[Mantis]

OK. Good, then I haven't been doing this wrong all this time. Looking at the rules, I had always assumed that it was a case of not needing to mention the same rule multiple times but there is frequently some confusion about that on these boards. See threads like the one on Specific trumps General for some examples. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't a case of something like that.

[Sichr]

I have a feeling this discussion ain`t over

[CanRay]

A pointless LMG is one without a bayonet. 

[Michael Chandra]

Alright, what dumbass gave Mungo a Vindicator with melee hardening?

[CanRay]

Alright, what dumbass gave Mungo a Vindicator with melee hardening?

Mungo dexxozed itz frum da Enemy Streat Salami an' den mad itz hiz ownz!  An datz whi Mungo uzez datacable fer da GunnyLinxxorz.

[Sichr]

A pointless LMG is one without a bayonet. 

And you know what minigun with byonet is?

The blender.

[Angelone]

It slices it dices, it makes julienne fries!

[Lacynth40]

Great... Now I'm imagining a troll with a minigun, and he's mounted a bayonet on each of the barrels... Just this big shit eating grin on his face. "Ammo ain't a problem, I just need to get close." Barrels spin up in that ominous whine...

[5-0 Deuce]

did some research on the 'Pointless LMG'

Firstly (as some of you have stated) Its a damn mini-gun, so clearly your volume of fire is going to be more. Sure the negative connotation is that it uses more bullets in a burst or in suppressing fire, but that's also more targets / object to get chewed up by the little monster.

That brings me to my second point...as per rules / guidelines for a mini-gun: (Arsenal book, Pg.30) "Mini-guns impose a -14 dice pool modifier on the attack roll. A narrow burst applies a +14 DV modifier to the attack, while a wide burst applies a -14 dice pool modifier to the defenders dice pool."

I would argue that this weapon is not pointless at all and I can understand why you have to dish out the extra cred. I'm not saying every street sam should walk around with one, however, if you have a turret on a vehicle and the opportunity to...why wouldn't you?

Heres a cool guy video showing SWWC and a minigun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2OX7xtSZo

[Csjarrat]

the thing i'm not sure about is that it just says a -14 dice pool modifier. it doesn't say it is recoil.
that means you're gonna need like agi 5, smartlink (+2) and heavy weaps 6 (8:miniguns) to even get 1 dice to throw at that test.
Or am i just being daft and reading it wrong?

[Michael Chandra]

It's a shortened version of rules since it's in a sidebar, it follows the default "Bullets-1 Recoil".

[Csjarrat]

fair enough! yeah it'd make for a fairly healthy vehicle weapon then :-)

[firebug]

Christ.  XD  I started this thread almost a month ago, and I got my answer on the first page.  What have you all been discussing for the next four pages?  A huge discussion on gas vents, it seems.  XP

[Mantis]

That, and blenders. 

[CanRay]

That, and blenders. 

"Today on 'Will It Blend', Mungo!"  "Ah donn lahk dis."