[Wilhelm R.]

So I'm using chummer trying to make an ex-strike force / swat type character....  Too bad as soon as I purchase any sort of neat armor, like SWAT armor (using restricted gear quality),  it drops my agility down to horrid levels, due to body not being my high stat.

Any pointers on successfully making a character of this type?  Ace Strike Force type... Think something like Hunk from the Resident Evil games

*Edited to clarify my intent/understanding*

[Joush]

Chummer's killing your agility because you are exceeding your body times 2 in armor.

For every 2 points that your armor (either rating) exceeds your body x 2 you take -1 Agility. You should up your body to at least 6 in order to wear SWAT armor, with 7 if you want to wear the helmet.

[Wilhelm R.]

Right, I get the body rule, I'm just wondering ways to optimize it without sacrificing my ability to shoot. 

[PapaR]

could you post what you have so far, it would help with ideas.

YNT So Weave Armor: So Weave is a method of extruding armor  bers and weaving them together in a way that is easier to wear than plates and reinforced panels. It was developed by Yamatetsu Naval Technologies for sapients and the less common metavarients, but it works for average-sized folks, too. All armor types are available as SoftWeave armor, which modi es the cost and Availability of the base armor. For purposes of armor allowance (see Armor and Encumbrance, p. 161, SR4A), reduce the highest armor rating of worn armor by the wearer’s Strength (so, for example, an armor vest would encumber someone with Body 2, if the armor vest was So Weave and that person had a Strength of at least 2, he could wear it without penalty due to armor encumberance). So Weave is also available for militarygrade armor (p. 50, Arsenal).

Depending on what armor you got going, if you take military armor from arsenal remember it's x3 instead of two so adding an extra point to body might be all you need.

If you're cyber/bio wared

Suprathyroid Gland: Placed on top of an individual’s existing thyroid gland, the suprathyroid gland supersedes the metabolic functions of the thyroid, optimizing catabolism and anabolism. The altered metabolism produces more energy and effectively supercharges the recipient. Characters with a suprathyroid gland have a tendency toward hyperactivity and must ingest twice as much food and drink as a normal person to fuel the higher metabolic rate. The Suprathyroid Gland provides an attribute bonus of +1 to the user’s Body, Agility, Reaction, and Strength. Lifestyle costs rise by 10%.

[Wilhelm R.]

Yeah! I did add the YMT weave actually, once I read what it did.

This is where I'm at so far.

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== Attributes ==
BOD: 5
AGI: 6 (8)
REA: 5 (7)
STR: 2
CHA: 2
INT: 2
LOG: 2
WIL: 2
EDG: 4

== Qualities ==
Restricted Gear (Rating 1)

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Muscle Toner Rating 2
Wired Reflexes Rating 2

== Armor ==
SWAT Armor                12/10
   +Biomonitor
   +Fire Resistance 4
   +YNT SoftWeave
SWAT Helmet               2/2
   +YNT SoftWeave
   +Flare Compensation
   +Gas Mask
   +Image Link
   +Low Light
   +Smartlink

== Weapons ==
Steyr TMP
   +Electronic Firing
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 4P   AP: -   RC: 4
Unarmed Attack
   DV: 1S   AP: -   RC: 0

As you can see, I've got a bit of the situation handled, but would still love to hear some alternatives and/or ideas.

Question!  Do I have to take the restriction quality AGAIN just to get the helmet for the suit?  Wasn't too sure on that.

[PapaR]

I would say no, I'm sure when you got it you made sure to get the helmet too. Double check with your gm though.

[Critias]

Nothing says "badass elite operator" like Str 2 and Int 2, huh?   

I'd worry a little less about trying to be just good at combat, and look into making a character that can spot the bad guys coming, react in a reasonable way when he sees 'em, maintains a reasonable level of fitness, etc, etc.  You're not going to always get to stomp around in your highly visible SWAT armor, after all, so don't let yourself fall into the one-trick-pony trap.

[Preacher]

There's an optional rule in Arsenal that basically says "ignore the encumbrance rules if you're only wearing one piece of armor."  So a Body 1 character could wear a full suit of SWAT Armor (12/10) without a problem, even with the helmet since that same rule only kicks in with the encumbrance if you're trying to go overboard with accessories.  As opposed to just a helmet which is a natural part of that type of armor.

That said, trying to make "elite" characters with the default rules is nigh impossible when they're supposed to be as well-rounded and talented as a special ops kind of character.

[Wilhelm R.]

Nothing says "badass elite operator" like Str 2 and Int 2, huh?   

I know right?      Yeah,  that was while it was just in the stage of trying to figure the encumbrance out.  Thankfully the guy running to the game is allowing the no encumbrance for one piece of armor rule that was mentioned.

So heres what I got so far:

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== Info ==
Street Name: Lockdown
Name: Mark Samson
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Human Male Age 35
Height 5'11" Weight 265
Composure: 4
Judge Intentions: 5
Lift/Carry: 8 (60 kg/40 kg)
Memory: 5
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 5 (7)
REA: 5 (7)
STR: 4
CHA: 2
INT: 3
LOG: 3
WIL: 2
EDG: 4

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   3.44
Initiative:                8 (10)
IP:                        1 (3)
Matrix Initiative:         7
Matrix IP:                 2
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         9

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 2
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 2
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 6
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Automatics                 : 6                      Pool: 13
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 6
Climbing                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Clubs                      : 4                      Pool: 11
Computer                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Con                        : 0                      Pool: 1
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 2
Data Search                : 0                      Pool: 2
Demolitions                : 2                      Pool: 5
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Dodge                      : 0                      Pool: 6
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 6
Etiquette                  : 0                      Pool: 1
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 2
Flight                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 6
Gunnery                    : 2                      Pool: 9
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 6
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Heavy Weapons              : 3                      Pool: 10
Infiltration               : 0                      Pool: 6
Instruction                : 3                      Pool: 5
Intimidation               : 4                      Pool: 6
Leadership                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Locksmith                  : 0                      Pool: 6
Longarms                   : 3                      Pool: 10
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Negotiation                : 0                      Pool: 1
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 6
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 3
Perception                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Pilot Ground Craft         : 2                      Pool: 9
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 6
Pistols                    : 3                      Pool: 10
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 6
Running                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Shadowing                  : 0                      Pool: 2
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Swimming                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Throwing Weapons           : 3                      Pool: 10
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Unarmed Combat             : 4                      Pool: 11

== Knowledge Skills ==
Combat Tactics             : 4                      Pool: 7
English                    : N                      Pool: 0
History                    : 2                      Pool: 5
Military                   : 3                      Pool: 6
Politics                   : 2                      Pool: 5
Security Tactics           : 3                      Pool: 6
Underworld                 : 4                      Pool: 7

== Contacts ==
George Miller, Ex-SWAT (3, 2)

== Qualities ==
Day Job (10 hrs/week)
Hung Out to Dry
Paranoia
Restricted Gear (Rating 1)
SINner (Standard) (Marcus Samson)

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Muscle Toner Rating 2
Wired Reflexes Rating 2

== Armor ==
Clothing                  0/0
Leather Jacket            2/2
SWAT Armor                12/10
   +Biomonitor
   +Fire Resistance 4
   +YNT SoftWeave
SWAT Helmet               2/2
   +YNT SoftWeave
   +Flare Compensation
   +Gas Mask
   +Image Link
   +Low Light
   +Singularity Battle Buddy Basic
      +Novatech Navi
      +Suite: Pro User [Analyze 4, Browse 4, Command 2, Edit 4]
      +Hardening Rating 6
   +Smartlink

== Weapons ==
AK-97
   +Electronic Firing
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 6P   AP: -1   RC: 4
Grenade: Flash-Bang
   DV: 6S (10m Radius)   AP: -3   RC: 0
Grenade: Fragmentation
   DV: 12P(f) (-1/m)   AP: +5   RC: 0
Grenade: Slick
   DV: Special   AP: -   RC: 0
Grenade: Smoke
   DV: (10m Radius)   AP: -   RC: 0
Jupiter Taser Club
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Mossberg AM-CMDT
   +Flashlight, Standard
   +Heavy Barrel
   +Melee Hardening
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 9P(f)   AP: +5   RC: 1
Steyr TMP
   +Stock
   +Electronic Firing
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Smartgun System
   +Sound Suppressor
   DV: 4P   AP: -   RC: 4(5)
Unarmed Attack
   DV: 2S   AP: -   RC: 0

== Martial Arts ==
ROSS
   +Take Aim as Free Action

== Commlink ==
Transys Avalon (4, 4, 3, 4)
   +Novatech Navi
   +Suite: Basic+ [Analyze 3, Browse 3, Command 1, Edit 3]
   +Sim Module (Cold)
   +Linguasoft (Cantonese) Rating 4
Singularity Battle Buddy Basic (5, 4, 3, 5)
   +Novatech Navi
   +Suite: Pro User [Analyze 4, Browse 4, Command 2, Edit 4]
   +Hardening Rating 6

== Gear ==
Ammo: Explosive Rounds (Shotguns) x40
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Machine Pistols) x90
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Shotguns) x40
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Assault Rifles) x114
Ammo: Stick-n-Shock (Machine Pistols) x60
Ammo: Stick-n-Shock (Assault Rifles) x76
AR Gloves
Docwagon Contract: Gold
Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 3
   +Spatial Recognizer
   +Select Sound Filter Rating 3
Fake License (Pistol Permit) Rating 4
Fake License (AR Permit) Rating 4
Fake License (Riot Control ID) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Frank Kane) Rating 4
Grenade: Flash-Bang x6
Grenade: Fragmentation x6
Grenade: Slick x6
Grenade: Smoke x6
Maglock Passkey Rating 4
Plasteel Restraints
Subvocal Microphone
Survival Kit
Trodes

== Vehicles ==
GMC Bulldog Step-Van (Van)
   +Amenities, Middle
   +Anti-Theft
   +Armor, Concealed (Rating 20) Rating 20
   +Run Flat Tires (Rating 4) Rating 4
   +Satellite Communication
   +Vehicle Sensor

== Description ==
Sturdy build, blonde crew-cut, rugged features. Clean shaven, thick jaw, many visible scars. When not in his old SWAT gear he wears cargo pants and a tight grey t-shirt.

== Background ==
Mark Samson is an ex SWAT Strike Force officer who was fired after an incident involving major hostility and aggressive force against a fellow officer. Mark had information dealing with the fact that said officer was on the pay from a crime syndicate, and was in turn responsible for a botched job that ended in the deaths of three other officers. Some time later, the traitorous officer was found supplying gear to a street gang, and was discharged as well.

Thanks to a huge favor owed to him from the SWAT Team Leader, Mark was able to smuggle his gear with him, since he had grown so attached to it. Now, he mainly picks up security and other martially-focused jobs that don't deal too heavily with the criminal element, which he still holds his programmed hatred for.