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« Reply #15 on: <11-19-14/1512:29> »
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Why +10 to concealment though? If it can be mounted to a weapon with no loss in effectiveness it must not be a large and unwieldy as we think it is or gun performance would suffer

Er ... I don't mean to be rude, but how do you plan to hide a freaking Chainsaw on your person? A gun you can at least theoretically fold up some parts or take off some parts, but a Chainsaw doesn't really have any removable parts; you certainly don't want to be touching the blade. The concealment table is all about hiding it on your person, maybe you can argue in a bag, so I think it makes perfect sense.

As i said if you can mount a mono saw on a rifle, at conceal-ability +6, with no loss of gun or saw function and no addition to conceal-ability, why would just the saw itself then be more than +6?  If the gun can fold up or take some parts off, why couldnt the say have folding hand holds and removable safety guards ext?

Your probably right, especially since others have pointed out that chainsaws can be a lot more compact than I thought. I think my problem was that I had the image in my mind of the 7 foot giant chainsaw that is bigger than the person wielding it; which is not how most chainsaws are. So, I think I was probably wrong; you have a point.

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« Reply #16 on: <11-19-14/1519:51> »
you were thinking of this bad boy

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Oh warhammer 40k, what cant you make more awesome? All of my priest characters use eviscerators  8)
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« Reply #17 on: <11-19-14/1526:31> »
you were thinking of this bad boy

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Oh warhammer 40k, what cant you make more awesome? All of my priest characters use eviscerators  8)

Yeah, pretty much. That's kind of my default visual of a chainsaw  :)

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« Reply #18 on: <11-19-14/1605:44> »
Would a miniwelder not be both more effective and more easily concealed?

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« Reply #19 on: <11-19-14/1617:44> »
My opinion, Imveros? It SHOULD add a concealability penalty. So I disagree with the comparison. It's got a bulky engine, the saw is bigger than the barrel, so it's shaped in all dimensions to a harder-to-conceal shape, there's no way it's as easy to hide as an assault rifle and easier than a sniper rifle. The sniper rifle is at the least still slim, a chainsaw no way.
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« Reply #20 on: <11-19-14/1710:34> »
Would a miniwelder not be both more effective and more easily concealed?

The miniwelder is great, don't leave your home without it (Forearm guards are a great place to store them). But it should be only effective where steel or other metal is concerned. Otherwise you'll just start a pretty fire.

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« Reply #21 on: <11-19-14/1829:42> »
The miniwelder is great, don't leave your home without it (Forearm guards are a great place to store them). But it should be only effective where steel or other metal is concerned. Otherwise you'll just start a pretty fire.

Oh, I like this idea! And the one with storing miniwelder in forearm guards evenn more so!

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« Reply #22 on: <11-19-14/1842:48> »
Where can i find the rules for how much capacity the welder takes up? i could swear i saw it somewhere.

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« Reply #23 on: <11-19-14/1856:51> »
It takes up 1 Capacity. Rules are on page 87 of Run & Gun.

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« Reply #24 on: <11-19-14/1856:57> »
Where can i find the rules for how much capacity the welder takes up? i could swear i saw it somewhere.

Run and gun P87 has the capacity costs of many pieces of boy scout gear. Specifically
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« Reply #25 on: <11-19-14/2037:49> »
sweet thx guys, i knew i had seen it but assumed if it was in R&G it would be in the back.

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« Reply #26 on: <11-20-14/0050:43> »
Capacity for gear stored in armor is at the end of the armor section in R&G.
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Agreed. This looks like a 'training wheels' edition, that you can use to introduce someone to the setting, and then shift over to something like 5E or 4E. Like how D&D 5E is best used as training wheels for D&D 3.X.

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« Reply #27 on: <12-29-14/1357:33> »
My opinion, Imveros? It SHOULD add a concealability penalty. So I disagree with the comparison. It's got a bulky engine, the saw is bigger than the barrel, so it's shaped in all dimensions to a harder-to-conceal shape, there's no way it's as easy to hide as an assault rifle and easier than a sniper rifle. The sniper rifle is at the least still slim, a chainsaw no way.

A chainsaw has a big motor because the torque required to drag those toothed chain-links through the wood and tear little gouges out with sharp steel saw-teeth.

A monofilament saw doesn't need torque so much, just speed.  That's the difference between that and a regular chain saw.  It could use a very small, efficient electric motor that doesn't have to be much bigger than the blade-guard and handle/clamps to attach it to the barrel.