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Governments in 2070's

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« Reply #120 on: <09-11-13/0727:41> »
In the Shadowrun setting it's a bit simpler.

Get all you can and the heck with everyone else..... *LOL*


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« Reply #121 on: <10-04-13/1458:57> »
what a lot of people forget between the Mega Corps and Countries

1. Corps have to make a profit and adhere to The Bottom Line. Countries do not. This gives countries a much bigger percentage of their budget and manpower that can be spent on weapons of various flavors. not to mention manpower. and in many respects, while some nations may have crap for troops, Quantity is it's own quality, after a fashion. No Corp in it's right mind wants a sizable nation pissed at it. Kills the bottom line to no end and the nation will have reserves. Thor Shots or Not, a Nation that focuses ona mega corp as a 'existential enemy' will be able to make the corps life miserable in short order

2. Professional military's will think nothing of large casualties to achieve an important objective. A corp will look at it's ledger first and figure if it's worth it or not. Again, the Bottom Line. This is what makes Ares and Aztechnology so dangerous as they tend to work very closely with Local militaries and manipulate the politicians to send in the national forces first.
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« Reply #122 on: <10-04-13/1544:53> »
what a lot of people forget between the Mega Corps and Countries

1. Corps have to make a profit and adhere to The Bottom Line. Countries do not. This gives countries a much bigger percentage of their budget and manpower that can be spent on weapons of various flavors. not to mention manpower. and in many respects, while some nations may have crap for troops, Quantity is it's own quality, after a fashion. No Corp in it's right mind wants a sizable nation pissed at it. Kills the bottom line to no end and the nation will have reserves. Thor Shots or Not, a Nation that focuses ona mega corp as a 'existential enemy' will be able to make the corps life miserable in short order

2. Professional military's will think nothing of large casualties to achieve an important objective. A corp will look at it's ledger first and figure if it's worth it or not. Again, the Bottom Line. This is what makes Ares and Aztechnology so dangerous as they tend to work very closely with Local militaries and manipulate the politicians to send in the national forces first.


Agreed. To a point.


While A nation could easily kick out a megacorp without too much fuss (it has happened several times now), they are in a much larger problem if they try to remove ALL The megas (and their subs) from their country.

the reason boils down to simple supply and demand.... their are very few countries in the world that can be truly self-sustaining and enclosed while keeping a level of social services that the population expects. With out trade, many countries would have their economies rocked (if not shattered) and the ability of the government to provide social services would be impacted, if not crippled to collapse.

The Megas on the otherhand would look at the total combined losses of assets and revenue as unacceptable, and would strike back... Now, this may not be with military force... trade embargoes, Cutting off lines of credit, increasing interest rates, denial of services, social and political propaganda could and would be used. And probably would be used before a military strike.

And this is what makes the Megas so frightening! They CAN cripple nations when they co-operate. AS an experiment, go grab 15 common items in your house (say, toilet paper, toothpaste, a pot, a glass, a plate, a shirt, underwear, socks, pants, a frozen food, a raw food, a veggie. an appliance, a personal electronic device, Shoes, a mode of transport, a fuel source) then look and see (or research) where it is made.

IF the item is not made in your country, consider the impact on your life if it was removed TOTALLY. Starting to see the picture?

Now, yes, some items wouldn't totally disappear, as they COULD be made in your country.... or could they?? look at the ingrediants... are they found in your country? if they are, in what quantity?

Now, select just 3 items that you grabbed, and triple the price. What impact would that have on your life? what if it was 5 times more? 15 times more?


Sadly, the end result of a total Mega Corp embargo against a country would probably lead to a shortage or disappearance of some "staple" items and a drastic increase in the cost of others. which would be directly felt by the citizens of the country.... and it would be those same citizens that would force the government to allow the megas back in. 
Where am I going? And why am I in a hand basket ???

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