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Courts and the legal process in Shadowrun

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« Reply #15 on: <10-02-11/1711:46> »
And that, chillen, is why I'm not a lawyer.

I should just stick to humorous comments and paranoid delusions...
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« Reply #16 on: <10-02-11/1722:13> »
And why if your character is arrested, you start rolling a new one unless the others want to attempt a jailbreak...
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« Reply #17 on: <10-02-11/1730:51> »
Or arrange for the court case to go south real fast.
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« Reply #18 on: <10-02-11/1741:07> »
in the NAN???!!! No way! In some NAN courts, the judge/jury is/are SPIRITS! Magic is entirely permissible in NAN courts. Hope you are innocent when they Mind Probe you...
They're shamans, not spirits.

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« Reply #19 on: <10-02-11/1832:33> »
Oh, wait...it wasn't the NAN specifically, it was "Some nations" that use spirits as judges or jury members. I just assumed it was some NAN nations. My bad.

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« Reply #20 on: <10-02-11/2107:37> »
Some Tribes might allow Spirits to be judges or witnesses.  NAN law is weird when it comes to what is a Federal Law and what is Tribal Law.

Just stick with the Cascade Orks, as long as you don't kill anyone or get someone pregnant, you're probably going to be able to bribe your way out of any situation.
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« Reply #21 on: <10-05-11/1609:55> »
Oh, wait...it wasn't the NAN specifically, it was "Some nations" that use spirits as judges or jury members. I just assumed it was some NAN nations. My bad.

Manchuria for sure.

As to the law system, expect it to be more corrupt and political than ever.  Money is freedom.

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« Reply #22 on: <10-05-11/1720:55> »
If the guy ended up in court, and the evidence is missing during the court case, then "Double Jeopardy" comes into play, and he can skip down the street confessing all his wicked deeds that he was charged for in said case while on the 11 O'Clock News and nothing will happen to him legally.

Common misconception. First of all, if the evidence goes out the window, then it's usually a mistrial and in the event the evidence re-appears, or new evidence emerges, they can re-try the case (double jeopardy only applies if there's an actual acquittal or conviction). Second, even if he's found innocent due to the missing evidence, if the prosecution can prove that the evidence went missing as a result of the defendant's actions (or parties acting on the defense's behalf), this falls under the "fraudulent trial" exemption from Double Jeopardy.

Last but not least, if the Seattle justice system finds him innocent of murder, and he subsequently confesses, the UCAS justice system can try him for violation of his victim's Human Rights, since presumably the UCAS retains the "separate sovereigns" concept of current US law.

Actually if someone is aquitted in Seattle, it is a UCAS Court so they could not be tried again in the UCAS.  It would be similar to being aquitted in Seattle, WA, then being charged for the same crime in Spokane, WA on federal charges.  It doesn't happen that way.
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« Reply #23 on: <10-05-11/1801:35> »
As long as the original crime was "local" (murder, even in DC, is not a Federal crime) and the subsequent charge is a "Federal" offense (such as civil rights violations), then yes, the charge can be levied in the same area, by the different jurisdictions. If Seattle doesn't have local legal authority, only then can you avoid the Local/Federal exemption for Double Jeopardy.

Assuming you were using modern day Washington, yes, you can in fact be brought up on federal charges inside the state of Washington by the federal prosecutor in Washington state after being acquitted of the same crime on local charges. If you don't believe me, take a look at the article on Double Jeopardy on wikipedia as a baseline, particularly the portion on exemptions.
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