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Title: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Redmercury on <10-07-12/0944:11>
What do y'all think of a bola launcher? Would that be best represented by taking the grenade launcher rules? I'm thinking an over the shoulder cannon with a small clip.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: rasmusnicolaj on <10-07-12/1048:44>
Technically a bola could be 2-3 grenades linked and thrown. Something should make them seperate and spin about but it could work in the same way as a burst from a grenade launcher.
And then use HE grenades to give your target an exploding neck-tie.

I actually think Q demonstrate that for 007 in one of the newer films.

Rasmus
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Redmercury on <10-07-12/1102:08>
You hit spot on with what I was going for. Something like repeated electric pulse bolas could be cool too, although after thinking about it afterwards I'd be better off just using a grenade launcher with sticky grenades. It's cheaper and more reliable. Grenade bolas just sounded so cyberpunk though.

Also, are there any shock grenades?
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: JustADude on <10-07-12/1217:54>
If I recall correctly, there's already an Underbarrel Bolo Launcher in the books. I'm out of the house right now though, so I can't look up the exact book.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-07-12/1224:07>
Arsenal, in the weapon add on section after they show off the new guns, page 33. There is also a highly illegal monofiliment wire version of that weapon on page 41, costing 2,500 nuyen and having a 16F availability rating, if you are twisted enough to use it. :D

Comment edited due to proper information. ;)
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Mirikon on <10-07-12/1249:16>
What do y'all think of a bola launcher?
I am suddenly reminded of the double-barreled cannon from the civil war. Except instead of bolas, you had a pair of cannonballs with a heavy iron chain linking them.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: CanRay on <10-07-12/1449:58>
I am suddenly reminded of the double-barreled cannon from the civil war. Except instead of bolas, you had a pair of cannonballs with a heavy iron chain linking them.
Chainshot, it was used in navies the world over long before the US Civil War.

I see the Bolas Launders being similar to a crossbow, drawn very tightly then snapped forward launching the two spheres at the target.  It's great as a capture/incapacitation device for non-lethal captures.  Like bounty hunting.  Get 'em wrapped around the legs as they're running and laugh as they faceplant.

Yes, I know that makes them look like a Bowcaster from Star Wars, you got a problem with Chewie?
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Redmercury on <10-07-12/1517:05>
Dear lordlessness I want a troll with a double barrel cannon with chain shot. He'll have to dress like this.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/ALadysRuminations/LordNelson.jpg)
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: farothel on <10-07-12/1556:05>
Arsenal, in the weapon add on section after they show off the new guns. There is also a highly illegal monofiliment wire version of that weapon, if you are twisted enough to use it. :D

It's shadowrun, of course there are people twisted enough to use this.  It would be fun to see them critical glitch with it though. :o
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Redmercury on <10-07-12/1611:34>
Arsenal, in the weapon add on section after they show off the new guns. There is also a highly illegal monofiliment wire version of that weapon, if you are twisted enough to use it. :D

It's shadowrun, of course there are people twisted enough to use this.  It would be fun to see them critical glitch with it though. :o
"Oops it looks like you loaded that wrong. Woah hey! Is that your hand?"  Considering that it's an exotic weapon I'd opt out of being that kind of "twisted" unless I had a fat Agility score.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-07-12/1925:53>
Arsenal, in the weapon add on section after they show off the new guns. There is also a highly illegal monofiliment wire version of that weapon, if you are twisted enough to use it. :D

It's shadowrun, of course there are people twisted enough to use this.  It would be fun to see them critical glitch with it though. :o
"Oops it looks like you loaded that wrong. Woah hey! Is that your hand?"  Considering that it's an exotic weapon I'd opt out of being that kind of "twisted" unless I had a fat Agility score.

You forgot that the plain old regular bolas are also considered an exotic weapon. The positive news is that if you are skilled in Exotic Ranged Weapon: Underbarrel Bola Launcher, you can use either variation with the same skill. Also remember that you could use monowire climbing gloves whenever you load in the lethal version.

Use this infomation with a song in your heart, friend, for now you can choose how painfully the large will fall. ;)
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Exodus on <10-08-12/2140:48>
I am suddenly reminded of the double-barreled cannon from the civil war. Except instead of bolas, you had a pair of cannonballs with a heavy iron chain linking them.
Chainshot, it was used in navies the world over long before the US Civil War.

I see the Bolas Launders being similar to a crossbow, drawn very tightly then snapped forward launching the two spheres at the target.  It's great as a capture/incapacitation device for non-lethal captures.  Like bounty hunting.  Get 'em wrapped around the legs as they're running and laugh as they faceplant.

Yes, I know that makes them look like a Bowcaster from Star Wars, you got a problem with Chewie?

You get half credit for that one CanRay. The double barreled cannon is a civil war weapon, it sucked at its' job and is now located in Athens, Georgia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barreled_cannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barreled_cannon)

However, chain shot is used as you described.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Unahim on <10-09-12/0635:20>
From the description of its test firings, I say that sounds amazing. Fire ten of those at an advancing army, see what happens ^^
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Mirikon on <10-09-12/0642:16>
Not practical in the civil war, but there is potential with modern technology.

Hmm, a double-barreled assault cannon...
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Exodus on <10-09-12/1148:56>
From the description of its test firings, I say that sounds amazing. Fire ten of those at an advancing army, see what happens ^^
Imagine the disaster if one of a pair doesn't go off or misfires?

Since tech is crazy awesome in shadowrun I've always assumed mono-bolas had a reel system inside one of the balls so you didn't have to worry about getting sliced up while carrying them. Sort of like the monowhip having a weighted ball on one end and the wire stored in the handle when not in use.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <10-09-12/1608:19>
simple answer (considering tech of SR): shotgun load of 2 med weights with a meter of monofilament line connecting, contained within shotgun shell. might be restricted to specially modified shotguns as the round would be longer than normal, or only usable in break-action guns, per GM decision.

available at all hardware stores in the Yard and Garden Dept.

Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Unahim on <10-11-12/0548:36>
From the description of its test firings, I say that sounds amazing. Fire ten of those at an advancing army, see what happens ^^
Imagine the disaster if one of a pair doesn't go off or misfires?

Since tech is crazy awesome in shadowrun I've always assumed mono-bolas had a reel system inside one of the balls so you didn't have to worry about getting sliced up while carrying them. Sort of like the monowhip having a weighted ball on one end and the wire stored in the handle when not in use.

Imagining the disaster is half of the fun :p
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Red Canti on <10-12-12/1856:10>
Technically a bola could be 2-3 grenades linked and thrown. Something should make them seperate and spin about but it could work in the same way as a burst from a grenade launcher.
And then use HE grenades to give your target an exploding neck-tie.

I actually think Q demonstrate that for 007 in one of the newer films.

Rasmus
I love the fact it took four minutes and one post for folks to start talking about taking a decidedly non-lethal weapon and applying it in lethal ways. Not that Grenade Bola isn't Classy as hell. That's a weapon you always bring to a meet.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-12-12/2203:04>
Technically a bola could be 2-3 grenades linked and thrown. Something should make them seperate and spin about but it could work in the same way as a burst from a grenade launcher.
And then use HE grenades to give your target an exploding neck-tie.

I actually think Q demonstrate that for 007 in one of the newer films.

Rasmus
I love the fact it took four minutes and one post for folks to start talking about taking a decidedly non-lethal weapon and applying it in lethal ways. Not that Grenade Bola isn't Classy as hell. That's a weapon you always bring to a meet.

How about we combine the two for s--ts and giggles? I know I'd do that if I could!  ;D
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: FuelDrop on <10-12-12/2215:14>
Technically a bola could be 2-3 grenades linked and thrown. Something should make them seperate and spin about but it could work in the same way as a burst from a grenade launcher.
And then use HE grenades to give your target an exploding neck-tie.

I actually think Q demonstrate that for 007 in one of the newer films.

Rasmus
I love the fact it took four minutes and one post for folks to start talking about taking a decidedly non-lethal weapon and applying it in lethal ways. Not that Grenade Bola isn't Classy as hell. That's a weapon you always bring to a meet.

How about we combine the two for s--ts and giggles? I know I'd do that if I could!  ;D
With monowire. Because it's monowire.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-12-12/2223:45>
How about we combine the two for s--ts and giggles? I know I'd do that if I could!  ;D
With monowire. Because it's monowire.

Speaking of monowire, you think it could be possible to make a net out of it? And more importantly, put it in a net gun?
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: FuelDrop on <10-12-12/2258:56>
How about we combine the two for s--ts and giggles? I know I'd do that if I could!  ;D
With monowire. Because it's monowire.
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Speaking of monowire, you think it could be possible to make a net out of it? And more importantly, put it in a net gun?
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Why not? They did it in AVP!
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Redmercury on <10-13-12/0559:19>
The, "You don't want to move anymore" net.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Red Canti on <10-13-12/1300:54>
Pretty sure that Net was around as early as Predator 2. But if you can make Monowire Bolas I don't see how the Net would be out of the question.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-13-12/1439:54>
The, "You don't want to move anymore" net.
AKA The "Shred you like mozzarella cheese" net.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on <10-14-12/0414:03>
grenades make salsa, chunky or not so much,
monowire nets made a really messy pico de gallo, or maybe cube steak
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: RythmnSylver on <10-15-12/0431:03>
Speaking of Monowire and range weapons.. Why not a Bow with a Mono-filament String? Sure you'd need to wear gloves and your arrows will be a bit more expensive, but if your enemies get too close for your arrows to be effective, you got a unique little taunt Monowire blade..
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-18-12/1231:51>
Someone already beat me to the punch with Monowire and grenades.... me and my buddy were just talking about bolas and grenades as the ends of them to trip people, then give them a nice "present" then he was like, oh! we could make it out of mono wire! That's where we both couldn't stop laughing for about a good minute.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: KarmaInferno on <10-18-12/1524:44>
Speaking of Monowire and range weapons.. Why not a Bow with a Mono-filament String? Sure you'd need to wear gloves and your arrows will be a bit more expensive, but if your enemies get too close for your arrows to be effective, you got a unique little taunt Monowire blade..

Crossbow with two bolts, set so the bolts are aimed away from each other a bit. Monowire between the bolts.



-k
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-18-12/1535:47>
Speaking of Monowire and range weapons.. Why not a Bow with a Mono-filament String? Sure you'd need to wear gloves and your arrows will be a bit more expensive, but if your enemies get too close for your arrows to be effective, you got a unique little taunt Monowire blade..

Crossbow with two bolts, set so the bolts are aimed away from each other a bit. Monowire between the bolts.



-k


With lightning electrifying the monowire!
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: RythmnSylver on <10-18-12/1650:07>

With lightning electrifying the monowire!

Can monowire even hold a charge?? let alone made from conductive materials?
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Twitchy D on <10-18-12/1707:09>
Explosive monowire bolas that stun the target with electricity when it touches flesh, then becomes superheated to burn through the flesh before it explodes. ;D

... ???

...Yeah, maybe I'm thinking too far into this killer bolas weapon, now... :-\
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-18-12/2042:03>
I don't think it needs superheating because the monowire is supposed to cut through already.... though I guess heat couldn't hurt....

ever hear the phrase....

like a hot knife through butter?

now apply that to a metahuman body. xD
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Mirikon on <10-18-12/2046:12>
Like a hot metahuman body through butter? I dunno, Zilfer, just doesn't have the same ring to it. But I think I saw that trid once.
Title: Re: Who throws bolas these days?
Post by: Zilfer on <10-18-12/2058:29>
I think it's better than....

Like a hot Meta through a humanis poli club.

:P

Though your right, not quite the same 'ring' to it. But it sure does back one hell of an explosion!