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Title: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-06-12/2314:41>
So, I'm looking to recreate a bounty hunter I had made when I first started Shadowrun.  His main premise is that he's a phys adept who concentrated on Missile Mastery.  To the point that a box of  100 toothpicks is enough ammo for him to take on a small Bug Hive.  Any suggestions for build?  When I made him the first time around he was vanilla human, sank his power points into Power Throw and Missile Mastery.  BP is 400.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: UmaroVI on <05-07-12/0700:15>
Take a look at my sig and the Former Neoprimitive. If you have access to Martial Arts, you should consider a martial art and the Iaijutsu manuever in place of Quickdraw.

Human doesn't work too well for a simple reason - it's tough to get enough DV for people to care about your improvised throwing weapons (since Power Throw is capped at 3). You really want to be a Troll or Ork.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-07-12/1343:38>
Uh, actually Power Throw as per Street Magic, isn't capped.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: Critias on <05-07-12/1406:24>
Uh, actually Power Throw as per Street Magic, isn't capped.
At the time SM came out, it wasn't.  It's a more recent decision.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-07-12/1415:40>
my group tends to go with RAW, so for the purposes of this chargen, it's uncapped.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1440:54>
It's an official errata.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-07-12/1454:36>
Which has been ignored.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: JustADude on <05-07-12/1748:40>
Which has been ignored.

No need to get hostile,  SwampFox. You just had to say you're HRing the rule back to the pre-errata version.

You need to understand, though, that what you're doing isn't RAW-Legal, which is what people were trying to let you know since you were talking about RAW CGen.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: All4BigGuns on <05-07-12/1814:17>
Not necessarily. For some RAW is what is actually in the books, ignoring the detritus put out separately like the often cried for errata. Some might even say WHINED for
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-07-12/2045:17>
Not necessarily. For some RAW is what is actually in the books, ignoring the detritus put out separately like the often cried for errata. Some might even say WHINED for
Exactly.  As it wasn't put out in any of the actual books so far as I and my group are aware, it doesn't count.  I also apologize for coming off as hostile.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <05-07-12/2249:48>
It's an official errata.
Which has been ignored.

don't mind me, i'm just lurking in the corner laughing about the whole progression.

and my wife is looking at me like i'm more nuts than normal. oh well.

Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: Crash_00 on <05-08-12/0155:20>
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Not necessarily. For some RAW is what is actually in the books, ignoring the detritus put out separately like the often cried for errata. Some might even say WHINED for

RAW is literally Rules as Written. There is not further requirement there. If it is an official written rule for the game, it is RAW. We aren't talking about the official FAQ that doesn't have the power to change things, we're talking about official RAW errata that can be found here (http://www.shadowrun4.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/sm_errata_v141.pdf).

Yes, you can ignore it. You can ignore any part of RAW. That is the entire purpose of house rules. You can't just say it's not RAW because you don't like it or it doesn't fit your build though.

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Exactly.  As it wasn't put out in any of the actual books so far as I and my group are aware, it doesn't count.  I also apologize for coming off as hostile.
The days of wasting pages in a book to print errata for previous books is pretty much dead. Companies release errata online now as PDFs. It isn't just this company, it's all of them. As I said, you group is fine to play without it, but keep in mine that if you decide to play missions or anything else that is RAW run, errata is 100% official RAW.
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-08-12/0206:05>
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Exactly.  As it wasn't put out in any of the actual books so far as I and my group are aware, it doesn't count.  I also apologize for coming off as hostile.
The days of wasting pages in a book to print errata for previous books is pretty much dead. Companies release errata online now as PDFs. It isn't just this company, it's all of them. As I said, you group is fine to play without it, but keep in mine that if you decide to play missions or anything else that is RAW run, errata is 100% official RAW.
Crash, I was not aware of Catalyst having released an errata pdf.  I thank you for the information.  Now could we please redirect this train back on the track of the actual build?
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: Critias on <05-08-12/1019:37>
I'm gonna try not to come off as too snarky here, but I'm really not sure what advice you want people to give you, 'Fox.  All you've told us is "he was totally badass at throwing things," and the powers he used to be that badass at throwing things.  You didn't give any other information about the character, his background, any other skills he has, what gear he carried besides a box of toothpicks, what contacts he had, etc, etc. 

My advice, based on the information we've gotten, would simply be "Yes, take those powers again, and remain badass at throwing things." 
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: Mason on <05-08-12/1207:50>
You'll want maxed strength and Agility, good Body, at least one other character specialty (like interrogating), and an adept contact that taught you what you know and can assist with later initiations. From there, just build a standard bounty hunter. Refer to the bounty hunter example character in the core rulebook for ideas. Trolls are best at throwing, but with adept abilities it makes little difference. 2 damage per strike doesn't matter when Power Throw isn't capped, you can still wind up doing 10P with toothpicks. Plus, with your other PP you can augment strength for 1 more damage, even though that is a terrible waste, or for less waste you can get Muscle augmentation and toner for some of your Essence (and thus Magic).
Title: Re: looking to re-create an old character
Post by: SwampFox on <05-10-12/2135:01>
Thanks Mason.

And if I could I'd give you guys a link to the old sheet, but it got deleted a while back, so I'm afraid I'm a bit fuzzy on the details behind his build.