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Shadowrun General => The Secret History => Topic started by: DazedDante on <05-01-12/0104:41>
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Reading through the books catching up on modern Shadowrun history I came across Bull's entry on Harlequin in Street Legends Supplemental.
So Harlequin has closed the Watergate Rift? What! How? Why?
Just looking to see if this has been mentioned anyware else or I looking at being covered in more detail.
If not what are peoples thoughts on the act and how will other players react.
Cheers Dante
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He did what he does best. Mess around with things and sees what happens. ;D
As for the reactions, I figure Bull will continue to make clips of Panther Assault Cannon Rounds with his various names engraved on them.
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As for the closing of the rift, read the Praxis section of Artifacts Unbound.
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Ohhh... Thanks Mirikon that really answered alot of questions.
Also raised a lot more, but oh well.
Guess I'll have to wait for the dragon book to come out to answer most of them.
Any ideas or guesses on where the portal led?
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Yes.
Just to be clear Harlequin didn't close the Rift. Ghostwalker did. Harlequin was there, though, and Praxis is told from his POV.
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So he didn't do the Immortal Elven equivalent of poking it with a stick?
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Pity.
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What is interesting is how old white scales did that whole closing trick...
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Ghostwalker tapped into the power of the four artifacts, which allowed him to close the rift. In fact, the purpose of the four artifacts may have been to open and close metaplanar rifts. The trick, of course, is knowing how to get the specific metaplane you want. Since Ghostwalker took the artifacts with him, I don't doubt he'll be back soon.
As for where he went, it might be he had some unfinished business on the plane where he was travelling during the low time. Or perhaps he intends to bring Dunkelzhan's spirit back from the bridge. Or perhaps he's found some way to weaken Verjigorm. Who knows?
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I do.
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either i did not pay attention or some of the book were released in the wrong order, but i could have sworn he was back now.
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No, Ghostwalker is walking the planes at the moment. Hopefully he'll return soon, before people get too uppity in Denver.
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Ooooooooooooo, Spirit Dunkie returns and runs for President again!
And wins ANOTHER World Record as the first Ghost of a Dragon to be Elected! ;D
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Also first cyberzombie to hold public office.
I feel for Harley, losing Aina like that. She was probably his strongest anchor.
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Don't forget we now have an Anti-Harley to deal with.
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What's he going to be? Completely rational, predictable, and help newbs out in MMOs?
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I could see Harley helping out the newbs. His "ally" spirit would be more of an elitist hardcore raider.
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Harley would be one of those guys at max level who just sits around in the capitol city, cracking jokes on Trade chat just to pass the time, because he's done everything in the game, literally.
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Took him a week. The company is still trying to figure out how he did it. ;D
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Took him closer to two years. Because Bull kept stalking and P-Killing him ;)
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We all really know he is in a guild with all the other immortal elves, Celedyr, Eliohann, and Hestaby.
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And Perianwyr comes along every so often and ninjas raid loot.
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And Perianwyr comes along every so often and ninjas raid loot.
He's all about the Purples.
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And Perianwyr comes along every so often and ninjas raid loot.
He's all about the Purples.
Yeah, but he should at least stick to ninjaing stuff he can use.
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And Perianwyr comes along every so often and ninjas raid loot.
He's all about the Purples.
Yeah, but he should at least stick to ninjaing stuff he can use.
He just disenchants it all for the mats.
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I'm missing some very important information you guys are joking about... I assume the last few posts have been MMO speak?
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Yeah, they're all references to WOW. Raids are massive things of 10-40 people, where you do things like attack major world bosses or try and sack one of the enemy capitals, etc. Ninja-ing loot means you yoink as many of the important items as you can, without regard to the other players. Really good items for their level have names in purple text. And enchanters (a profession in the game) can disenchant (destroy) some items to gain materials that they can use in enchanting.
Needless to say, ninjaing loot to destroy it is not looked on favorably by other players, much as a max level character running around one of the newbie starting areas killing all the NPCs so the new players can't do anything.
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Don't forget we now have an Anti-Harley to deal with.
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What's he going to be? Completely rational, predictable, and help newbs out in MMOs?
BEHOLD!I AM THE THREAD NECROMANCER!
Uhh, anti-Harley? Did I miss something?
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Don't forget we now have an Anti-Harley to deal with.
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What's he going to be? Completely rational, predictable, and help newbs out in MMOs?
BEHOLD!I AM THE THREAD NECROMANCER!
Uhh, anti-Harley? Did I miss something?
See also:
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=13496.15
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Don't forget we now have an Anti-Harley to deal with.
...
What's he going to be? Completely rational, predictable, and help newbs out in MMOs?
BEHOLD! I AM THE THREAD NECROMANCER!
Uhh, anti-Harley? Did I miss something?
See also:
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=13496.15
Ah, danke. I feel dumb now for asking. ;D
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Took him closer to two years. Because Bull kept stalking and P-Killing him ;)
Speaking of Bull -vs- Harlequin, I remember having some issues with how Bull (the runner, not the writer :p) claims his buddy sacrificed himself at the end of an astral quest that sounded a lot like Harlequin's Back and died for real, whereas the sacrifice was supposed to be only symbolic.
But now I'm re-reading Caroline Spector's Worlds without End and when recalling his battles with the Enemy, Harlequin does mention one of the runners that helped him put Thayla on the bridge "fell" during the adventure (without giving a name or the detailed circumstances of his death). So I guess he could actually be referring to Bull's pal :)
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Took him closer to two years. Because Bull kept stalking and P-Killing him ;)
Speaking of Bull -vs- Harlequin, I remember having some issues with how Bull (the runner, not the writer :p) claims his buddy sacrificed himself at the end of an astral quest that sounded a lot like Harlequin's Back and died for real, whereas the sacrifice was supposed to be only symbolic.
But now I'm re-reading Caroline Spector's Worlds without End and when recalling his battles with the Enemy, Harlequin does mention one of the runners that helped him put Thayla on the bridge "fell" during the adventure (without giving a name or the detailed circumstances of his death). So I guess he could actually be referring to Bull's pal :)
Johnny 99 willingly sacrificed himself to help level out the spike point and stop the horrors from coming through. Bull was pissed because he felt that Harley never once thought about sacrificing HIMSELF. That may be true, but Harlequin is also playing a completely different game with much MUCH higher stakes that Bull couldn't possibly comprehend. Johnny understood why it had to be done, which is probably why he willfully sacrificed himself.
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Johnny 99 willingly sacrificed himself to help level out the spike point and stop the horrors from coming through. Bull was pissed because he felt that Harley never once thought about sacrificing HIMSELF. That may be true, but Harlequin is also playing a completely different game with much MUCH higher stakes that Bull couldn't possibly comprehend. Johnny understood why it had to be done, which is probably why he willfully sacrificed himself.
Yeah I know the story, it's the fact it contradicts what was explained in the Harlequin's Back campaign (that runners choosing to sacrifice themselves at the end would not actually die) that I had an issue with. Gameplay and story segregation, if you will. But at least it seems the idea that one runner didn't make it back was at least mentioned already in Worlds Without End. So we now know that anonymous runner was probably Johnny (even if that's probably more a lucky coincidence than some kind of master plan from the writers ^^)
Bull was pissed because he felt that Harley never once thought about sacrificing HIMSELF.
Aina actually calls Caimbeul out on that very same topic in the novel. Not because she would have wanted him to sacrifice himself, more to deflate his ego a bit.
Which makes me sadder than Aina is dead (...is she?) as she was the only capable of putting Harlequin back on track when he was acting like a jerk.
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Johnny 99 willingly sacrificed himself to help level out the spike point and stop the horrors from coming through. Bull was pissed because he felt that Harley never once thought about sacrificing HIMSELF. That may be true, but Harlequin is also playing a completely different game with much MUCH higher stakes that Bull couldn't possibly comprehend. Johnny understood why it had to be done, which is probably why he willfully sacrificed himself.
Yeah I know the story, it's the fact it contradicts what was explained in the Harlequin's Back campaign (that runners choosing to sacrifice themselves at the end would not actually die) that I had an issue with. Gameplay and story segregation, if you will. But at least it seems the idea that one runner didn't make it back was at least mentioned already in Worlds Without End. So we now know that anonymous runner was probably Johnny (even if that's probably more a lucky coincidence than some kind of master plan from the writers ^^)
Bull was pissed because he felt that Harley never once thought about sacrificing HIMSELF.
Aina actually calls Caimbeul out on that very same topic in the novel. Not because she would have wanted him to sacrifice himself, more to deflate his ego a bit.
Which makes me sadder than Aina is dead (...is she?) as she was the only capable of putting Harlequin back on track when he was acting like a jerk.
I, unfortunately, have not had the time to read any of the novels. I'm running entirely on what is mentioned in the sourcebooks and the Wiki. I'm pretty sure Aina isn't coming back, but I can see her fighting side by side with Dunkie on the bridge.
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I, unfortunately, have not had the time to read any of the novels. I'm running entirely on what is mentioned in the sourcebooks and the Wiki. I'm pretty sure Aina isn't coming back, but I can see her fighting side by side with Dunkie on the bridge.
Back in the Clutch of Dragons, there were a couple of off-hand comments that she might not be completely gone and may have become... something else.
While his activities are varied, (Harlequin) is rather focused on the Watergate Incident and the fallout, especially in regards to what happened to Aina. He is beginning to suspect that she may be something beside dead, but he is not yet clear on what that might be. He very much wants to know, though.
His anger blinds him, Ghostwalker thought. He doesn’t realize that she isn’t really gone. He won’t listen to reason, any more than I would.
I hope we'll have some answers eventually. Maybe in a third Harlequin campaign? That would be great.
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I, unfortunately, have not had the time to read any of the novels. I'm running entirely on what is mentioned in the sourcebooks and the Wiki. I'm pretty sure Aina isn't coming back, but I can see her fighting side by side with Dunkie on the bridge.
Back in the Clutch of Dragons, there were a couple of off-hand comments that she might not be completely gone and may have become... something else.
While his activities are varied, (Harlequin) is rather focused on the Watergate Incident and the fallout, especially in regards to what happened to Aina. He is beginning to suspect that she may be something beside dead, but he is not yet clear on what that might be. He very much wants to know, though.
His anger blinds him, Ghostwalker thought. He doesn’t realize that she isn’t really gone. He won’t listen to reason, any more than I would.
I hope we'll have some answers eventually. Maybe in a third Harlequin campaign? That would be great.
Aina actually makes a brief appearance in two of the stories I'm working on, Heart of Gold and Trickster's Folly. In Hear of Gold she frees Maisie (my OC) from the astral cocoon Vestrial trapped her in, and works as an astral messenger to help them both find each other and get back to the physical plane. (She disguises herself because she feels that seeing her in that moment would be too painful for him, so Harlequin never knows it's her).
In Trickster's Folly, Harlequin is forced to confront Vestrial on his home metaplane and gets his pasty immortal backside kicked. Aina finally shows herself to him and heals him, along with some cryptic comment about how he hasn't yet reached the end of his path before vanishing again.
Basically she serves as a sort of guardian spirit, and becomes a constant thorn in the side of horrors, horror constructs, and twisted spirits everywhere. She dishes out some well-deserved vengeance on those who tormented her for MILLENNIA.
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Fanfiction or actually canon novels?
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Fanfiction or actually canon novels?
Fanfiction. I have several in the works. Blood of the King is finished, and Heart of Gold is in progress. After that I have Mind of a Madman, Trickster's Folly, Blood Feud (working title, may change), and several supplemental short stories to bridge the gaps written in the style of JackPoint posts (JackPointer commentary included ;) ).
I've spent innumerable hours pouring over SR and ED lore to try and keep things as canonically accurate as I can. If I was ever commissioned to write actual canon novels, I might die. Lol
Edit: I have a sixth story I forgot to mention called Family Matters.