[Novocrane]

I asked about this in the FBA thread, with no reply.

With regard to gas masks, chemical seals, internal air tanks, and other items that grant immunity to something; (in this case, immunity to inhalation toxins) is this dictionary-defined immunity, or Immunity as by p397-398 of the SR5 core book? How does one tell the difference?

[LionofPerth]

I believe on pg 408 of the Core Book, there are a number of lists in regards to what does what and the effects thereof.

Now I would say that Critter Immunity is not what they mean here. That Critters who are Immune to certain things can be still be hit by them to a certain degree, ie massive damage of that type.

In the case of the Chem Seal and Gas Mask, I'd say immune to the effects of, as long as the item is worn correctly, the internal air supply holds out and is not damaged in a way to render it useless. Basically, sit there in a room full of VX in your Chem Sealed armour, just don't be in there for more than an hour, the limit on the Gas Mask at least.

Hope that makes sense. 408 does explain a lot.

[Senko]

Unless you have the critter immunity to VX in which case after the hours up hope its less potent than your immunity.

[Novocrane]

p408 is actually what prompted the question; it uses the same phrasing as Immunity.

Gas masks, chemical seals, and active internal air tanks (p.455) provide immunity to inhalation toxins.

[Mirikon]

The immunity provided by certain gear is different from the critter power immunity. IMO, a gas mask means you don't have to roll the test against inhaled-vector toxins, provided the mask is well maintained, properly fitted, and in good working order. Now, if you were rushing to put on the mask (you see a gas grenade incoming, and pull it on, for instance), or were using a mask you just 'found', then I'd probably make you roll something to make sure you got everything on right

[ZeConster]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

[LionofPerth]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

It could be explained better. There's a difference, big difference that a capital letter isn't able to show.

[ZeConster]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

It could be explained better.

The list of things in SR5 books that could be explained better could fill a book.

[LionofPerth]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

It could be explained better.

The list of things in SR5 books that could be explained better could fill a book.

Where'd you want to start? Front cover? 

[SlowDeck]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

It could be explained better.

The list of things in SR5 books that could be explained better could fill a book.

Where'd you want to start? Front cover? 

If we included everything, it might be two books...

[Novocrane]

Basically, Immunity and immunity are different concepts in the book.

It could be explained better. There's a difference, big difference that a capital letter isn't able to show.

Agreed with both posts ... but it still niggles. Doesn't help that it's 'Immunity' on the protection charts.

[martinchaen]

Not to mention that all Inhalation vector toxins also has a contact vector. So, what does that I/immunity to Inhalation actually do? Squat, from what I can tell.

At our table, we've houseruled that having an immunity to one vector halves the power of a toxin with two vectors, one of which you're immune to. Your skin might still itch from being exposed to CS/Tear Gas, but it won't be as bad as if you'd taken a lung-full of it...

[Senko]

So which is the one you can purchase as a quality Immunity or immunity?

[ZeConster]

Not to mention that all Inhalation vector toxins also has a contact vector. So, what does that I/immunity to Inhalation actually do? Squat, from what I can tell.

Yeah, Aaron's been a bit vague about that too.

[Novocrane]

So which is the one you can purchase as a quality Immunity or immunity?

Natural Immunity.

The character can take one dose of the drug or poison and experience one exposure to the disease every six hours with no ill effects.

... which is to say, neither of the above.

Not to mention that all Inhalation vector toxins also has a contact vector.

There is Nausea Gas, for whatever that's worth.