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Title: Big Regret... I could use some examples.
Post by: digeridork on <05-01-12/0933:43>
So like the subject line says, I have been looking at Big Regret and am coming up with only a smattering of examples for what could be so heinous to a runner or the runner community that it is worth the dice pool modifier and the Notoriety hit.

My take on it is that Big Regret would be similar to a Bad Rep action that no one knows about yet. Things like selling out your team and killing the Johnson are about as creative as I can get with it as far as my understanding of the Negative Quality is concerned. I don't really see the listed examples as being worth the penalties and was interested in someone else's take on it.
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Post by: Crash_00 on <05-01-12/0941:57>
Selling out your team, geeking your johnson, burning down an orphanage, slaughtering an entire village, not stopping someone in your team from doing any of the above. Basically if it screams ridiculously bad idea it could probably qualify for it. The only time I've seen it actually used was a character who let an assassination target live a faked the targets death. It eventually came to light what had actually happened and his reputation in the shadow community dropped like a rock.
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Post by: KommissarK on <05-01-12/0958:20>
Being involved in the containment of Chicago (killing civilians)

Using shrikes against a school bus full of elven children.
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-01-12/1118:17>
Being a former member of Winternight, being a member of Alamos 20K, made a deal with a dragon...
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Post by: Angelone on <05-01-12/1124:30>
If the character was former military or corp forces a big regret could be calling down fire upon civilian targets or getting bad info and slaughtering civilians.
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Post by: raggedhalo on <05-01-12/1204:18>
You starred in that trideo with Pachinko Mike that time...
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Post by: farothel on <05-01-12/1259:18>
starring in porn trids.  Couple it with Fame and you have instant fun.
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Post by: Lethe on <05-01-12/1335:36>
i had a character eating her own parents after getting infected...
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Post by: CanRay on <05-01-12/1456:45>
Former addict.  Any kind of addict.

People don't trust addicts, even when they've cleaned up.  (Look at how JackPoint treats Turbo Bunny)
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-01-12/1532:08>
starring in porn trids.  Couple it with Fame and you have instant fun.
Heh. I actually used that for one of my characters. Not the fame bit, but yeah.
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Post by: All4BigGuns on <05-01-12/1817:56>
starring in porn trids.  Couple it with Fame and you have instant fun.
Heh. I actually used that for one of my characters. Not the fame bit, but yeah.

Didn't Wyrmtongue eat people in porn?
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Post by: qazcake on <05-01-12/2025:35>
I figured if you wanted something that could be a huge regret and put that you killed your signifigant other.
Or You have a regret for leaving a teamate behind on a very important run.
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-01-12/2100:50>
starring in porn trids.  Couple it with Fame and you have instant fun.
Heh. I actually used that for one of my characters. Not the fame bit, but yeah.

Didn't Wyrmtongue eat people in porn?
Yes. And the reactions from people (IC and OOC) when they found out were PRICELESS!
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Post by: CanRay on <05-02-12/1200:02>
starring in porn trids.  Couple it with Fame and you have instant fun.
Heh. I actually used that for one of my characters. Not the fame bit, but yeah.
Didn't Wyrmtongue eat people in porn?
Yes. And the reactions from people (IC and OOC) when they found out were PRICELESS!
"Please don't eat me please don't eat me please don't eat me!!!"
Title: Re: Big Regret... I could use some examples.
Post by: Reaver on <05-09-12/0306:41>
Letting a known predator go free (molester, rapist, serial killer) for money.
Killing an innocent (especially a child)
Using an innocent to acomplish a run (selling a child to a molester)
Undeniable urges (IS a serial arsonist/rapist)... but trying to reform
Used to make especially graphic, sick BTLs
Involved in the murder of a large group of innocents (cleared a village to make way for a corp mining project)
Killed best friend as a child
Didn't stop someone from doing something nasty (Best friend from beating his wife to death, etc)
Used to sell women to bunraku parlours



I can think of alot more, (those are tame ones) but basically it should be somethign horrible that the character used to do/did that he feels bad about doing now. Even if he didn't mind doing it then.
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Post by: golan2072 on <05-09-12/0506:27>
Joining the Universal Brotherhood...
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Post by: Crimsondude on <05-09-12/0513:57>
Recruiting for the Universal Brotherhood.
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-09-12/1232:30>
Recruiting for the Universal Brotherhood.
After Bug City.
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Post by: JoeNapalm on <05-09-12/1239:22>
Recruiting for the Universal Brotherhood.
After Bug City.

In Chicago.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
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Post by: Angelone on <05-09-12/2157:50>
While dressed as a clown.

Edit- Used to be a mime.
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Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-10-12/0450:12>
selling out your team before Mr. Johnson has an opportunity.
caught on video attempting to seduce that mantis shaman hottie
caught on video trying to perform blood/toxic/invae magic
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Post by: CanRay on <05-10-12/2126:39>
Got beat up by the Girl Guide Troop for trying to steal their cookies.  (Those troll girls hit hard, admittedly.).

Tied up by your underwear to a lamp post by some Boy Scouts and used as target practice for six hours.

You enjoy Pop Music from the Megas and it's not a result of Psychotropic IC.

You were in a boy band, and was kicked out when you didn't look the part any longer.

You used to play RPGs.  The pencil and paper ones, with the weird dice, not the nice social ones online.

You were a Freelancer for an RPG Company writing/drawing for the books.
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Post by: JoeNapalm on <05-11-12/0907:09>

I dunno, CanRay...I get the feeling some of those are drawn from personal experience.

Did...did you get punched by a Girl Scout?

It's okay. It's gonna be okay.

*glances at the camera and shakes his head "no"*

There there.

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
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Post by: Curmudgeon on <05-11-12/1328:46>
I had an actual famous porn star character who had Big Regret because of the embarrassing music video she made when she first came to the city and thought she was going to be an entirely different sort of star.
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Post by: JustADude on <05-12-12/0136:17>
I had an actual famous porn star character who had Big Regret because of the embarrassing music video she made when she first came to the city and thought she was going to be an entirely different sort of star.

So her Big Regret isn't the porn, but the Bubblegum Pop video she did trying to be a mainstream star before she went into porn? ;D
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Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-12-12/0328:23>
cur,
did you base the idea for that character off robin from "how i met your mother"? embarrassed of her teen pop idol mall singing videos and all that?
Title: Re: Big Regret... I could use some examples.
Post by: CanRay on <05-13-12/1132:53>
So her Big Regret isn't the porn, but the Bubblegum Pop video she did trying to be a mainstream star before she went into porn? ;D
Of course.  Porn stars get more respect and moral support from their co-workers and managers.  They can look at themselves in the mirror better the next morning as well.
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Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-13-12/1145:31>
as well as more attention from their fans?
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Post by: Curmudgeon on <05-13-12/2128:46>
cur,
did you base the idea for that character off robin from "how i met your mother"? embarrassed of her teen pop idol mall singing videos and all that?

Wait, somebody on How I Met Your Mother is a porn star? Maybe I should watch that show.
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Post by: Overture on <05-13-12/2129:40>
as well as more attention from their fans?

Hey, one pop hit gets you fame for 15 minutes. A good disgusting trid? You'll be famous forever.
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Post by: CanRay on <05-13-12/2210:51>
Former/Current Tempo addict.
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Post by: JustADude on <05-14-12/0343:01>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-14-12/0752:54>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
It is, though it is the same as someone who has recovered from schizophrenia, or some other mental illness. Toxics aren't toxic for kicks, they're toxic because they're crazy.
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Post by: JustADude on <05-14-12/0827:45>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
It is, though it is the same as someone who has recovered from schizophrenia, or some other mental illness. Toxics aren't toxic for kicks, they're toxic because they're crazy.

Cool... so you essentially end up with a Havoc turning into a Voodoo practitioner (or whatever) that knows a couple Radiation-element Combat Spells?

Or they still be Havocs, but with a much more moderate world-view?
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Post by: All4BigGuns on <05-14-12/0959:08>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
It is, though it is the same as someone who has recovered from schizophrenia, or some other mental illness. Toxics aren't toxic for kicks, they're toxic because they're crazy.

I thought they were crazy because they were toxic.
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-14-12/1056:44>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
It is, though it is the same as someone who has recovered from schizophrenia, or some other mental illness. Toxics aren't toxic for kicks, they're toxic because they're crazy.

I thought they were crazy because they were toxic.
Chicken, egg.
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Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-14-12/1222:44>
similar to when my dad asked "what's up with the cat?"

"there's oxygen in the air, so the cats crazy."
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Post by: CanRay on <05-14-12/1303:50>
SURGEd/Goblinized former member of the Humanis Policlub.
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Post by: All4BigGuns on <05-14-12/1437:22>
A reformed Toxic Shaman... if that's even possible?
It is, though it is the same as someone who has recovered from schizophrenia, or some other mental illness. Toxics aren't toxic for kicks, they're toxic because they're crazy.

I thought they were crazy because they were toxic.
Chicken, egg.

Touche. I did half expect that response.
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Post by: Kontact on <05-18-12/0454:20>
Sometimes is not something that you did, but something that happened to you that makes you hard to trust.

Like, being from Yomi Island.  Sure, someone from Yomi would have had to do a lot of messed up stuff to get through it, but it's not just a single action that makes it bad for their rep.  Kinda like being a child soldier from africa or something.  It's not just one event, it's a whole upbringing.
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Post by: Mirikon on <05-18-12/0747:22>
I dunno. Someone who survived Yomi without getting infected or killed would be a grade A badass in pretty much anyone's book.
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Post by: CanRay on <05-20-12/0143:25>
Shameful parentage is a good example.

Like having a Father that worked for the Seattle Metroplex Guard in 2039.  ;D
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Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-20-12/0157:48>
being one of the "abandoned" sinseararch (sp?) elven families living south of seattle?