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Title: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-04-10/2129:47>
(Let me know if I'm stepping on any toes or crossing any lines, I don't mean to offend or bring up 'touchy' subjects)

I know SoLA is officially off the books. And, yes, Ancient History's posted the drafts for the book here (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=22.0). This thread's not to rehash all that happened that brought this about, but I'd like to know if any of the the items listed in the drafts are considered to have happened and may be touched upon in future projects, or if they were written off completely (never to be mentioned again) or somewhere in the nebulous grey area between the two.

For instance, has The Gingerbread Man fallen victim to the Bermuda triangle?
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/2131:37>
Corp Guide, 6WA, and I believe some of the upcoming WAR book will talk about somethings from SoLA and make some of it canon.  Offhand however, I don't have a list of what has been made canon... I'm sure there will be someone bored enough to make that list :D
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: MJBurrage on <09-06-10/0031:57>
There are more Shadows of Latin America files than just Ancient History's.


Many, many, many thanks to all of the authors. :)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-06-10/0146:59>
There are more Shadows of Latin America files than just Ancient History's.

SoLA links (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=31114&view=findpost&p=963073) at Dumpshock.
Yeah, I have those as well. I was just wondering the 'official' nature of the files.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: MJBurrage on <09-06-10/0159:57>
My post was more directed to future readers of the thread who might not be aware of the Dumpshock thread.

Since the SoLA material has not been published by a license holder it is unofficial.

IMHO, the fact that the material was once commissioned by a license holder makes it apocryphal, rather than just fan material.  I.E. unless directly contradicted it's official enough for me.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: PeterSmith on <09-06-10/1409:26>
Yeah, I have those as well. I was just wondering the 'official' nature of the files.

Since they were never released by Catalyst I would say they're fan material.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-06-10/1801:01>
Yeah, I have those as well. I was just wondering the 'official' nature of the files.

Since they were never released by Catalyst I would say they're fan material.

For now Fan material I've seen things never released with offical rules that never saw the light of day so are fan rules now if you have them.

But somethings do get made cannon so some of SoLA may one day be good to go.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: DarkLloyd on <09-08-10/0342:45>
LoL. The CMP's this year taught me all I wanted to know about the SoLA; that i never really want to go there again. So no prob for me if it never comes out. ::)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-08-10/0501:03>
Ah c'mon, whats so bad about contries where some awakened leaf can kill you? ;)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-08-10/0920:04>
Ah c'mon, whats so bad about contries where some awakened leaf can kill you? ;)
Nothing... as long as you don't use that leaf when going to the bathroom. ;)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Jadehellbringer on <09-08-10/0924:56>
Ah c'mon, whats so bad about contries where some awakened leaf can kill you? ;)
Nothing... as long as you don't use that leaf when going to the bathroom. ;)

That's what pinecones are for, sirrah.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-08-10/0936:32>
Awakened forms of Hemorrhoids... the horror... the horror...
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-08-10/1708:36>
LoL. The CMP's this year taught me all I wanted to know about the SoLA; that i never really want to go there again. So no prob for me if it never comes out. ::)

Goes to gather as much info on Latin america so as to run a home game for DL and company.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: DarkLloyd on <09-08-10/2326:10>
Keep pushin that "Gibbs" level there bucko....... ;)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-08-10/2348:34>
Keep pushin that "Gibbs" level there bucko....... ;)
Some things I found over on Deviant Art
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/112/3/9/Gibbs_Slap_Icon__by_xDarkSonicx.gif)

The attached is from ~Saisoto's gallery (http://ncis-fans.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2v9ufe)

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Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-09-10/0049:15>
Epicness.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-09-10/0050:34>
Keep pushin that "Gibbs" level there bucko....... ;)

Heh one Gibbs to me is 100 Gibbs to your character .....At the wrong time! :P
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-09-10/0846:58>
Epicness.
I try to live my life like Gibbs.

... if Gibbs were a 37-year-old Web Developer with asthma. :P
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-09-10/1001:37>
Epicness.
I try to live my life like Gibbs.

... if Gibbs were a 37-year-old Web Developer with asthma. :P

Every front needs its soldiers. Gibbs has nightmares and a guilt trip, you have asthma. Heroes stay heroes nevertheless :)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-09-10/1039:40>
Guys, lets try and keep on topic folks...
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-09-10/1122:04>
Guys, lets try and keep on topic folks...
Right. Sorry 'bout that.

So, I noticed in the three "Location" books (Corporate Enclaves, Feral Cities, and Runner's Havens), the South American cities were mentioned only in the 'minor' leagues. Will we get a location sourcebook that will have a South American cities surveyed in depth?
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-09-10/1124:44>
I'd like that. Besides killer leafs, there is just so much down there to play with. Amazonia, Yucatan, all the other countries and their landscape and drug cartels and drug cartel wars, oil fields, etc etc etc.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-09-10/1700:45>
Heh so whats left of the olympic area down there now that we know the olyimpcs are going to be held in south america.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: JM_Hardy on <09-09-10/2058:55>
Guys, lets try and keep on topic folks...
Right. Sorry 'bout that.

So, I noticed in the three "Location" books (Corporate Enclaves, Feral Cities, and Runner's Havens), the South American cities were mentioned only in the 'minor' leagues. Will we get a location sourcebook that will have a South American cities surveyed in depth?

War! provides major focus on Bogota.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: FastJack on <09-09-10/2114:49>
Guys, lets try and keep on topic folks...
Right. Sorry 'bout that.

So, I noticed in the three "Location" books (Corporate Enclaves, Feral Cities, and Runner's Havens), the South American cities were mentioned only in the 'minor' leagues. Will we get a location sourcebook that will have a South American cities surveyed in depth?

War! provides major focus on Bogota.

Jason H.
Have we told you how much we appreciate you lately?
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: JM_Hardy on <09-09-10/2145:50>
Have we told you how much we appreciate you lately?

You're too kind. I only do it because I appreciate all of you. So there!

Jason H.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-10-10/0618:08>
Thanks for the teaser Jason.......Now I want more  ;D
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: The Masked Ferret on <09-10-10/1446:28>
Bogata is nasty - some of the information was ...previewed... In one of the CMPs for this year. The place is in bad shape, let me tell you. Going there for a vacation would be a bad thing to do in character.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-10-10/1742:07>
So in other words as a GM send your players there NOW!  ;D
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Dead Monky on <09-10-10/1819:52>
I've been wanting to dump my players in a feral city.  Now I just need some contrived assed reason to do it.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Casazil on <09-10-10/1823:49>
Dawn of the Artifacts! first up Lagos
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Jadehellbringer on <09-13-10/1017:35>
I've been wanting to dump my players in a feral city.  Now I just need some contrived assed reason to do it.

The lame way is to have Mr. Johnson send them to recover a protoype item from an aircraft that was brought down by a SAM over, say, Bogota. First priority is to find the crash site, and after finding it (and clearing it of hostiles), try to determine where the item was taken... and you're off to the races in a rough part of the world, with a reason to be here. Sort of a lame premise, but it gives you that excuse to be here, and can be modified a number of ways to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Dead Monky on <09-21-10/1351:25>
The lame way is to have Mr. Johnson send them to recover a protoype item from an aircraft that was brought down by a SAM over, say, Bogota. First priority is to find the crash site, and after finding it (and clearing it of hostiles), try to determine where the item was taken... and you're off to the races in a rough part of the world, with a reason to be here. Sort of a lame premise, but it gives you that excuse to be here, and can be modified a number of ways to make it more interesting.
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True.  I was trying to come up with a decent reason, but screw it.  I'll just use yours.  My group usually doesn't complain when they spot a lame excuse, stolen idea, or contrived plot device (which is whenever I use one.  I steal plots from games, books, and movies all the time.)  They tend to be less concerned with the actual plot and more concerned with how many holes they can shoot or explode in things.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: JongWK on <12-15-10/2221:37>
Crime in Latin America (http://www.box.net/shared/pke1n6dyts) available for download now. As with the previously released SoLA files, feel free to use for non-commercial purposes.

MJBurrage, you might want to update your DS post (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=31114&view=findpost&p=963073).  :)


Merry Xmas everyone.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: MJBurrage on <12-16-10/1904:11>
Many thanks, links updated:


Many, many, many thanks to all of the authors. :)
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: fexes on <12-29-11/1614:52>
Shadows of Latin America - v1.1 (PDF - 82.9 MB)
http://www.fexes.de/downloads/Shadows_of_Latin_America_v1-2.pdf (http://www.fexes.de/downloads/Shadows_of_Latin_America_v1-2.pdf) (highres PDF - 91.5 MB)
http://www.fexes.de/downloads/Shadows_of_Latin_America_v1-2-1.pdf (http://www.fexes.de/downloads/Shadows_of_Latin_America_v1-2-1.pdf) (lowres PDF - 22 MB)

Edit: Map of Ecuador included; Credits included.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Claíomh on <12-30-11/2157:49>
Great collection of the SoLA files, thanks a lot, Fexes.

And of course, thanks to all who contributed in the first place.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Crimsondude on <12-30-11/2317:18>
The only thing that I know of that appeared in my material and in the discarded SoLA drafts are the Tigersharks from the Caribbean League material Jay Levine wrote. I recall reading that section only because it was Jay's and it was the Carib. However, since the Tigersharks were originally fan material written in 1994 or '95 by a friend of mine on Shadowland (Jay's inclusion was an homage to that and slightly altered), the fact that it was in SoLA counts for nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Shadows of Latin America
Post by: Mason on <12-31-11/0406:51>
My post was more directed to future readers of the thread who might not be aware of the Dumpshock thread.

Since the SoLA material has not been published by a license holder it is unofficial.

IMHO, the fact that the material was once commissioned by a license holder makes it apocryphal, rather than just fan material.  I.E. unless directly contradicted it's official enough for me.

And thank you. I was unaware I was missing them. Soon, my collection will be complete!