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[SR5] Destroying Barriers Clarification

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JackVII

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« on: <08-23-13/1217:29> »
Sorry about all the questions, but I want to make sure I'm reading all of this correctly. The example provided seems to consolidate a few steps in the process and makes it less than clear. The target for the examples in this case is a simple door (2 Structure/4 Armor). The goal is to destroy the barrier, rather than attack through it, so the door's Armor rating in this case is basically just additional Structure rating (unlike when trying to attack through a door). (Rolling on IC, but not linking).

Example #1:
Ork Ganger (STR 8, AGL 4, Physical Limit: 8, Unarmed Combat 4, wearing Knucks)
Attacks the door (8d6): 2 hits, DV of attack set to 11P (STR +1 (knucks) + 2 (hits from test). Since it is a melee attack, the DV is unmodified.
Door Resistance Test (6d6): 2 hits, reducing the damage taken to 9P
Resolution: The door has 2 structure. For each two boxes of damage, the ork knocked a 1-meter hole in the door. With 9P, he basically punched the door to splinters as a 4 square meter hole is basically 12'x12'.

Example #2 (Somewhat based on where the book example kind of loses me)
Dwarf Mage (MAG 6, Force 6, Spellcasting 6, Casting Shatter)
Casts Shatter (F6) on door (12d6): 6 hits, DV of the attack is set to 6P because it is a direct damage spell. As a combat spell, no modifier.
Door Resistance Test (2d6): 0 hits, no damage reduction.
Resolution: The door has 2 structure. For each two boxes of damage. the dwarf knocked a 1-meter hole in the door. A 3 meter hole is pretty good for opening a big enough hole for orc-sized and smaller folks to move through.

Do the above scenarios seem accurate? Am I missing something? I thought it was particularly odd that armor doesn't seem to do much for an object. In fact, for the purpose of destroying a barrier, it would be better for the barrier to have an 8 Structure, 0 Armor than a 4 Structure, 4 Armor.

 Edit: Edited the door's "resistance" test in the spell example. Still not sure how that works, to be honest. Also removed editorial content about the example. It seems strange to include a "lucky" roll without describing how many dice he rolled initially or what resistance was involved.
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« Reply #1 on: <08-23-13/1407:37> »
Hmm? The example in the book says he scores 10 hits, and then sets the DV at 10. That seems to be accurate enough? Direct spells allow no damage soak test, by the way, so the door doesn't get one either.

I find it more amusing that armored glass is structure 8, armour 12, meaning anyone with a shotgun, AR or heavy pistol and some shooting skills (or, for the ruger super warhawk, very little shooting skill) can shoot clean through "bulletproof glass".

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« Reply #2 on: <08-23-13/1512:50> »
Hmm? The example in the book says he scores 10 hits, and then sets the DV at 10. That seems to be accurate enough? Direct spells allow no damage soak test, by the way, so the door doesn't get one either.
The text said he got 10 net hits, which made it sound like there was some kind of resistance test going on.Based on my reading, I figured it would still get one as there is a spellcasting resistance test provided for a person (Body or Willpower depending on the spell, I figured Structure subbed for Body in this case).

I think the main role of bulletproof glass in this case is to provide a transparent barrier that reduces damage rather than completly prevents it. Even real world "bulletproof glass" isn't entirely bulletproof depending on what's being fired at it.
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