Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: JDDyslexia on <10-05-12/1451:36>
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Hi everyone,
I need a suggestion for a vehicle. I have a large Shadowrunner team (about 10-12 people) and I'm looking for the right vehicle to navigate the Seattle city streets. I know two vehicles is an option (and we've been doing that thus far), but I'm looking for a vehicle large enough to carry everyone comfortably (and obviously with some room for gun ports 8)). Any suggestions from the board?
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The Ford-Canada Buffalo RV. Just upgrade the Amenities and you should be golden.
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Pick up Used Car Lot and use the Rolls Royce Prairie Cat. Better amenities at a base than the Buffalo, and it has a built-in capability for the Hacker to use satellites from it to do his thing.
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See, I was debating picking up Used Car Lot, but the last series of PDFs all got rolled into Runner's Black Book with some extra stuff. They're probably going to do this again.
But I'll see if anybody I know picked it up yet and take a look at it. Thanks!
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A decommisioned Lone Star Black Mariah, purchaced at a police auction by the team face, and refurbished to have gun ports added in and most of the prisoner restraints removed.
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The Conestoga Vista is actually a really good vehicle. It has a very high body, and thus lots of room for mods and is quite tough. If you care about being subtle, it's a bus - who's going to look all that closely? It also has enough space to mount concealed armor and good concealed weapons because of the high body.
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See, I was debating picking up Used Car Lot, but the last series of PDFs all got rolled into Runner's Black Book with some extra stuff. They're probably going to do this again.
But I'll see if anybody I know picked it up yet and take a look at it. Thanks!
Runner's Black Book 2074 will have LESS stuff than the PDFs this time, as Euro War Antiques will have more in it on PDF.
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See, I was debating picking up Used Car Lot, but the last series of PDFs all got rolled into Runner's Black Book with some extra stuff. They're probably going to do this again.
But I'll see if anybody I know picked it up yet and take a look at it. Thanks!
Runner's Black Book 2074 will have LESS stuff than the PDFs this time, as Euro War Antiques will have more in it on PDF.
Say, off topic but...
Do you think that Catalyst will ever publish a PDF with all the extra stuff Runner's Black Book had? Like a Little Black Book?
That would be pretty nice of them to do, giving all the people who couldn't get Runner's Black Book a chance to see the extras, as well as for all the people who had bought the other PDFs before it came out... :)
(waiting patently for Catalyst to take the hint)
...crud... ;)
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10-12 members on the team? Use seperate vehicles, no more than 3 or 4 people in a vehicle. On long trips, seperate yourselves by at least half a mile.
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10-12 members on the team? Use seperate vehicles, no more than 3 or 4 people in a vehicle. On long trips, seperate yourselves by at least half a mile.
Make the karaoke singing troll drive alone.
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The Conestoga Vista is actually a really good vehicle. It has a very high body, and thus lots of room for mods and is quite tough. If you care about being subtle, it's a bus - who's going to look all that closely? It also has enough space to mount concealed armor and good concealed weapons because of the high body.
Why bother with concealed?
There are plenty of armored buses floating around in the more unstable-but-industrialized parts of the real world right now and, from what I understand, the typical streets on the Sixth World tends to be at least as dangerous as a Central American banana republic or an ex-Soviet splinter nation.
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Because those obviously-armored vehicles still draw the attention of cops of whatever stripe. The idea (with a vehicle with concealable armor) is so that the cop goes 'oh, another damn tour bus' and looks past it. Unless, of course, you're a Pink Mohawk with the cops bothering you only if you're in the active commission of a crime ...
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You know, you could always take the Greyhound...
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You know, you could always take the Greyhound...
By "take", I assume you mean "Hijack". ;)
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You know, you could always take the Greyhound...
By "take", I assume you mean "Hijack". ;)
"Take this bus to San Diego!!!" "Um... Our last stop is in San Diego." "Oh... It is? Sorry." "Damned cosplayers. Every time I get this fragging route."
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You know, you could always take the Greyhound...
By "take", I assume you mean "Hijack". ;)
"Take this bus to San Diego!!!" "Um... Our last stop is in San Diego." "Oh... It is? Sorry." "Damned cosplayers. Every time I get this fragging route."
BEST SHADOWRUN ALIBI EVER.
No security corp officer would look twice at a bunch of nerds dressed up as anime/manga/videogame/sci-fi trid show characters during the convention seasons. Hell, if you "forget" to peacebond your weapon (melee only, though), you cover story could be that you forgot, or you just act like such an fan about it that it "wouldn't fit the character" or that "I wanted to show off how realistic my prop is".
...Well, maybe not a good alibi, but it does sound like the base idea of a fun shadowrun. :D
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Well, Kane and Kat actually did that in one of the pieces of fiction, dressing as a bounty hunter and jedi to get into San Diego during a con. I believe it was in one of the PDF books. Perhaps CanRay would be kind enough as to mention which one. ;)
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Well, Kane and Kat actually did that in one of the pieces of fiction, dressing as a bounty hunter and jedi to get into San Diego during a con. I believe it was in one of the PDF books. Perhaps CanRay would be kind enough as to mention which one. ;)
Clonetrooper, actually, not Bounty Hunter.
I can't quite remember which book that was, however...
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Well, Kane and Kat actually did that in one of the pieces of fiction, dressing as a bounty hunter and jedi to get into San Diego during a con. I believe it was in one of the PDF books. Perhaps CanRay would be kind enough as to mention which one. ;)
Clonetrooper, actually, not Bounty Hunter.
I can't quite remember which book that was, however...
... :o
CanRay's been replaced by a robot, guys! There's no way that he would forget which books he worked on! He's a fake, A FAKE I TELL YOU!!! HEEEEE'SSS AAAAA FFFFFAAAAAKKKKKEEEEE!!!!!!!
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I agree, we must kill him until he tells us where the real CanRay is, and then kill him some more. :)
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I agree, we must kill him until he tells us where the real CanRay is, and then kill him some more. :)
Seconded.
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Anyway, as an attempt to get this back on topic... ::)
Looking at Used Car Lot and Arsenal, you could try making a sort of mobile fortress using an 18 wheeler with a trailer as a sort of base template, maybe the Zuggsmaschine in Arsenal (pg 111), or the Trailblazer in Used Car Lot (pg 23). You could put concealed gun ports all over the trailer and armor the outside, and possibly place a remote controlled turret or two on top, controlled by a second rigger in the cab.
You could go the Go-Ganger route and just tell them to pick out a motorcycle that they would like to have, with two custom mods each under 10,000 nuyen each.
Have you considered a boat instead? A yacht could handle a large party, if your players somehow ponied up the cash. Failing that, a pair of utility watercraft...
Failing that, you could try to cut down on your party to two separate teams. I hate to say this, but are you sure about GMing a ten to twelve person team? It would seem that combat would get bogged down awful quick which would bore the people who were hoping for a roleplay-over-rollplay experience, and that the chances to focus on story or details would be problematic with the opposite group if they just want to kill stuff and get loot.
Regardless, there you go. Hope this game works out for you!
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Have you considered a boat instead? A yacht could handle a large party, if your players somehow ponied up the cash. Failing that, a pair of utility watercraft...
Or a pair of skidoos on the yacht. Full of beautiful rich people there for a different type of "party", and giving the group a great cover (Bodyguards.).
They'll probably even bring their own Novacoke to share!
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Failing that, you could try to cut down on your party to two separate teams. I hate to say this, but are you sure about GMing a ten to twelve person team? It would seem that combat would get bogged down awful quick which would bore the people who were hoping for a roleplay-over-rollplay experience, and that the chances to focus on story or details would be problematic with the opposite group if they just want to kill stuff and get loot.
Regardless, there you go. Hope this game works out for you!
You don't roleplay during your combat? That's diffrent from how it happens for us then, at least ^^
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Failing that, you could try to cut down on your party to two separate teams. I hate to say this, but are you sure about GMing a ten to twelve person team? It would seem that combat would get bogged down awful quick which would bore the people who were hoping for a roleplay-over-rollplay experience, and that the chances to focus on story or details would be problematic with the opposite group if they just want to kill stuff and get loot.
Regardless, there you go. Hope this game works out for you!
You don't roleplay during your combat? That's diffrent from how it happens for us then, at least ^^
Well, there's only so much roleplay you can do in Combat Time. Assuming 10 Players with 3 IPs each, and a brisk 1 minute per player per IP, you're taking 10 minutes real-time per in-game second just for the PC actions.
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You don't roleplay during your combat? That's diffrent from how it happens for us then, at least ^^
Well, there's only so much roleplay you can do in Combat Time. Assuming 10 Players with 3 IPs each, and a brisk 1 minute per player per IP, you're taking 10 minutes real-time per in-game second just for the PC actions.
Can't argue with that ^^
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talking is a free action ;D
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You don't roleplay during your combat? That's diffrent from how it happens for us then, at least ^^
We try to have the melodramatic death speeches after combat ends. THEN comes the angsty, anime-esque weepy boo-hoo stuff. ;D
Even have a house rule saying you can burn Edge to make an overly dramatic dying speech after combat ends, in order to give your leftover Edge to your surviving teammates.
talking is a free action ;D
Up to a point. ::)
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You don't roleplay during your combat? That's diffrent from how it happens for us then, at least ^^
We try to have the melodramatic death speeches after combat ends. THEN comes the angsty, anime-esque weepy boo-hoo stuff. ;D
Even have a house rule saying you can burn Edge to make an overly dramatic dying speech after combat ends, in order to give your leftover Edge to your surviving teammates.
Um, why don't you just burn edge to Hand Of God and survive?
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Um, why don't you just burn edge to Hand Of God and survive?
Because it's just as much about the story, and it's the perfect ending to theirs maybe?
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Um, why don't you just burn edge to Hand Of God and survive?
Because it's just as much about the story, and it's the perfect ending to theirs maybe?
Pretty much this. We're silly like that. ;D
Plus, the guy who did it had to leave for college soon after. That was his last game, and he wanted to go out with a bang.
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Um, why don't you just burn edge to Hand Of God and survive?
Because it's just as much about the story, and it's the perfect ending to theirs maybe?
Pretty much this. We're silly like that. ;D
Plus, the guy who did it had to leave for college soon after. That was his last game, and he wanted to go out with a bang.
Ah, well, that makes sense then. ;)
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Um, why don't you just burn edge to Hand Of God and survive?
Because it's just as much about the story, and it's the perfect ending to theirs maybe?
Pretty much this. We're silly like that. ;D
Plus, the guy who did it had to leave for college soon after. That was his last game, and he wanted to go out with a bang.
Ah, well, that makes sense then. ;)
Yeah, one of his dying comments was something like "YOURS IS THE HIGHLY ILLEGAL, OVERLY MODIFIED PANTHER XXL ASSULT CANNON WITH EXTENDED CLIP AND BURSTFIRE CAPABILITIES THAT WILL PIERCE THE AZTECHNOLOGY CYBERZOMBIES!"
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"OH, YEAH, AND THE HEAVENS. CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE HEAVENS."
Pink Mohawk all the way. ALL THE WAY. ;D
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Large transport vehicle? Oh a heaven sent opportunity to mention my undying love for the cartel courier again. It can carry 6 tonnes according to the fluff. Now I just need to decide if semi submersible means it can go a limited depth underwater or its just a boat with a hat. is 6 tons enough space for a nanoforge? 8)
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Well, tons aren't a measure of space, so who knows? :P
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Well, tons aren't a measure of space, so why knows? :P
Actually it can be. Traveler starships are measured in tons of displaced hydrogen, which is a measure of volume rather than mass.
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ahh old Traveller 1.5m x3m twice was a ton 8). Been a while.
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Well, tons aren't a measure of space, so why knows? :P
Actually it can be. Traveler starships are measured in tons of displaced hydrogen, which is a measure of volume rather than mass.
Thanks for contributing to my daily dose of learning for today! ^^
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Thank you everyone for the suggestions. The Praire Cat ended up winning out, but knowing this group, that vehicle will probably get destroyed in Chicago.
As for such a large group, it's currently 9 PCs and 2 rotating NPCs (the hackers, one AI one technomancer). And while combats can be a bit slow going, the overall flow is going pretty well. It's just a matter of keeping the people at the table on track with the game.
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So, herding cats then? Least, that's the way it is at the tables I play at...and I am usually one of the worst offenders at instigating OOC silliness.
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The Praire Cat ended up winning out, but knowing this group, that vehicle will probably get destroyed in Chicago.
...YES, IT WILL.
Not even accounting what the group is like, that Prairie Cat is doomed. You're talking about bringing a ROLLS ROYCE LUXURY VEHICLE into Chicago. I expect (and am hoping for future stories of) a lot of wacky hijinks involving the locals trying to steal the transport and bringing it to one of the factions that controls part of the city.
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... or just getting the hell out of Chicago and selling it for startup money in, I dunno, Cincinnati...