[Celtibero]

sry for being slow to post these last couple of days but i was sick.

the cyberarm, it shoudl actually be:
obvious full arm
+customization (agility) 3
+customization (strenght) 3
+enhancement (agility) 3

that was what i intended, 3 base+3 to raise to racial limits and +3 for the custom works on the chrome

alphaware:
cyberarm
bone density aug
wired reflexes
cybereyes
cyberdeck
commlink

and that puts the essence at .17

on a secondary note, further into the game, how do you handle the essence? will it be a essence hole? for instance, lets say he goes under surgery to remove the wired reflexes to replace it for a rate 2 synaptic booster, does he remain at .17 with .6 in essence that allows for further cyberware up to that rate?

i had to alter the config of the cyberarm, remove the implanted SMG and downgrade the fake SIN to keep the inventory spending from not overflowing.

i also had the clothing in my sheet that i did not include in the updated sheet, ill do it as soon as i post this one up.

the datasofts, i am still working on the content of them, should have it updated asap, same for the shoftsofts and mapsofts.

ill update the reaction and initiative to reflect that the Wired reflexes might not always be on then



Edit: updated the sheet on page 5

[ismilealot]

Joe, as memory serves Hacking is still illegal in 2075, so think of a legal name to hide your hacking programs in lol.

Trisk I really do think Hacking on the Fly is a very expensive cost for that Karma, but since most of the Hacking will be the decker I'm ok with it if you are. I'll still entertain suggestions from the shadow gallery out there though for something else.

Celtibero, ty for fixing the gear and the essence. I can absolutely see your concerns as you are so far down on essence you can't afford more loss. Sooooo, if you replace gear with better, with a lower essence cost I will let you add ½ of the difference in gain. Once you fold the paper it never truly lays flat again.

Ok, for the meet & greet to mesh backstories I have today off & tomorrow off an then 7 days of brutal. Can any of the party do a meet and greet this evening say 4pm EST, that's GMT -5? or tomorrow morning EST 6am. or EST 3pm. I've added all of you who's Skype names I have to a Skype contact group already. Makes real time notifications possible.

[Agonar]

Celtibero, ty for fixing the gear and the essence. I can absolutely see your concerns as you are so far down on essence you can't afford more loss. Sooooo, if you replace gear with better, with a lower essence cost I will let you add ½ of the difference in gain. Once you fold the paper it never truly lays flat again.

Smiles, the Official method is the Essence Hole.  Basically, once you've spent the essence, you never get it back, but you don't have to spend it again.

So, you start with 6 Essence, and buy a 3 point augment.  You are now at 3 Essence, and 3 has been spent on gear.  Say a month later, you pull all that gear out, and get new replacements for those parts that cost 1.5 Essence.  You are still at 3 Essence, but only have 1.5 worth of stuff in you, so you can go out and buy 1.5 essence worth of stuff to fill in what you've already spent, without losing more Essence, and dropping below 3.  You don't lose any more essence until you have more than 3 points of augments installed.

[ismilealot]

*blows kiss* Ty Ag. Always easy to see why ilu Ag.

[joe15552]

Joe, as memory serves Hacking is still illegal in 2075, so think of a legal name to hide your hacking programs in lol.

If it was illegal, then all the hacking programs and decks would be forbidden. They are not forbidden, they are restricted, and so is hacking. I am trying to obtain a fake licenses to partake in that restricted activity with those restricted programs using that restricted equipment. If that's not viable in your game, then I shouldn't buy any licenses at all, and just stick with my fake SIN and try to hide everything else.

[Celtibero]

on a fake SIN rate 4 just go with a plausible activity say the guy is an "security consultant" or "programmer"  or even a "software developer" its not the same as saying "I am a legal hacker" because if you are not part of GOD or a corporate spider (and they would not be called hackers)... there is no such thing as legal hacking... even a corporation hacking into each other is not legal and would be addressed (if it came to light that is) by the corporate court. that is ofc my pov

edit: take guns for instance, its not restricted ot forbidden to carry some of them, but as far as i know killing a person (if he has a SIN at least...) is not exactly legal if you get the drift...

[Tenlaar]

... there is no such thing as legal hacking...

Don't mind me popping my head in, but I just wanted to point out, there are in fact legal hackers right now.  They are people hired by companies to test their security and try to find weak points.  It just struck me as an interesting day job for a runner (especially one with a corp SIN NQ).

[joe15552]

... there is no such thing as legal hacking...

Don't mind me popping my head in, but I just wanted to point out, there are in fact legal hackers right now.  They are people hired by companies to test their security and try to find weak points.  It just struck me as an interesting day job for a runner (especially one with a corp SIN NQ).

.... and spiders

[Tenlaar]

Spiders are basically matrix guards though, right?  I freely admit that matrix stuff is my only real weakness left in my rules understanding, they just struck me as focusing more on the defensive side of things.  I suppose the best defense against a matrix attack could be to nuke the hacker.

Surely corps would have separate teams who's job is to try to beat the spiders.  I wonder what they're called?

[Agonar]

... there is no such thing as legal hacking...

Don't mind me popping my head in, but I just wanted to point out, there are in fact legal hackers right now.  They are people hired by companies to test their security and try to find weak points.  It just struck me as an interesting day job for a runner (especially one with a corp SIN NQ).

.... and spiders

Spiders would probably have a Corp SIN, meaning that they can fall back to Corp immunity if they are picked up/harassed by Lone Star or Knight Errant.  They wouldn't have to worry about licensing their equipment.. but even so, they would probably have legit licenses tied to that Corp SIN.  Same with Company-employed hackers, aka, Security Spiders.

Just remember..  any Sleaze/Attack action pretty much automatically start your OS..  The only ones who really don't have to worry about OS, are those Spiders, and legit Deckers that are working in Hosts, G-Men, etc..  If your character is not one of those select few that don't have to worry about their OC, then you are, in fact, hacking illegally.

Now, you can buy a fake SIN that might label you as a security Spider, and have fake licenses for your deck/programs to corroborate that story.  Or, you can forgo licenses, hoping that you can back up the fake SIN, or just bluff the hell out of anyone that stops you and finds your gear.  But don't try fooling yourself into thinking that hacking is legal, just because the related gear is Restricted, and not Forbidden.

[ismilealot]

My further explanation on the subject was going to be: “
And that was my point Joe. Yes in today's world there are absolutely corporate hackers. Their real job is to try and hack into other corps security and steal secrets. But, that is absolutely not their title and if they get caught the corp tries to disavow all knowledge, “ie John Doe was absolutely acting on his own in this instance and has been fired, and woops, you can't ask him any questions because he's been the unfortunate victim of an accident.”  What I think of those licenses as is a legal trail that the officers won't question. The better the rating, the better the job someone did at hiding the illegal in a very, very legal system when someone actually does start nosing around and asking questions. The better the rating the more likely you can even get a job at the place your trying to hack into because your credentials check out on a preliminary scan. So, my dear Decker, while you think of them as your hacking programs license, when "suits" start asking nosy questions like, "Why does a kid like you have this stuff as it's illegal to have it without a license? and Why do you have a license for it?. Why does a blogger need equip and software that can let them hack into high security systems? etc" What's the story you're going to spin, and what legal activity is it supposedly for? What's the legal title of that license? And it is absolutely your option to try and just go the illegal route with no cover story to explain your equip when you get caught. But, hacking is illegal, there's just a lot of legal jobs that use very similar skills and programs.

On another note. Drop dead date for backstories is the 22nd, no exceptions. ShadoWarrior we discussed yours and I'm happy with it if you are. But you need to post it. Your team mates need to know who they're working with. And the drop dead date applies to alternates as well. I've made the Obsidian Portal Page. I'll place plot point notes from sessions there as well as contact info and setting info, If you want to join it then you need to send me your Obsidian Portal Name. I've titled the PbP thread as Neverland. Those who've had their chara's ok'd please place them there. No takers on the meet & greet. So those of you who are in this game need to start workingout how you met/know each other etc in the thread.

[ShadoWarrior]

Thanks for pointing out what I need to fix on my character build.

RE: skills, of  course I'll revert the 3 skill group skills and Con to 5. I'll think about whether to spend the spare 5 karma during building or start the game with it.

RE: the allergy, I was expecting it to apply to all seafood (fish, crustaceans, etc.), and not just fancy hard-to-encounter stuff. I understand the concept of 'common'. But I wasn't aware of the usage of krill in the game. Which changes a 'common' allergy into an allergy to a ubiquitous substance (like high-fructose syrup in the real world) and a much more serious problem than a mere 15 points is worth. I'll change the allergy to something else, something more reasonable.

RE: his prejudice, if it's going to cause our group to frequently run into a dragon then please let me know and I'll pick something else to dislike. I'm not going to screw over our entire play group over a silly 5 point pick.

EDIT: almost forgot about the bone lacing. I'll have to give that mod a lot of thought. If it doesn't affect the derived stats, then it's not all that useful to someone who's not a razorguy. I may be able to find better uses for the money and  essence.

[ShadoWarrior]

On another note. Drop dead date for backstories is the 22nd, no exceptions. ShadoWarrior we discussed yours and I'm happy with it if you are. But you need to post it. Your team mates need to know who they're working with. And the drop dead date applies to alternates as well. I've made the Obsidian Portal Page.

I did post the backstory ... here, in public, where every player could see it. If you need me to post it on Obsidian Portal then I'll need the URL for your page, as I don't recall seeing you post a link to it in this thread. Please be aware that I'm not online every day, just 3-4 times a week. I'll next be online on Wednesday, so I'll post my revised character sheet then.

[joe15552]

Spiders are basically matrix guards though, right?  I freely admit that matrix stuff is my only real weakness left in my rules understanding, they just struck me as focusing more on the defensive side of things.  I suppose the best defense against a matrix attack could be to nuke the hacker.

Surely corps would have separate teams who's job is to try to beat the spiders.  I wonder what they're called?

Spiders almost always use Biofeedback and hot sim when dealing with an enemy hacker, unless the gm is trying to go easy on the hacker, or wants to be different.

Armor, Defuse, Guard, Shell, Sneak, Stealth, and Wrapper are programs that could be considered defensive, but they are called hacking programs.

[Celtibero]

come on m8, would you register a sniper rifle as "hunting rifle" or as a "human killer rifle" ? same thing with licence, its the perceived role, you don't walk to the Pawns and say "oh this, just read the permit, its the thing i use to shoot people around, Omae!"