[beastman420]

i have a question about cyberware can i put chamelon coating on my characters ware for stealth bonus couldnt i just add more to the cost?

[Namikaze]

I'm not sure I understand - cyberware is generally implanted into your body.  Are you talking about putting it on a dermal sheath?

[beastman420]

im talking like obvious cyberlimbs mostly like arms or other cyberlimbs not so much implants maybe maybe weapon implants

[Ryo]

im talking like obvious cyberlimbs mostly like arms or other cyberlimbs not so much implants maybe maybe weapon implants

Are you trying to look like you have a normal arm, or like you only have one arm? If its the first, that's what Synthetic Cyberlimbs are for.

[Namikaze]

Gotcha - I would probably allow a player to pick up a chameleon coating for the arm.  But there are far easier and less expensive ways to get stealthy, like a chameleon suit.

[beastman420]

whats a dermal sheath? is it like dermal plating implants

[Novocrane]

Dermal Sheath is a less obvious form of dermal armour than Dermal Plating. It also has the option of Electrochromic and Ruthenium Polymer Coatings in 4e.

I wouldn't allow RPC on the arm itself, but I would allow it on any armour installed into the arm, averaging the perception penalty across all limbs, and adding a modifier below Half (+0), Single Limb (-1). Essentially meaning you need Armour R2 and RPC R2 on a single limb for it to be of use in hiding.

Though this could get prohibitively expensive if you have a cyber body you want RPC'd. Adding it to orthoskin or dermal plating would be easier.

[Ryo]

I think it would be reasonable to allow a dermal sheath on synthetic limbs. They already have fake skin, so a dermal sheath or orthoskin could be used to replace it. Lord knows synthetic cyberlimbs need some kind of bonus, since they have half the capacity of an obvious limb for the same cost. I don't consider the concealability benefit very useful at all, since it doesn't apply to touch and does nothing against cyberware scanners. You'd be better off just wearing long sleeves and gloves with an obvious cyberlimb.

[AndyNakamura]

But how about going for a more chromed version of Major Kusanagi of GITS fame? Full body cyberware with RPC?

Although Essenc-wise, this would be straying dangerously into the cyberzombie territory.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

But how about going for a more chromed version of Major Kusanagi of GITS fame? Full body cyberware with RPC?

Although Essenc-wise, this would be straying dangerously into the cyberzombie territory.

... you do know that the good Major is a full-conversion 'borg, right?  The only thing meat about her is brain and spinal column??  I mean, I don't know how you could possibly get more chromed than her.

[Ryo]

But how about going for a more chromed version of Major Kusanagi of GITS fame? Full body cyberware with RPC?

Although Essenc-wise, this would be straying dangerously into the cyberzombie territory.

... you do know that the good Major is a full-conversion 'borg, right?  The only thing meat about her is brain and spinal column??  I mean, I don't know how you could possibly get more chromed than her.

I don't think she even has a meat brain and spine. Ghost in the Shell has cyberbrains. She's full borg.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Maybe in the anime.  I'm pretty sure that in the manga - at least originally - she's got her native brain and spinal colum.  IIRC, it's mentioned during one of the side stories, when she's watching a full-body conversion being done, and though I don't know for absolute certain, I believe having those is required to be classified as human.  After Batou gets her out at the end of the original, I grant that she'd had an entire ghost transplant (as it were), but up until then, she does have the original hardware 'upstairs'.

[Novocrane]

Ghost in the Shell has cyberbrains

This is true, but their definition of a cyberbrain is a little meatier.

http://ghostintheshell.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberbrain

http://ghostintheshell.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberbrain_Sclerosis

[AndyNakamura]

But how about going for a more chromed version of Major Kusanagi of GITS fame? Full body cyberware with RPC?

Although Essenc-wise, this would be straying dangerously into the cyberzombie territory.

... you do know that the good Major is a full-conversion 'borg, right?  The only thing meat about her is brain and spinal column??  I mean, I don't know how you could possibly get more chromed than her.

What I meant there is obvious cyberware vs. her synthetic.

[Novocrane]

Which is one thing, but in SR4 there is a process for removing a person's brain and installing it in a cranial containment unit, which can be connected to a drone. Similar concept, different results, and the obvious/synthetic question is moot.