control looks like he sees the dreaded lesbian elven stripper ninja.
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People have said that I with my beard look pretty good as a dwarf.
Too bad I'm 6'1". :P
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Walk on your knees? ;)
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Walk on your knees? ;)
Forced perspective like they did in Lord Of The Rings. ;D
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Walk on your knees? ;)
Forced perspective like they did in Lord Of The Rings. ;D
Make everyone else walk on stilts! 8)
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Walk on your knees? ;)
That's exactly what I did in the GenCon scramble '09 when i was playing ChromeMonger..... I even had one of the other dwarves copying me. heh
It was great When I had to get "face to Face" with a dude playing a Troll (He was damn near troll size IRL) I grabbed a chair plunked to down in front of him knelled down in it and then leaned into him.....
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Walk on your knees? ;)
That's exactly what I did in the GenCon scramble '09 when i was playing ChromeMonger..... I even had one of the other dwarves copying me. heh
It was great When I had to get "face to Face" with a dude playing a Troll (He was damn near troll size IRL) I grabbed a chair plunked to down in front of him knelled down in it and then leaned into him.....
I missed that in '09..did they do that in '11? are they doing it in '12?
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Yes and Yes