[Aryeonos]

I think that quote belongs at the head of a character page, I might have to use it.

[Whiteblade111]

Are you still accepting players? I'm a bit of a new Shadowrunner, and I'm looking for a second game to supplement my time.

[Aryeonos]

I think we're full up currently.

[Mithlas]

Check your options, you might be paying more at character creation for your attribute increases than you should. An elf going to 8 charisma should cost as much as a human going to 6.

The cost to increase an attribute is (5 * New Level). While an elf would not pay as much as a human to go to Agility 5 due to having those first 2 die free, that doesn't mean that you're paying less to go from Agility 4 to Agility 5, that cost is always 20 karma. A human would pay 70 karma for 5 agility, the elf starts at 2 agility and would only pay 60 karma for 5 agility. I didn't notice chummer's optional rule, I've never heard of it before, and I don't like it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

9. No need for Edit. I relly on my memory so I dont have to make any notes. + everything I write into computer tends to disappear in the week. Enigmatic. I`ll find out what happens when I got the time for it.

Edit is a program that anybody using computers might use. It's not necessary just to write notes - that's like being able to use a computer for email or such without necessarily having the Computer active skill. Edit is used when you want to alter a recording - for example, a hacker and noticed a security camera observe your face while on a run. The hacker hacks into that camera's node and uses Edit to remove his face so there is no record of his presence. I would imagine that an investigator would have enough of the hacker role that you might have Edit.

Empathy Software: I've received PMs about concern regarding Empathy software, and since nobody's got it as an important element of the character concept I'm tossing it for this game. All of you look well-prepared enough that this shouldn't be an issue.

Confirmed Characters
All4BigGuns: Sidhe - SURGE'd elf B&E and close combat
Aryeonos: Nidhogg - Naga psionic magician, face

Comments
mtfeeney: Baron - SURGE'd elf magician, conjurer
I think that your character is pretty good (minus the empathy software), though I think that the mafia Don is not a core aspect of the character and might better be represented by the multi-region magic Group Contact. Alternately, the Talismonger might be easily substituted by a magic group. The issue is that initiatory groups tend to do more than only initiation, and I don't want to okay a free group group contact, particularly one with extensive magic resources. Based on your earlier post, it seems like that's more of an important aspect of the character concept and plan. If you want to shift it so that you need to pick up the magic initiation group later then you wouldn't start with the group discount but you wouldn't have to worry about any of the costs of a magic group.

Mirikon: The matrix condition monitor =8+(system/2), not the full system, making 8+3, which comes to 11. (I looked it up in RC page 89 because I'd never made an AI character before). After reading some more through the books, I don't want to allow the Shiawase Arms Tactical Model 73, but the rest of your gear looks good (except the empathy software being left aside for this game). I find it amusing that you have more environmental gear, as an AI wielding a drone, than any of the organic members.

I still haven't seen any revised sheets (or chummer files at all) for RHat or Sichr. That's the crew we're looking at right now.

[Sichr]

My .zip is posted a few pages back. Also available on omae, search by author: sichr. Char: andreas boil

[RHat]

I'm still working on revising to get the right feel...  Having to deal with the increased cost of raising attributes AND pay for the metatype is making it a bit of a difficult balance to strike ...  Will finish tonight, I expect.

Also:  Runner's Companion is pretty explicit on the point that initiatory groups and submersion networks are not typically group contacts.

[Sichr]

As for edit, Ive just forgot about a few things not directly linked to concept, and as said before, Ive marked char as created. To tell the truth, the only use i ever had for Edit was when i was hacker, and this is not the case. Its a few bucks, can be downloaded in game if needed.

[RHat]

For non-hackers, the best thing to do is often to get one of the FTL program packages, which as I recall contain everything you'll have need for for a pretty decent price.

[Sichr]

Btw tossing means empathy is not alowed? Since it is not necesary, but i have almost full scale of sensor sw and I intend to use it if situation calls for it.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

I need to make my magic group into a group contact?

If empathy software is gone, that means all of the other sensor softwares are gone as well, correct?  The empathy software was actually part of my core character.  I purchased a high performance commlink specifically for it along with optimization for that software.

[Aryeonos]

Things like empathy software and skillwires are more wageslave, and robotic greeter things, I thought your character was something of an academic, and a mage, who are usually body purists, the idea just seems on opposite ends of things. Though wage mages, and anyone else in the mud making a living bend that rule as necessary. Unlike loftier mages who are just sitting up in their tower (30th floor office) writing dissertations on magical theory for their money.

I'm not telling you how to build your guy, it just seems at odds with itself.

[Mithlas]

@RHat: I've re-read Runner's Companion 126, and I think I agree now that initiation groups are not necessarily group contacts - though they can easily be converted from a suitable group contact. Of course, without paying for a group contact they will not be valid for any use contacts are used for. If you want to go to your initiation group for information, goods, or anything like that, you'd need a Group Contact, but if it's just initiation then it's in rules as specified.

Nobody has empathy software as the focal point of their character. It's a useful tool, but it's not critical for anybody. Due to this, and one's discomfort with it, I don't think that it being not allowed for PCs or NPCs will be an issue. Other sensor software is still valid - it isn't as encompassing and fewer people have an issue with Weapon Identification or Lie Detection.

@ Sichr: I have it now, and now I have a couple questions.
1) A Cranial Bomb is normally a very serious threat forced on the PC, is it something he put in himself? Forced into him by the doctor? Something from an unknown source that he hasn't discovered yet?

2) Although you can stack most of these armors, but that would result in a lot of encumbrance.
 
3) You have a large spread of skills, but the only skills that you have much focus in is Influence. It fits with the character concept, but most characters specialize in two or three things. Was this your intention?

[All4BigGuns]

Slight alterations made after switching the Barrett out for a sporting rifle.

[Mirikon]

Erg. Taking out my primary weapon hurts bad. Now I'm looking for a good weapon to replace it with, and still be able to get both RC and keep it quiet.

[All4BigGuns]

Erg. Taking out my primary weapon hurts bad. Now I'm looking for a good weapon to replace it with, and still be able to get both RC and keep it quiet.

You could try the Mordred or my old standby, the HK 227-X.