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Shadowrun Play => Gamemasters' Lounge => Topic started by: GhostWriter on <10-18-12/2131:18>
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be? My players happen to find these in the first run. (which will be posted up soon so all of you can judge this GM for his mistakes.)
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Bananas would be the most expensive, higher if truly organic. Chocolates is still processed food, so it's value would still be in relation with today's value. Condoms would be .10¥ a dozen. ;)
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Thanks Jack. Yeah they found organic bananas.
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Thanks Jack. Yeah they found organic bananas.
Hmmm... bananas are approx $3 kg in australia, assume that 'real food' cost significantly more...
Say 30-50 nuyen a kg?
Luxury items, these bananas :(
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Depends on the size of the crates, but here's what I'd suggest for a per-unit price, after taking into account the hit for selling on the black market:
Street-value for modern Bananas varies widely by location but I'd call it around $1 per kg here in the US, converting to kg to use the traditional metric units of the Sixth World. For Shadowrun, with the upheavals in the traditional growing areas for bananas and the general sky-rocketing prices of Real Food, I'd suggest giving them around 10¥ per kg, plus or minus the Face's intervention, of course.
Chocolates... well, depends on the quality. Assuming it's somewhere in the "deluxe to ultra-deluxe" range, since nobody else would bother with Genuine Chocolate, lets call it $35-$40 per kg for bulk "bricks," or the same amount per box for retail "assortment" type packaging. Much the same trouble affects chocolate as bananas, but they've managed to genetically engineer some pretty convincingly flavored substitutes so I'd suggest less of a mark-up... only around 50¥ per kg.
The condoms... well, I really doubt they'd get any more expensive in the future so, following the standard 1¥ = $1 rule, they'd retail legitimately for about $1 a condom for the ones with all the "special features" and far less for the generic, given-out-for-free-at-the-health-clinic variety. Call it 0.01¥ apiece, assuming they can even find a buyer.
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You guys are frellin brilliant.
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I'd probably mark up the bananas higher than the chocolate, especially since their "real". Chocolate is an extravagance, but it's a processed food, so even the best chocolate can be made with lesser quality ingredients and fillers.
Unless it's Hershey, that shit's da bomb.
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There are prices for smuggled food in Cyberpirates. I'll check when I get around to it.
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The chocolate has the highest variable. Much of the processing has not changed in 500 years. Aztecnology/ Aztlan have near lock on cocoa groves, because they like the climate of Central America. A Hershey bar would be of low value, high end chocolate from people like Jaque Torres could be near retirement levels.
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Most cocoa is exported from the Gold & Ivory Coasts, Indonesia and Malaysia, and South America (Amazonia). Yakashima Africa is the largest producer of chocolate according to Cyberpirates!, and it's a valuable enough a target that Kane once stole two and a half tons of chocolate chips from a candy factory in Yendi. He then blasted an eighty-ton vat of molasses with AV rockets to cover his escape while the guards drowned like a bunch of turn-of-the-century Bostonians.
Anyway, Zombie Chocolate, anyone?
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There are prices for smuggled food in Cyberpirates. I'll check when I get around to it.
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I did not know that.
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You may not need to worry about the price of bannana's, it's fairly likely they could go bad before they're able to find the right person to sell them too, or since they're perishable they could have to deal with taking frar less than they're actually worth, "thats my offer, good luck finding someone with a better one before they go bad".
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
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Reminds me of a run I did where the objective was to steal a live non-genetweaked cow.
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
Well, Kane delivered them to a women's prison in Accra, Ghana. So I think that was a charity/good karma run (He mentions that he now has 850 very good friends). That's the only way I could believe for even a second that Kane would pull a job for only 20,000¥ (4¥/lb.) worth of chocolate (using today's prices, and assuming they're conventional and not fancy $14/lb. chips). The AV rockets he used to blow up the vat and escape probably cost more than that. If real chocolate is rare, which it may or may not be, then he really blew a missed opportunity.
Anyway, it depends. As for bananas, they're already the most genetically-modified fruit on Earth. I assume by 2075 that they'll be even more genetweaked and, of course, be irradiated before shipment (The irradiated apples in 28 Days Later is my favorite part of that movie).
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Yeah, there're options for the wealthy to get stuff like that without too much issue. Vertical farms, for instance, are en vogue, and every Arcology includes food production capabilities. Now, Bob Shadowrunner and the rest of the ouliers? Not so much.
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Vat-grown beef has been around since at least 2050 according to Never Trust an Elf.
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Vat-grown beef has been around since at least 2050 according to Never Trust an Elf.
Which brings me back to the high value of an everyday normal cow. Today they currently go up to 3-4k USD alone. Give it some 70 years of inflation and a steadily decreasing supply...
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
Depends on the author.
Running Wild, page 8, specifically mentions cocoa tree as virtually extinct, only grown in scattered pockets in Africa and Venezuela, and under attack from fungal infection that kill 90% of the crop, making chocolate "as lauded an item as caviar." It also lists honey bees as extinct on page 7.
But a world without chocolate would be way too grimdark for me to enjoy playing Shadowrun anymore.
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
Depends on the author.
Running Wild, page 8, specifically mentions cocoa tree as virtually extinct, only grown in scattered pockets in Africa and Venezuela, and under attack from fungal infection that kill 90% of the crop, making chocolate "as lauded an item as caviar." It also lists honey bees as extinct on page 7.
But a world without chocolate would be way too grimdark for me to enjoy playing Shadowrun anymore.
That's so depressingly GrimDark that I think even Warhammer 40k players would hesitate pulling that card.
Fortunately, honey is still in supply! The catch? Chicago's got the market cornered, so...
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That would be terrible.
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Allergic to chocolate here, so no great loss, but honey? Dude, you can't kill off the bees.
Who was the IC author of that bit? Danchekker?
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
Depends on the author.
Running Wild, page 8, specifically mentions cocoa tree as virtually extinct, only grown in scattered pockets in Africa and Venezuela, and under attack from fungal infection that kill 90% of the crop, making chocolate "as lauded an item as caviar." It also lists honey bees as extinct on page 7.
But a world without chocolate would be way too grimdark for me to enjoy playing Shadowrun anymore.
Fortunately, Parabotany (p43) says that they've got some hybrid / gengineered replacements (by the name of "cacahuatl", if I'm reading it correctly) that produce pretty much the same "flavanols" as real chocolate.
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I blame Winternight.
Bastards.
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Grim cyberpunk indeed.
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be?
What the heck was the run against? Some kind of weird San Francisco sex show? :o
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be?
What the heck was the run against? Some kind of weird San Francisco sex show? :o
Maybe the driver thought he'd get a pack of "who am I kidding"-condoms while on his delivery route.
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nah, it was a chocoholic about to teach a sex ed class
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be?
What the heck was the run against? Some kind of weird San Francisco sex show? :o
Maybe the driver thought he'd get a pack of "who am I kidding"-condoms while on his delivery route.
Actually it to pick up a frozen girl and drop her off. They "acquired" a few items along the way.
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be?
What the heck was the run against? Some kind of weird San Francisco sex show? :o
Maybe the driver thought he'd get a pack of "who am I kidding"-condoms while on his delivery route.
Actually it to pick up a frozen girl and drop her off. They "acquired" a few items along the way.
...???
...:o
That explanation is actually even worse then just the bananas/chocolates/condoms explanation. Now, to keep me from thinking disturbing things that I would rather not like to think about, could you please tell us the rest of the mission...
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...what the street value for a crate of bananas, a crate of real chocolates, and a medi-kit full of condoms would be?
What the heck was the run against? Some kind of weird San Francisco sex show? :o
Maybe the driver thought he'd get a pack of "who am I kidding"-condoms while on his delivery route.
Actually it to pick up a frozen girl and drop her off. They "acquired" a few items along the way.
...???
...:o
That explanation is actually even worse then just the bananas/chocolates/condoms explanation. Now, to keep me from thinking disturbing things that I would rather not like to think about, could you please tell us the rest of the mission...
Sounds like an EPIC scavenger hunt.
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In due time....in due time.
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I thought Real chocolate was as rare as real honey in SR?
Depends on the author.
Running Wild, page 8, specifically mentions cocoa tree as virtually extinct, only grown in scattered pockets in Africa and Venezuela, and under attack from fungal infection that kill 90% of the crop, making chocolate "as lauded an item as caviar." It also lists honey bees as extinct on page 7.
But a world without chocolate would be way too grimdark for me to enjoy playing Shadowrun anymore.
Yeah, Running Wild was where I was citing from. And like was mentioned Chicago has the only natural honey bees left.
And to make some extra side cash when my rigger had to go thru Chi town and discovered that fact he made sure to buy some warehouse that noone wanted anymore then came back later and converted it into a warehouse sized green house. Some environmental controls and seals later and scavanged wildflower seeds and he had a huge indoor garden. Which he then populated with about a dozen bee colonies. Install drone guards and caretakers. and now he harvests honey that his roommate makes into Mead. 200Y a bottle Mead.
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This was reaaly helpful to me to thanks guys ;D
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This was reaaly helpful to me to thanks guys ;D
Well, now that this thread has been ressurected from the realms of the dead threads long forgotten, GhostWriter, I'm still wondering what the hell that run was about. Could you please tell us now, seeing as this so-called run is now likely finished, what the hell happened, particularly with the dead chick stuck in an ice cube and the condom/banana/chocolate combo?
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:D I'd be delighted twitchy. The run was something I affectionately called Blowing the Popsicle stand.
The team (which will get it's own thread for introductions) was contacted by fixer for a new job. It was supposed to be a simple snatch and grab (which they succeeded at) but ran into a snag. So they had a bunch of gangers start a distraction by paying them to do so. Once done, they went into the warehouse Knight Errant was guarding and grabbed the girl in the cryogenic tube(where the grabbed whatever crates they could get). When they tried to get away, they were stopped by some of the gangers who wanted a bigger cut.
Another runner (who goes by the moniker Longshot, created by lurker) saves them. He works for another Johnson (who happens to be the girls younger brother now in his twilight years.) During the commotion they are contacted by said Johnson who promises to pay twice what they are getting from the Johnson who hired them. (Also the tube was damaged. OPEN IT OR SHE DIES was the outcome)
They find out it requires a jack (no wireless as it was from the mid 90's) and that the girl has been stasis since then. They open it and she is strangely okay with the motley crew of runners. She is returned to her brother unharmed (turns out she is Awakened, which she literally wakes up to)
They return to the other Johnson who is now dead thanks to some interference from Tir elves. The gangers pretty much out gun them so they look into a crate and find a tacnuke.
Long story short: They blow up the nuke and the meet and end up saving a motel full of people doing it. That's what happened.
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:D I'd be delighted twitchy. The run was something I affectionately called Blowing the Popsicle stand.
The team (which will get it's own thread for introductions) was contacted by fixer for a new job. It was supposed to be a simple snatch and grab (which they succeeded at) but ran into a snag. So they had a bunch of gangers start a distraction by paying them to do so. Once done, they went into the warehouse Knight Errant was guarding and grabbed the girl in the cryogenic tube(where the grabbed whatever crates they could get). When they tried to get away, they were stopped by some of the gangers who wanted a bigger cut.
Another runner (who goes by the moniker Longshot, created by lurker) saves them. He works for another Johnson (who happens to be the girls younger brother now in his twilight years.) During the commotion they are contacted by said Johnson who promises to pay twice what they are getting from the Johnson who hired them. (Also the tube was damaged. OPEN IT OR SHE DIES was the outcome)
They find out it requires a jack (no wireless as it was from the mid 90's) and that the girl has been stasis since then. They open it and she is strangely okay with the motley crew of runners. She is returned to her brother unharmed (turns out she is Awakened, which she literally wakes up to)
They return to the other Johnson who is now dead thanks to some interference from Tir elves. The gangers pretty much out gun them so they look into a crate and find a tacnuke.
Long story short: They blow up the nuke and the meet and end up saving a motel full of people doing it. That's what happened.
And the explanation I was waiting for is finally answered! HUZZAH! Now I don't have to think about disturbing happenings involving chicks in ice cubes, covered in chocolate syrup and slices of banana with a troll looming over her...
...late at night, when I stare at the ceiling and wonder what the hell that run was about... :o
Anyhow, sounds pretty fun! Is it ok if I can ask for the mission notes and outline, or would that be a no go, or some sort of faux pas?
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Sure thing. When I find them anyway. Unlike most GMs I know, my notes are messy and NEVER in the order I want them in. :-\ But I'll get around to it since my game was moved next week due to Black Friday.
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Sure thing. When I find them anyway. Unlike most GMs I know, my notes are messy and NEVER in the order I want them in. :-\ But I'll get around to it since my game was moved next week due to Black Friday.
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