[Ninja137]

Barring cyberlimb armor stacking, what is the highest armor you can achieve? Does the Full Milspec armor actually come out on top, or does something else just entirely take the cake?

[Mithlas]

With the heights that a maxed-body troll can wear, stacked armor can easily exceed any single-unit armor like milspec. It's kind of funny if you think about it, but I'll let one of the veterans of the board who actually directly know about one of the ungodly durable trolls can do.

[Ninja137]

Could you technically just stack Form-Fitting armor repeatedly on a Bod 15 troll? It'd only count for 1 armor encumberance after Smart-Weave, so you'd be able to get 180 Balistic/90 Impact?

I know it wouldn't be intended, but would it technically work by RAW?

[Medicineman]

Could you technically just stack Form-Fitting armor repeatedly on a Bod 15 troll?

FFBA can't be stacked with itself (not in the German Erratta ) only with OTHER Armor

He who dances with himself
Medicineman

[FuelDrop]

Our friendly neighborhood troll tank has two modes:
Offensive = Armour jacket + FFBA + full Securetech + Ballistic mask/helmet + MG on gyromount.
Defensive = As above except + Ballistic Shield and replace MG with Machine pistol.

Yes, he has proper milspec if needed, but most of the time it's not viable.

[RHat]

Why a machine pistol?  He's only at a -1 penalty with an assault rifle to use it one-handed.

[FuelDrop]

Why a machine pistol?  He's only at a -1 penalty with an assault rifle to use it one-handed.

Because he can hide it under his jacket when he's not on a run. I am expecting him to upgrade when he gets a bit of money behind him.

[Aryeonos]

And MP's classically are used with ballistic shields in raids!

[JoeNapalm]

And MP's classically are used with ballistic shields in raids!

 

Usually, a ballistic shield-man would carry a pistol, with a cover guy using a long gun.

Police tend to eschew machine pistols here, as Spray-n-Pray tends to lead to a LOT of paperwork. The red tape is bad enough if you shoot a bad guy, but when you start hitting innocent bystanders, nuns, kids, pets...

Man, do you have any idea the amount of scrutiny they'd come under if they hit a dog?!

In the United States, anyway.

Maybe, in less civilized places, they're okay with stray rounds hitting stray dogs. But here, in America, you can only shoot your own dog.     

Where was I? Right...shields.

While in reality, they tend to be used mostly by Law Enforcement, I think shields are one of the most overlooked pieces of gear - my Troll Mage owns one, keeps it in the van for a bad day. I mean, he's a Troll, he doesn't carry a long gun, and once they figure out he's a Mage he's Gank Priority One...nice to have a solid wall to carry around for cover.


-Jn-
City of Brass Expatriate

[Aryeonos]

All my first response OMON squads carry shields and usually MPs or SMGs with officers behind them with either ARs or shotguns, and grenade launchers with CS gas and the like. But I've never encountered a case where officers loose their shit and switch from I to IIIII on the fire selector. Having a compact gun that you have to reload infrequently while you're providing literal cover for the rest of your team comes in handy.

[JoeNapalm]

All my first response OMON squads carry shields and usually MPs or SMGs with officers behind them with either ARs or shotguns, and grenade launchers with CS gas and the like. But I've never encountered a case where officers loose their shit and switch from I to IIIII on the fire selector. Having a compact gun that you have to reload infrequently while you're providing literal cover for the rest of your team comes in handy.

Yeah, because OMON units have never done anything like that.

Models of restraint, those OMON units.

Oh, wait..they're totally not.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[UmaroVI]

Shields kind of depend on what that "all physical tests (including attacks)" actually means.

As for maximum "worn" armor (you can get armor from things other than that and cyberlimbs like orthoskin and whatever but they generally aren't very good), it depends on how your GM things Weaves from Attitude work, namely: can you stack the different weave types, can you stack the same weave type, if so does it have to be on different armor pieces?

It then also depends on how many pieces of head armor your GM will let you wear.

[JoeNapalm]

It then also depends on how many pieces of head armor your GM will let you wear.

...

Okay...I'll bite.

How is that in question?

Do people want to wear riot helmets over their SecurTech PPP hockey helmet?

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[Kiirnodel]

It then also depends on how many pieces of head armor your GM will let you wear.

...

Okay...I'll bite.

How is that in question?

Do people want to wear riot helmets over their SecurTech PPP hockey helmet?

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Quite frankly, yes.

There have been many discussions on that exact topic and I suggest we don't go into it here...

[JoeNapalm]

It then also depends on how many pieces of head armor your GM will let you wear.

...

Okay...I'll bite.

How is that in question?

Do people want to wear riot helmets over their SecurTech PPP hockey helmet?

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Quite frankly, yes.

There have been many discussions on that exact topic and I suggest we don't go into it here...

-Jn-
City of Brass Expatriate