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ChewyGranola

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« on: <10-05-16/1048:17> »
So having places like Redmond in most UCAS/CAS/Aztlan/CFS cities makes total sense, given the post Ghost Dance refugees and whatnot. But, LA aside, do NAN cities have similar areas? Do they have similar levels of SINless as well?

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« Reply #1 on: <10-05-16/1153:57> »
Different cities will all have different reasons for their barrens, but once you mix together poverty, no way out (due to lack of SIN), and high levels of crime, gangs, and addictions, the effect will be pretty similar, and pretty similarly stubborn to clean-up.  So in most places, by 2075, I think you can just say that the barrens just are, and most people don’t remember a time when they weren’t there, or how they got started.

But if you need reasons, there are plenty in the NAN too. 
-   In the various NAN nations there are probably plenty of SINless, as not everyone left who should have at the creation of the NAN states, and their descendents are probably just as screwed as the SINless are anywhere else.  I don’t have the NAN books from previous editions, so I don’t know, but I assume that in at least some of the NAN states some of the non-natives would end up with a sort of second class citizenship, which could also limit their opportunities and lead some to ending up in barrens.
-   There was probably also economic immigration into the cities as most of the NAN would have had pretty collapsed economies at their creation (massive economic, demographic, and legal disruption, lack of credit to keep businesses running, etc.), and people who are broke and hungry often move into cities where they hope there will be more opportunities. 
-   And then, sadly, people who grew up on some reserves would have inherited multiple generations of poverty, lack of education, and high levels of addictions, and many of them may have moved into cities (especially capitals) hoping for better -- only to find that this inheritance made it hard to get ahead anywhere.
-   Goblinization was a problem that no nation was ready for, and almost anywhere it is likely that some of the new orcs and trolls would have fled or been pushed out and formed their own gangs and/or ghettos, which in turn will tend to keep the entire area around them economically depressed.
-   A lot of the new NAN governments were not particularly savvy in business or legal matters, and were economically desperate early on, so may have signed deals with corporations which resulted in fairly toxic areas being left behind – at least poisoned enough to keep away people who have options, which in turn will tend to cause the desperate to congregate there, and between the poison and the poor it will tend to pull down adjacent areas.

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« Reply #2 on: <10-06-16/1740:13> »
Anglo reservations are definitely a thing in the NAN.  And they're every bit as nice as you think they are.

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« Reply #3 on: <10-06-16/1748:54> »
The treaty of Denver in 2018 forced millions of non-native people to relocate, depopulating the NAN territories. Abandoned neighborhoods and ghost towns would have been commonplace across the NAN for the first few decades after the treaty, and although some of those areas would have been reclaimed since, many undoubtedly remain, attracting squatters, criminals, SINless, and others.

Some percentage of non-natives would have chosen to remain in defiance of the treaty, leading to a generation of illegal anglo SINless surviving off the grid in remote corners of the NAN.

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« Reply #4 on: <10-06-16/2019:43> »
Poverty is a universal problem, so yes there are barren style areas in the NAN.

They my not be as big as in the UCAS/CAS, but they are still there.

And yes, there are dozens and dozens of ghost/dying towns all through out NAN territory.

While I don't know US native american populations, but in there is only about 2.6 million Native American and Metis... now factor in VITAS deaths....

Basically it means the population of Vancouver, living in 3 provinces.... or about 1 person per 37 sq kilometers... (so, empty)
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