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Alternative to Adept Centering for Mages?

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UnLimiTeD

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« on: <01-24-15/1932:29> »
For once nothing way complicated (I hope):
What is the closest a pure Magician can get to what Adept Centering does, aka, what to do to reduce negative dice pool mods?
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« Reply #1 on: <01-24-15/2012:27> »
There should be centering in the core rule book which is expanded in street grimiore.
Quote- Mirikon on 7/30/2019 at 08:26:51
Agreed. This looks like a 'training wheels' edition, that you can use to introduce someone to the setting, and then shift over to something like 5E or 4E. Like how D&D 5E is best used as training wheels for D&D 3.X.

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« Reply #2 on: <01-24-15/2133:26> »
Only thing I could think of would be giving yourself bonuses, via something like Analyze Device.
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« Reply #3 on: <01-25-15/0110:54> »
There should be centering in the core rule book which is expanded in street grimiore.

Magician Centering only applies to Drain rolls. 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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« Reply #4 on: <01-25-15/0157:10> »
Well crap!
Quote- Mirikon on 7/30/2019 at 08:26:51
Agreed. This looks like a 'training wheels' edition, that you can use to introduce someone to the setting, and then shift over to something like 5E or 4E. Like how D&D 5E is best used as training wheels for D&D 3.X.

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UnLimiTeD

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« Reply #5 on: <01-25-15/0605:36> »
Point is, I'm planning a Magician who... follows the Emo way.
As in, he cuts himself. Sounds a bit like Blood Magic? Well yes, but that's actually pretty useless on yourself.
Inspiration are the Ardent Mages in Endless Legend.
So something akin to Adept Centering would be pretty swell, alas, no luck. :(
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« Reply #6 on: <01-25-15/0826:23> »
Point is, I'm planning a Magician who... follows the Emo way.
As in, he cuts himself. Sounds a bit like Blood Magic? Well yes, but that's actually pretty useless on yourself.
Inspiration are the Ardent Mages in Endless Legend.
So something akin to Adept Centering would be pretty swell, alas, no luck. :(

make him a mystic adept with magician's way


UnLimiTeD

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« Reply #7 on: <01-25-15/0918:37> »
My pool group probably consists of 50% adepts, one way or another.
I don't want to add yet another one to it.
Sides, Adept Centering works on physical actions, which spellcasting is not.
The Adept Power of Heighened Concern would work though.
Still, I'm really trying hard to not make every char an Adept, because it's the better choice nearly every time.
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« Reply #8 on: <01-25-15/0946:35> »
Question: would you be happy playing a mystic adept, or would the adept part bug you enough to make you not enjoy the character? Forget the numbers and character optimization, which will make you have the most fun, full mage or mystic adept?
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« Reply #9 on: <01-25-15/1123:40> »
Hey someone came out and said it in the open!
Wow!
<runs away before the mystic adept hordes pour in complaining they can't get as many shinies during chargen>

My pool group probably consists of 50% adepts, one way or another.
I don't want to add yet another one to it.
Sides, Adept Centering works on physical actions, which spellcasting is not.
The Adept Power of Heighened Concern would work though.
Still, I'm really trying hard to not make every char an Adept, because it's the better choice nearly every time.

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« Reply #10 on: <01-25-15/1147:39> »
Hey someone came out and said it in the open!
Wow!
<runs away before the mystic adept hordes pour in complaining they can't get as many shinies during chargen>

My pool group probably consists of 50% adepts, one way or another.
I don't want to add yet another one to it.
Sides, Adept Centering works on physical actions, which spellcasting is not.
The Adept Power of Heighened Concern would work though.
Still, I'm really trying hard to not make every char an Adept, because it's the better choice nearly every time.

They said Adept, not Mystic Adept.  Big difference. 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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« Reply #11 on: <01-25-15/1330:34> »
Can't you tell an in-joke when I make one?
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« Reply #12 on: <01-25-15/1633:50> »
It's not much but you can go with Channeling out of Street Grimoire, it'll only reduce the negative die pool penalty from wound modifiers though (and I think we'd agree that it's better to not be hurt in the first place).  I'm afraid that's all I got.
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« Reply #13 on: <01-26-15/0625:25> »
Since Adepts have to follow one of two ways to reduce the effect of very specific background counts and are otherwise required to use Adept Centering for it while Magicians can always Cleanse almost with Impunity, I don't think that the latter need another way to remove certain penalties.

UnLimiTeD

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« Reply #14 on: <01-26-15/0729:43> »
It's not much but you can go with Channeling out of Street Grimoire, it'll only reduce the negative die pool penalty from wound modifiers though (and I think we'd agree that it's better to not be hurt in the first place).  I'm afraid that's all I got.
How'd that work?
I thought that only allows you to have a spirit inside you? Or will that result in less wound penalties even if the character itself is in control?

They said Adept, not Mystic Adept.  Big difference. 
The difference is 45 Karma, and doesn't address the problem that adepts are the better faces, better sams, and not worse as mages either, sides not being able to project.
Whatever char you do, unless it needs projecting or Resonance, it's better as an Adept.
And I get along with that, I just don't want another one. In that Pool I already had 2 (with 0 and 1 Magic, though) for 1 mundane, 1 nearly done to be played soon, and until the next Augmentation comes out, I don't see much chance to change that without purposefully gimping myself.
So no, not actually a big difference.  :-\
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