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My Spirit Shaman, Jaha Marul. Please tell me what you think about it?

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« Reply #30 on: <10-05-12/2005:27> »
If I was your GM, I would have the more powerful spirits start getting pissy at you if you keep channeling them (or using them to sustain spells). I might have them warn you, and if you don't pay attention, might start having them spending Edge to resist your summoning/binding (which would probably knock you unconscious, or possibly just kill you dead). I would then ask you to roll up a non-mage (or at least, a non-conjuring mage) if you wanted to continue playing.

Besides, even using unbound spirits, you're looking at 3-4 physical drain every time you summon a Force 7-8. If they decide to spend Edge, because they're feeling abused? Try 7-9 physical.

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Spirits are not evil, but rather quicksilver otherworldly entities of inconstant nature. Some are channeled into the physical world through natural things, while others are messengers of higher realms, but all are volatile, hard to appease, and easily angered.
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Lesson: Don't abuse spirits. They can abuse you back.
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« Reply #31 on: <10-05-12/2016:15> »
Ran the numbers, a Force 8 spirit that resists summoning with edge (predeclaring) is likely to floor you (if you spend edge), possibly kill you (if you don't).

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« Reply #32 on: <10-06-12/0522:02> »
If I was your GM, I would have the more powerful spirits start getting pissy at you if you keep channeling them (or using them to sustain spells). I might have them warn you, and if you don't pay attention, might start having them spending Edge to resist your summoning/binding (which would probably knock you unconscious, or possibly just kill you dead). I would then ask you to roll up a non-mage (or at least, a non-conjuring mage) if you wanted to continue playing.

Besides, even using unbound spirits, you're looking at 3-4 physical drain every time you summon a Force 7-8. If they decide to spend Edge, because they're feeling abused? Try 7-9 physical.

Remember:
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Spirits are not evil, but rather quicksilver otherworldly entities of inconstant nature. Some are channeled into the physical world through natural things, while others are messengers of higher realms, but all are volatile, hard to appease, and easily angered.
-Digital Grimoire, on Rasta tradition.

Lesson: Don't abuse spirits. They can abuse you back.

You misundorstude me i dont abuses my spirits, in fact i ask them and thank them every thing, i also talks with them sometimesand i dont have them do pitty things like "bring me coffe" or something like that.

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« Reply #33 on: <10-06-12/0549:30> »
Remember:
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Spirits are not evil, but rather quicksilver otherworldly entities of inconstant nature. Some are channeled into the physical world through natural things, while others are messengers of higher realms, but all are volatile, hard to appease, and easily angered.
-Digital Grimoire, on Rasta tradition.

Lesson: Don't abuse spirits. They can abuse you back.

You misunderstood me; I don't abuse my spirits. In fact I ask them, thank them, and everything, I also talk with them sometimes and I don't have them do petty things like "bring me coffee" or something like that.

And that, right there, is where I like to break out Rule Zero just a little, in conjunction with the suggestion that the GM treat the Spirits like individual NPCs:

I'll generally keep track of how everyone, not just the Magician, treats the spirits. The exact degree depends on the Tradition, but those results will  adjust how much the Spirit actually works towards the best interests of the group and its members. I imagine Christian Theurge spirits will be more innately inclined to be 'helpful' than Black Magic demons, for example.

If the Street Sam has been treating the Guardian Spirit using Conceal on him well, for example, he might get a heads up about a threat he missed, or even a 'complementary' Counterspell assist if the group Mage isn't in position to do it. If Sammie-boy has been a douche, though, he might even get some inconveniently dangerous half-truths if not compelled to be honest via a Service, while the Magician, who treats the spirit great, will still get five-star performance when tasking the spirit directly.

Think of it like a Loyalty rating, for your Spirits... or maybe Faction Rep would be a better analogy, since it can go negative.
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« Reply #34 on: <10-06-12/0909:20> »
You misundorstude me i dont abuses my spirits, in fact i ask them and thank them every thing, i also talks with them sometimesand i dont have them do pitty things like "bring me coffe" or something like that.
If you have spirit possessing your constantly? Oh yes, they will be annoyed with you, unless it's an ally spirit, or you have some free-spirit pact-esque deal with it.

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« Reply #35 on: <10-08-12/1043:48> »
A spirit isn't an annoying girlfriend you can please with a little time and attention. They're (often) there against their will, made to do the bidding of beings far weaker then them.

I'd be a little miffed, too.

Imo, you should be allowed to build up a positive relation with your spirits, but only through constant RP, care and consideration for the dangers, etc...

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« Reply #36 on: <11-07-12/0801:15> »
A spirit isn't an annoying girlfriend you can please with a little time and attention. They're (often) there against their will, made to do the bidding of beings far weaker then them.

I'd be a little miffed, too.

Imo, you should be allowed to build up a positive relation with your spirits, but only through constant RP, care and consideration for the dangers, etc...

of course they summoned against their will. but how you threat them its another thing. And yes i care about how i threat them in the game, sometimes i even ask them too if they want to do something or dont. things like that etc.
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