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« on: <09-28-14/1728:57> »
Say I dont have a control rig and dont ever intend to jump into anything.
Can I still buy a RCC and use it as my commlink, mainly for the ability to use one autosoft on multiple drones?
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« Reply #1 on: <09-28-14/1729:35> »
Sure.
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« Reply #2 on: <09-28-14/1730:53> »
Absolutely. You don't need a datajack to operate a cyberdeck; it's the same concept.

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« Reply #3 on: <09-29-14/0202:55> »
It (the RCC) also let you send message to multiple drones auto pilots as one simple action.

Control rig is mostly for vehicle riggers. Drones being as fragile as they are, jumping into one is actually pretty dangerous. A dedicated rigger would probably get a control rig and skills to support both vehicle rigging and controlling drones...

If you only command the auto pilot to take the actions for you then you don't really need to invest into various skills either. Nothing but resources that stop a magician or street samurai to also be a drone rigger on the side.

If you only order around one or two drone(s) then you might as well just use your regular commlink... (everyone should probably do this, no matter what role you play - drones offer a lot of utility and support).

(You still need the skills if you want to actually remote control the drone -jumped in or not-; but I would leave that for your dedicated rigger...)
« Last Edit: <09-29-14/0209:11> by Xenon »

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« Reply #4 on: <09-29-14/1521:52> »
If you only command the auto pilot to take the actions for you then you don't really need to invest into various skills either. Nothing but resources that stop a magician or street samurai to also be a drone rigger on the side.

That's exactly what im thinking. Basically, All i'll need skillwise is armorer to mod them myself and Electronic warfare for making perception tests using their sensors, right?
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« Reply #5 on: <09-29-14/1541:46> »
Hardware skill if you want to be able to repair Matrix damage yourself. 

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« Reply #6 on: <09-29-14/1651:38> »
If you only command the auto pilot to take the actions for you then you don't really need to invest into various skills either. Nothing but resources that stop a magician or street samurai to also be a drone rigger on the side.

That's exactly what im thinking. Basically, All i'll need skillwise is armorer to mod them myself and Electronic warfare for making perception tests using their sensors, right?

Like Jim said, Hardware is good too. Electronic Warfare is also used to reduce noise through an RCC. You may also want to consider picking up a few ranks in Computer for Matrix Perception.

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« Reply #7 on: <09-29-14/1715:41> »
If you only command the auto pilot to take the actions for you then you don't really need to invest into various skills either. Nothing but resources that stop a magician or street samurai to also be a drone rigger on the side.

That's exactly what im thinking. Basically, All i'll need skillwise is armorer to mod them myself and Electronic warfare for making perception tests using their sensors, right?

Like Jim said, Hardware is good too. Electronic Warfare is also used to reduce noise through an RCC. You may also want to consider picking up a few ranks in Computer for Matrix Perception.

I don't think I've ever made a character who didn't have a couple ranks in computer.
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« Reply #8 on: <09-30-14/0602:23> »
...and Electronic warfare for making perception tests using their sensors...
They make their own perception tests using their own sensors and the clearsight (or electronic warfare) autosoft that either run on the drone or is being shared from your RCC.

You only use your own skills if you actually remote control your drones


Electronic Warfare is also used to reduce noise through an RCC.
There is no test involved when sending messages to the auto pilot ;)

Noise basically only affect you if you want to remote control your drones via the matrix using your own initiative and skills....
« Last Edit: <09-30-14/0606:25> by Xenon »

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« Reply #9 on: <09-30-14/0615:12> »
I don't think I've ever made a character who didn't have a couple ranks in computer.
I have. What use is Computer when you lack the Logic to even be able to properly perform a datasearch? Easier to just call up a contact then.
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« Reply #10 on: <09-30-14/0649:31> »
I don't think I've ever made a character who didn't have a couple ranks in computer.
I have. What use is Computer when you lack the Logic to even be able to properly perform a datasearch? Easier to just call up a contact then.
Flavour? Teamwork tests?

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« Reply #11 on: <09-30-14/0723:56> »
*shrugs* Adding a single die to their roll shouldn't really make a difference, and there's so many things I can shoot during the hours the Deckers are looking up information. I'd rather use my karma where it matters: Cash and survival.

Besides, it's rather plausible to not know a thing about Computers, plenty of people like that already, who can check their websites and that's that.
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« Reply #12 on: <09-30-14/0746:04> »
*shrugs*
And some of us like having character who aren't virtually computer illiterate. Your point about different play styles is once again noted; you'll note that not everyone shares your preferences. Cash and survival isn't the only things that matter for everyone, after all.

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« Reply #13 on: <09-30-14/0852:38> »
*shrugs*
And some of us like having character who aren't virtually computer illiterate. Your point about different play styles is once again noted; you'll note that not everyone shares your preferences. Cash and survival isn't the only things that matter for everyone, after all.
And some of us like being polite about having a difference in personal preferences. My characters having 2 dice instead of 4 doesn't make them "virtually computer illiterate" - there is a massive gap between Untrained and Unaware.
My Missions magician doesn't need any ranks in Computer - instead of trying a Data Search, he just asks the Horizon P2.0 doohickey he got for info. Meanwhile, my regular character, in addition to calling up her contacts (which adds flavor) more often since she can't Data Search for information, is more of a pen-and-paper person: her tendency to print important files and store them in a filing cabinet rather than on her commlink has actually added flavor at some point in our campaign when it was still 4th edition, because Erased doesn't affect ink.

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« Reply #14 on: <09-30-14/0856:09> »
Well, given how my posts, which explained why I wouldn't necessarily take Computer on some of my character builds, was in reply to someone else noting they always take Computer... Yeah, I already noted not everyone shares the opinion of not taking a few ranks Computer on a Street sam.  :) After all, that's what sparked the discussion in the first place. ;D

Anyway, I'm just noting that from my own perspective, I wouldn't contribute much with it so I'd instead take something that increases my tactical options or plays into an attribute I have on a decent level. At 5 Charisma taking a single point of Negotiation or Intimidation would be better, or driving at 8 Reaction, or Lockpicking and Throwing Weapons at 9 Agility, so if I have to leave out a low-rank skill, it'd be something working on that 2 Logic.

Yes, flavour and teamwork tests are valid arguments, but I think there's better ways for me personally to contribute to a group. Nothing wrong with other people making a different call, which is why I used a casual shrug rather than trying to logically debunk the argument. But I rather like having a weakness or two on my Street Samurai, with a complete lack of knowledge on how to properly search for info in the matrix and having to call up my contacts or depend on the Decker for all intel. It's something that's fun to play out as well.


Anyway, ZeConster, I already had a private convo with him and we both read rudeness into statements where none was intended, so it's all good. :) It's just the language barrier playing up.
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