[Xenon]

You do know it only take a simple toolkit (500¥) and one single hit on a Hardware + Logic [Mental] test to restore full functionality in a bricked device, right?

If you don't have Hardware skill you can even default.
Defaulting Attribute for Hardware is Logic

Can a hardware check be used to fix my brain when my datajack explodes...

Why would your brain get damaged and why would your datajack explode....?

[Emil_Barr]

Aren't Reaction Enhancers capped at 3?

They go up to 4 I believe, but the availability is too high to get at char gen.

A dev also stated that used wear isnt available at char gen. I dont remember of it was on here, dumpshock, or somewhere else.

[All4BigGuns]

Nope they stop at 3.

Reaction Enhancers (Rating 1-3) Rating x 0.3 — (Rating x 5)R Rating x 13,000¥

[Emil_Barr]

Nope they stop at 3.

Reaction Enhancers (Rating 1-3) Rating x 0.3 — (Rating x 5)R Rating x 13,000¥

Alrighty, wasnt entirely sure on that one.

Either way, its used ware so if what that dev said was true it cant been taken anyway. Might show up in an erratta sometime.

I think thats dumb though, so Id probably allow it at my table

[All4BigGuns]

Nope they stop at 3.

Reaction Enhancers (Rating 1-3) Rating x 0.3 — (Rating x 5)R Rating x 13,000¥

Alrighty, wasnt entirely sure on that one.

Either way, its used ware so if what that dev said was true it cant been taken anyway. Might show up in an erratta sometime.

I think thats dumb though, so Id probably allow it at my table

Your call, but personally I'd rather pretend that Used 'grade' didn't exist.

[Emil_Barr]

Nope they stop at 3.

Reaction Enhancers (Rating 1-3) Rating x 0.3 — (Rating x 5)R Rating x 13,000¥

Alrighty, wasnt entirely sure on that one.

Either way, its used ware so if what that dev said was true it cant been taken anyway. Might show up in an erratta sometime.

I think thats dumb though, so Id probably allow it at my table

Your call, but personally I'd rather pretend that Used 'grade' didn't exist.

I personally almost never take used ware, even in SR4. I dont even like having my ESS below 1 if I can help it.

Though, with the increased ware prices in SR5, alphaware is too expensive to get unless you take A for resources., so Ive had to learn to live with it.

[MadBear]

Ware prices in general are up, but prices for Alpha and Beta are much lower. x 1.2 vs x 2 in 4th. To me that makes it definitely worth it.

[Emil_Barr]

How much does an A WR 1 cost in SR4 vs SR5 in actual ¥? Sorry, dont have the books in front of me atm to check.

[All4BigGuns]

How much does an A WR 1 cost in SR4 vs SR5 in actual ¥? Sorry, dont have the books in front of me atm to check.

Rating 1
11,000 in SR4A (22,000 for Alpha)
30,000 in SR5 (36,000 for Alpha)

Rating 2
32,000 in SR4A (64,000 for Alpha)
149,000 in SR5 (178,800 for Alpha)

Rating 3
100,000 in SR4A (200,000 for Alpha)
217,000 in SR5 (260,400 for Alpha)

[Crunch]

Am I remembering correctly that 3 was a lot more expensive?

[All4BigGuns]

Am I remembering correctly that 3 was a lot more expensive?

It was, but then you could get more than double the character generation resources compared to what can be gotten now.

[Emil_Barr]

How much does an A WR 1 cost in SR4 vs SR5 in actual ¥? Sorry, dont have the books in front of me atm to check.

Rating 1
11,000 in SR4A
30,000 in SR5

Rating 2
32,000 in SR4A
149,000 in SR5

Rating 3
100,000 in SR4A
217,000 in SR5

So even with the lower costs for Alpha, its still more expensive because the base cost offsets it.
Its just that you can start with almost twice the money now.  Which WR 2 costs almost 4x as much in SR5, and you cant even get that as alpha at char gen anymore.

I usually start at C resources, cause I like being able to have more skills than just my combat ones. But I guess thats just me.

[All4BigGuns]

How much does an A WR 1 cost in SR4 vs SR5 in actual ¥? Sorry, dont have the books in front of me atm to check.

Rating 1
11,000 in SR4A
30,000 in SR5

Rating 2
32,000 in SR4A
149,000 in SR5

Rating 3
100,000 in SR4A
217,000 in SR5

So even with the lower costs for Alpha, its still more expensive because the base cost offsets it.
Its just that you can start with almost twice the money now.  Which WR 2 costs almost 4x as much in SR5, and you cant even get that as alpha at char gen anymore.

I usually start at C resources, cause I like being able to have more skills than just my combat ones. But I guess thats just me.

Look at the edit. I added the Alpha-ware cost.

[Emil_Barr]

Look at the edit. I added the Alpha-ware cost

Ok, so lookin at that, the difference for an A WR II is about 3x and not the 4x that standard ware costs.

And you cant get an A WR II in SR5 char gen anyway, so I guess it doesnt matter all that much anyway.

[DoubleTap]

so under the new edition, I have to have wireless?  Why am I not happy about giving some one a way to mess with my cyber ware?