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« Reply #15 on: <10-18-12/1139:33> »
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Shadows of physical objects in the astral plane may be drab and insubstantial, but they are still opaque and can prevent targeting. Items that are transparent or mirrored in the real world (like a car window) simply impair visibility as astral shadows.
In which case, contact lenses/glasses would hardly affect astral sight at all. The would be more like wearing sunglasses indoors, they darken your view, but don't really inhibit it.

Zilfer

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« Reply #16 on: <10-18-12/1205:08> »
Though I'd like to know if Glass still has "magnifying" properties in Astral. Meaning it will look duller (like sunglasses) but might magnify? Say like using a spyglass in astral? Since we know it now doesn't "block" the view fully? An interesting thought, I'll have to think on it.
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« Reply #17 on: <10-18-12/1213:08> »
This just in, impaired vision is hardly an effect at all...what?

What does impaired mean to you?

If a sense is impaired it is significantly weakened, damaged, or deteriorated. Visual impairment is often represented as things such as partial blindness and total blindness. It's not a minor issue.

Minimum of -3 and I would be willing to strongly lean toward the -6/auto fail side of things looking at Reduced Sense for a guideline (judging that it actually mentions the sense being impaired.)

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« Reply #18 on: <10-18-12/1229:12> »
This just in, impaired vision is hardly an effect at all...what?

What does impaired mean to you?

If a sense is impaired it is significantly weakened, damaged, or deteriorated. Visual impairment is often represented as things such as partial blindness and total blindness. It's not a minor issue.

Minimum of -3 and I would be willing to strongly lean toward the -6/auto fail side of things looking at Reduced Sense for a guideline (judging that it actually mentions the sense being impaired.)

Impairment i'll give you can be an multitude of things, however I believe Impairment is used sparingly when talking about blindness.

The doctor's say I have a "sight impairment" because I wear glasses. BUT despite this if I take my glasses off i can still see fairly well. Enough to function and read most standard script printed for signs that aren't more than 50feet or more away then comes some difficulty. When my glasses have broken in the past, I had gone 2 weeks without suffering any head aches from having to "focus" my eyes.

Also impairment can also mean something blocking your vision as in the case you are making. For example a van moving in the way of a statue can impair your vision of the statue. I think the context is more leaning towards that you can still see through it however, which in my humble oppinion, i think is ok for "glass". I wouldn't allow seeing through it for walls. But glass yes.
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« Reply #19 on: <10-18-12/1243:29> »
I guess I'm getting the exact opposite from it. Instead of offering transparency or mirroring effects in the astral, they just impair vision. So you're not going to see that aura reflected in the mirror's astral shadow, because it's just a grey blob.

I guess the reason I see it this way is because they combined "transparent or mirrored" into the same clause. There is no reason I should be able to see through my bathroom mirror, but not the just as normally opaque wall beside it. Instead it just impairs vision just like every other astral shadow. Transparent objects are, by the same clause, in the same shadow.

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« Reply #20 on: <10-18-12/1256:21> »
I'm trying to remember if the astral pictures have any "reflective" ness in them for like surfaces that would act like mirrors. Unforunately, i'm not home but I think there is a bit of that in the one where it looks like a mage is walking into a bar..... I could be wrong.

It might also make sense as to why you can cast through "mirrors" out of astral as well.
« Last Edit: <10-18-12/1259:16> by Zilfer »
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« Reply #21 on: <10-19-12/0751:45> »
I guess I'm getting the exact opposite from it. Instead of offering transparency or mirroring effects in the astral, they just impair vision. So you're not going to see that aura reflected in the mirror's astral shadow, because it's just a grey blob.

I guess the reason I see it this way is because they combined "transparent or mirrored" into the same clause. There is no reason I should be able to see through my bathroom mirror, but not the just as normally opaque wall beside it. Instead it just impairs vision just like every other astral shadow. Transparent objects are, by the same clause, in the same shadow.

That's exactly what I'm egtting out of it, too. Instead of allowing your vision to pass through or bounce back (allow me to simplify it with such terms) it just impairs (stops) it.

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« Reply #22 on: <10-19-12/0923:15> »
Which is a needed specification because with physical (non astral) line of sight you can cast through the item/reflection. It's important to know things work differently on the astral side.