Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Welshman on <10-21-10/1608:33>
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So I've just gotten to the modification section of Arsenal (Yes I read rule books cover to cover and soak them in).
As I began to read the modification section my mind mentally started playing the theme from the old A-Team series (Unitied States, 1980's, go wiki it). Which led me to thinking that the A-Team were the first Shadowrunners, before there were shadows to run in.
Now I have a sudden urge to build the A-Team as a group of Shadowrunners.
My guess is it's already been done though. Right? I mean come on, I'm not the only 40 something that grew up watching that horribly campy show, right?
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Yes... A-Team been tossed around as a great Shadowrun show.
The FIRST Shadowrun show, IMO, is still Mission: Impossible.
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Yes... A-Team been tossed around as a great Shadowrun show.
The FIRST Shadowrun show, IMO, is still Mission: Impossible.
Ah yes, but the MI team was a government team, so by definition they are not Runners. Runners are outside the system, working for the system.
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Leverage is another great Shadowrun show!
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"I pity the fool"
"I just love it when a plan comes together"
I grew up on the A Team.
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Yes... A-Team been tossed around as a great Shadowrun show.
The FIRST Shadowrun show, IMO, is still Mission: Impossible.
Ah yes, but the MI team was a government team, so by definition they are not Runners. Runners are outside the system, working for the system.
Not so... The agents do work for the IMF, but that's not their day job (no matter what Tom Cruise & his movies say). They don't make as big a deal later in the series, but early on, the agents are called in for the specific skill sets. For instance, Cinnamon Carter was actually a top fashion model and actress in between missions. (The others also had glamorous lives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission:_Impossible#IMF_agents).)
If anything, they were Prime Runners living Luxury lifestyles.
(And, yes, Leverage is truly awesome.)
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Yes... A-Team been tossed around as a great Shadowrun show.
The FIRST Shadowrun show, IMO, is still Mission: Impossible.
Ah yes, but the MI team was a government team, so by definition they are not Runners. Runners are outside the system, working for the system.
Not so... The agents do work for the IMF, but that's not their day job (no matter what Tom Cruise & his movies say). They don't make as big a deal later in the series, but early on, the agents are called in for the specific skill sets. For instance, Cinnamon Carter was actually a top fashion model and actress in between missions. (The others also had glamorous lives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission:_Impossible#IMF_agents).)
If anything, they were Prime Runners living Luxury lifestyles.
(And, yes, Leverage is truly awesome.)
Okay, so even the government can hire Runners, I'll give you that and you are spot on that the old days they had day jobs, but I always thought of that as covers, like in I Spy.
I can see the connection though and agree, that in the spirit of it all, IMF were the first Runners.
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(Unitied States, 1980's, go wiki it).
Man, dont make me feel old. The A-Team isnt that old, and everybody knows what it is, right? Right?
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Well, there was a movie that came out recently. So they should.
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Wait, that movie was based off some old TV Show???
Just kidding!
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It makes me sad when people refer to the 80s as the "old days". I swear I was just there in the 80s.
However, whenever our rigger or hacker is jury-rigging something in-game I may happen to play the theme to Macgyver. It made me sad that 1 or 2 players didn't know the music.
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Leverage is another great Shadowrun show!
Doubly so (IMHO) because its never about blasting their way in and there's always an emotional payoff, not just a monetary one. These guys do illegal things, but they do it subtly and for a good cause. The former is a good example of how not to get corporate strike teams out for your blood, the latter is a throwback to the "punk" part of Cyberpunk where the supposedly powerless can make a difference.
See also Burn Notice.
Its also worth noting that all of the series being discussed really only have one heavy combat guy each. The rest are faces, infiltrators, hackers, wheelmen etc.
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It makes me sad when people refer to the 80s as the "old days". I swear I was just there in the 80s.
However, whenever our rigger or hacker is jury-rigging something in-game I may happen to play the theme to Macgyver. It made me sad that 1 or 2 players didn't know the music.
I work in Silicon Valley, home of high tech. Earlier this year I was working with some UI designers and I made a Pentium Floating Point joke.
They all just stared at me blankly.
I felt so old...
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As I am... What's Pentium Floating Point? I feel old a lot too, it's sad when I'm listening to music I grew up too and hear "Oh my dad listens to that". :'(
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As I am... What's Pentium Floating Point?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug)
Silicon Valley legend. Intel handled it about as well as Toyota handled the recent accelerator recall.
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Cover ups and poor customer service rarely get you far. I seem to recall having a computer with this problem... my dad thought it was something I did to it.
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Face-man, was THE orginal face. I would say human or elf. Hannibal, human street sammie. BA, ork for sure-street sam/mechanic. Murdock rigger.
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Face-man, was THE orginal face. I would say human or elf. Hannibal, human street sammie. BA, ork for sure-street sam/mechanic. Murdock rigger.
My vote is that Hannibal was a fixer/face/weapons specialist.
Face was a hacker/face.
/agree w/ others ;)
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For TV shows still on the air, Burn Notice is indeed an excellent example of present day Shadowrunning. Each episode usually starts with meeting 'The Client' (or Johnson, in SR terms), followed by doing Legwork, which leads to forming the Plan, and ultimately doing the Job (or Run). Not every job is what it seems to be and a lot of the Johnsons aren't to be completely trusted.
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I'll have to check the show out. Probably a nice amount of good SR ideas there from how you describe it.
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Face-man, was THE orginal face. I would say human or elf. Hannibal, human street sammie. BA, ork for sure-street sam/mechanic. Murdock rigger.
Murdock was just nucking futs. I loved his antics, especially the adventures of captain sock puppet. :)
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oh man, i totally forgot about the sock puppet! that was hilarious. thanks for reminding me..... maybe I'll make a npc with that.... "quirk".
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"The taxi cab wars" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0504222/) - 1983
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Cal Freeman: [Murdock has just done a sock puppet show] Are you sure he's okay? I mean, he doesn't seem quite normal.
Col. John "Hannibal" Smith: That sock is telling the truth.
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Capt. H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock: Hi, I'm Doctor Vern, veterinarian and this is my talking dog, Socky.
Sgt. Bosco "B.A." Baracus: This is my talking fist. His name is Knock-out. Do you want to hear Knock-out speak?
Capt. H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock: No.
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To /really/ pull it off voydangel, you need a straight man in your skits. :) And lots and lots of 'study materials' (a-team episodes)
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Don't forget Murdock's Masked Avenger character, complete with paper mask.
I'd love to see BA's fear of flying in a Shadowrun game-that's a good quirk. "I don't care if there are insect spirits coming to get us, I am not getting on that plane with you, fool!"
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A team were definitely runner icons!
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It makes me sad when people refer to the 80s as the "old days". I swear I was just there in the 80s.
However, whenever our rigger or hacker is jury-rigging something in-game I may happen to play the theme to Macgyver. It made me sad that 1 or 2 players didn't know the music.
They didn't know mcgyver? who are these kids? Have you seen Macgruber? hilarious.
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I still think one of the greatest moments in TV history was the first episode of Stargate: SG1, when they go through the gate to an unknown world.
Samantha Carter: Amazing. This is what was missing from the dig at Giza. This is how they controlled it. It took us 15 years and three supercomputers to MacGyver a system for the gate on Earth.
Jack O'Neill: Captain?
Samantha Carter: Look how small it is!
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That quote taken out of context ;D
MacGyver: Slapping reality in the face one episode at a time. ;)
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Actually, (being a avid fan of Mac--I have three swiss army knives, one on me at all times) I watch a lot of background stuff on MacGuyver and a lot of the stuff they wrote into the show was scientifically-feasible (although not always workable in the real world).
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My understanding is that for a lot of the stuff that could be dangerous for kids to try, they skipped a crucial step or two. Sort of like on Mythbusters where they make a point of not mentioning certain chemical compositions or formulae. Of course, back before the Internet you couldn't just go to the Mac website and find a post in the forums about all the steps that were skipped.
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Yeah, I know it's feasible it's just some of the stuff is dangerous even with the missed steps, the makeshift airplane for one.
I like to think Mac's a mage from WoD he can BS reality just enough not to get a smackdown.
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Speaking of Mythbusters I recently watched an episode where they made a WORKING canon out of Duct Tape! I friking love those guys!
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Yeah, I know it's feasible it's just some of the stuff is dangerous even with the missed steps, the makeshift airplane for one.
I like to think Mac's a mage from WoD he can BS reality just enough not to get a smackdown.
See, that's why I liked the ol' Mage game. Because I had an idea to get out of the pesky "no-one-can-witness-the-magic" rules:
If you know you're going to be in public and will most like need to "bend reality", bring along a camera crew with some guys that look like sound/light technicians. Hell, you could throw a fireball at a speeding car in public and people on the side walk would be cheering because they thought it was part of a movie...
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Since Fastjack brought up Stargate SG-1-I am sure a couple of people have already thought of this: What about Shadowrun SG-1? The gates could be Astral Rifts to different Metaplanes.......hmmmmmmm ;D
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Since Fastjack brought up Stargate SG-1-I am sure a couple of people have already thought of this: What about Shadowrun SG-1? The gates could be Astral Rifts to different Metaplanes.......hmmmmmmm ;D
...and titled, Harlequin's Back again! (http://www.amazon.com/Harlequins-Back-Shadowrun-Tom-Dowd/dp/B000PUUKO6)
;D
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Since Fastjack brought up Stargate SG-1-I am sure a couple of people have already thought of this: What about Shadowrun SG-1? The gates could be Astral Rifts to different Metaplanes.......hmmmmmmm ;D
...and titled, Harlequin's Back again! (http://www.amazon.com/Harlequins-Back-Shadowrun-Tom-Dowd/dp/B000PUUKO6)
;D
Harlequin's Back ... With a Vengeance!
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much catchier than my title! ;)
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I still think one of the greatest moments in TV history was the first episode of Stargate: SG1, when they go through the gate to an unknown world.
Samantha Carter: Amazing. This is what was missing from the dig at Giza. This is how they controlled it. It took us 15 years and three supercomputers to MacGyver a system for the gate on Earth.
Jack O'Neill: Captain?
Samantha Carter: Look how small it is!
I so completely fell out of my chair on that one. It was classic.
Course we should note that MacGyver himself is the ultimate one man Runner.
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MacGyver is Ryan Mercury's grandfather. They are both one-man-teams, work for a charitable organization to protect the world and have the most awesomest haircut in their eras!