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Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: qurahn on <09-12-12/0353:51>
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I am reading this right?
found on SR4 319
HK XM30: This award-winning modular “weapons platform”
can turn a single soldier into a one-man army. The baseline assault rifle
features lightweight composite construction, a smartgun system, rigid
stock with shock pad, and an underbarrel grenade launcher with grenade
link. The weapon may be reassembled with optional modules—
taking an Automatics + Agility (5, 1 minute) Extended Test to swap
them in—into either an underbarrel shotgun, compact carbine, sniper
rifle (with an imaging scope), or LMG (with bipod) configuration.
underbarrel grenade launcher and underbarrel shotgun?!!?
I could ideally put a Exchangeable Weapon Modification either one or both?
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no, you rebuild it into a diferent module depending on what you want to rock with, it doesnt have both at the same time. given the time it takes to re-configure it, you wont be doing it in combat!
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On the bright side, you won't need three or four assault rifles to do the same job for different runs!
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maybe not during combat, but during a run is still possible, just realize, you're carrying all the excess parts you plan to use with you the whole time.
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no, you rebuild it into a diferent module depending on what you want to rock with, it doesnt have both at the same time. given the time it takes to re-configure it, you wont be doing it in combat!
Bummer. There was a reason i was asking about this weapon.
The plan was I was thinking about was putting a Exchangeable Weapon Modification on both the underbarrel grenade launcher and underbarrel shotgun.
Next I was going to a powered slide mount on both the main rifle HK XM30 rifle and HK XM30 LMG(with bipod) configuration. This was to allow the HK XM30 LMG(minus the bipod) rock with the underbarrel grenade launcher and allow to put the underbarrel shotgun on the HK XM30 rifle.
Oh well. :(
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Love the XM8 series, my second favourite gun after the HK G36C.
The XM30 seems to be the further development of the concept here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OICW , in particular:
HK XM29 OICW - a 20mm grenade launcher with an underslung assault carbine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM29_OICW
XM25 CDTE - aka "The Punisher", further development of XM29. 25mm grenade launcher with airburst mode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE
XM8 - "modular" rifle, converts between barrel length and chambering with relative ease. Sorta complementary to XM25. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM8_rifle
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Love the XM8 series, my second favourite gun after the HK G36C.
The XM30 seems to be the further development of the concept here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OICW , in particular:
HK XM29 OICW - a 20mm grenade launcher with an underslung assault carbine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM29_OICW
XM25 CDTE - aka "The Punisher", further development of XM29. 25mm grenade launcher with airburst mode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE
XM8 - "modular" rifle, converts between barrel length and chambering with relative ease. Sorta complementary to XM25. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM8_rifle
aw man looking at these gives me goose bumps hehe. Especially the XM29 with the HE airburst ammo & under-slung assault rifle.
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The plan was I was thinking about was putting a Exchangeable Weapon Modification on both the underbarrel grenade launcher and underbarrel shotgun.
Next I was going to a powered slide mount on both the main rifle HK XM30 rifle and HK XM30 LMG(with bipod) configuration. This was to allow the HK XM30 LMG(minus the bipod) rock with the underbarrel grenade launcher and allow to put the underbarrel shotgun on the HK XM30 rifle.
Powered Slide Mount for secondary weapons is something that always requires GM approval, but if the GM will let you, there is no reason to feel forced to the XM30. The Shotgun on the XM30 is one of the worse ones in the game (+1 AP instead of -1).
One of my players has taken an FN-HAR and uses powered slide mount to move between a single barrel Elephant Rifle (Underbarrel Weapon Mod halves ammunition) loaded with APDS for penetration, a drum fed HV SMG for suppressive spray, and an Enfield AS-7 for breaching. The same character uses a HK-227 X that has swappable Dart Pistol and Fichetti Executive Action underbarrel weapons for it. He keeps the Fichetti loaded up with Stick-N-Shock for taking down guards and the Dart Pistol with Narcojet for heavy hitters like Trolls That shrug off the taze with ease.
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On the subject of Underbarrel weapons:
Who needs to breach with a shotgun when you can breach with an Assault Cannon?
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Who needs to breach with a shotgun when you can breach with an Assault Cannon?
Someone who doesn't have "Heavy Weapons" but does have "Longarms"?
EDIT: Now, who needs to breech with a firearm of any type when you can breech with a Troll? ;D
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Who needs to breach with a shotgun when you can breach with an Assault Cannon?
Someone who doesn't have "Heavy Weapons" but does have "Longarms"?
EDIT: Now, who needs to breech with a firearm of any type when you can breech with a Troll? ;D
Yeahhhh, gotta agree with that. Troll+Desire to get on the other side of the wall= Doorway
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
Then stop thinking small! 5kg of rating 14 explosives... THAT'S a door! :P
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
Then stop thinking small! 5kg of rating 14 explosives... THAT'S a door! :P
Reminds me of the one troll I played in third that kept 20 kg of rating 12 explosives wired to him in case he was ever tazed. ::)
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
Then stop thinking small! 5kg of rating 14 explosives... THAT'S a door! :P
Reminds me of the one troll I played in third that kept 20 kg of rating 12 explosives wired to him in case he was ever tazed. ::)
...Yeah, I can kind of see that working. For a given value of 'working', of course.
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
heh, a concussion grenade, some duct tape, and 550 cord. the grenade already has a det cap. tape grenade to door handle, tie cord to ring on straightened pin.
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DetCord, how to remove problems really really really fast! ;D
'Course, I grew up in a mining town, DetCord was sometimes used to "Chop Down" Christmas Trees. ;D
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Who needs any of those things to breach when you have an HE grenade, a detonator cap, some adhesive and 1 rank of Demolitions?
If you're making a door, you might as well make a big one. ;D
heh, a concussion grenade, some duct tape, and 550 cord. the grenade already has a det cap. tape grenade to door handle, tie cord to ring on straightened pin.
Okay, real quick, it's "duck" tape, not "duct" tape. It got its name because it's waterproof, referencing "like water off a duck's back".
Secondly... who needs the tape and cord? Use a gecko grenade with a motion-trigger added on. Slap it, activate it, and go. ;)
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who needs the tape and cord? Use a gecko grenade with a motion-trigger added on. Slap it, activate it, and go. ;)
People on a budget.
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Then stop thinking small! 5kg of rating 14 explosives... THAT'S a door! :P
Nah. Why waste seven grand on a single explosion when you can use eleven HE grenades and get the same BOOM for a fraction the price? Or spend that same 7,000 to get 200 grenades and make a bomb that will level the whole block?
(Seriously, the price per power of the plastic exposives makes them entirely impractical versus just wiring detonators to grenades and mortars. It's a real flaw in the rules.)
heh, a concussion grenade, some duct tape, and 550 cord. the grenade already has a det cap. tape grenade to door handle, tie cord to ring on straightened pin.
In SR4 the detonator comes with wireless for remote detonation, for those us who like a little more control over when things explode. 8)
Okay, real quick, it's "duck" tape, not "duct" tape. It got its name because it's waterproof, referencing "like water off a duck's back".
It was, but they actually changed the name in the 1950s, and it's been trademarked under both names.
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I like duct tape.
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It's duct tape. Early versions used cotton duck as a backing, but that was just one type of duct tape.
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It's both. "duck" and "duct" tape are common usage.
And remember to tamp the door breaching charge with a bag of water.
-k
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i know a guy whose fave toy is to tamp his shots with expired saline bags,,the prime charge being det cord with several uli knots tied in it, one for each hinge and on for the door knob. knob gets tamped, others are for cutting. done right, the door is disconnected from the frame and shattered into small parts.
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Cheap and effective! ;D
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Bummer. There was a reason i was asking about this weapon.
The plan was I was thinking about was putting a Exchangeable Weapon Modification on both the underbarrel grenade launcher and underbarrel shotgun.
Next I was going to a powered slide mount on both the main rifle HK XM30 rifle and HK XM30 LMG(with bipod) configuration. This was to allow the HK XM30 LMG(minus the bipod) rock with the underbarrel grenade launcher and allow to put the underbarrel shotgun on the HK XM30 rifle.
Oh well. :(
Your making this way too complicated, i don't see anything in it rules that would stop you from assembling it so that the LMG has a ub-grenade launcher attached or for example attaching the ub-shotgun to the sniper rifle configuration.
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You have to think of the XM30 as basically a Lego gun. You can take it apart and swap out the pieces to make the particular configuration of gun that you want.
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You have to think of the XM30 as basically a Lego gun. You can take it apart and swap out the pieces to make the particular configuration of gun that you want.
Just don't put the wrong pieces together at the wrong time, otherwise you'll end up needing a new shoulder like Wedge.
Luckily, he liked his new shoulder better.
*Pours of 40 on the curb*