[Jack_Spade]

So, a chemical gland seems to be a real nice piece of ware until you read the following part of the rules:

"Each gland can only produce a single compound, chosen when purchased, and the selection cannot be changed. These compounds must be naturally occurring and not synthetic." p.112 Chrome Flesh

That seems to make this whole thing absolutely useless.

I want to discuss some options, that might work:

Core:
Pepper Punch: If you like to eat spicey and have an immunity this might work as a spit weapon, sadly it would probably be not as effective since you can't replicate the CS and the other chemicals that work in combination with oreocapsicum.

Deepweed: Not synthetic but awakened. By RAW this is actually working. As GM I'd allow it if the player himself is awakened

Novacoke: Cocaine is naturally occuring. This should work. Especially interesting as gradual release drug in combination with a nephritic screen.

Lockdown:
Accelerator doesn't state if it's synthetic, but as a vasodilator it could very well be a natural drug.

Chrome Flesh:

Betel: Definitively natural, but so not worth it...

Cereprax: Not defined, very dangerous to overdo, not recommended

EX/Galak: Awakened drug, natural, not recommended

G3: Natural, but a compound of different plant extracts, so: Maybe

Guts: Not defined, GM call

Hurlg: Sure, why not have a brewery in your belly...

K-10: Not defined, but most likely not a natural product...

Nightwatch: Yes, but seriously, there are cheaper ways to get nightvision

Red Mescaline: Maybe, GM call

Woad: Yes, might be worth it if you also have the narco gen-ware

Overdrive: Yes, but pretty scary side effects

Immortal Flower: Yes, awakened, will eat your essence if you use it continuously and kill you thanks to the damage you sustain from having bioware

Rock Lizard blood: Yes, might be interesting for continuous use

[Pinicles]

Concentrate Adrenalne ?¿
Adrenaline Pump for a entire day?

[Jack_Spade]

Nice idea, but I don't see any sane GM allowing that.

[Bulshock]

Adrenaline is naturally occurring, but we don't have rules for it as a drug other then super adrenaline that is Adrenaline Pump.

Edit: Idea though, what about using it for extra doses of Adrenaline Pump?  As that is just Concentrated Adrenaline.  Say Chem Gland gives 1 rating worth of doses and each reservoir gives another 1 rating worth.  A rating 3 Pump would need a Chem Gland and 2 reservoirs for one extra use that follows the Chem Gland rules for refreshing.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

That's possible.

Functionally, if it's a near derivative of a plant or animal - gamma-scopolamine is a particular favorite of mine - then you could 'grow' it in the gland.  I've house-ruled that in order to grow magically-active drugs (here my fave is Laes), the individual needs to be Awakened themselves.

[ScytheKnight]

About the only thing I can think of to go on would be the Venomous table for Changelings in Run Faster...

[I_AM_ZHOUL!!!]

Wakshaani addressed this saying it was a massive oversight since there aren't really Natural compounds to use. We may get some at some indeterminate point in the future.

[Wakshaani]

Yeah, I really should have taken the time to do up a couple pages of venoms, natural fluids, and general chemical foo that could have gone in here, but I was working on other aspects and didn't focus here like I should have. In my defense, the gland worked the same way in the previous editions and didn't have examples there *either*, but, teh goal is to do things better, not the same.

So, it's on my list of things to revisit at some point.

Dangit.

[Jack_Spade]

@Wakshaani

Could you make a (totally unofficial) comment on the list in the first post?

[farothel]

If you're running in Lagos, I would put a natural antibiotic in there.  Just to be sure when you fall into the water or cut yourself.

[Wakshaani]

@Wakshaani

Could you make a (totally unofficial) comment on the list in the first post?

Well, the big one is that nothing Awakened would pass muster, or, rather, you'd get a mundane equivilent. Mass-producing magical stuff is outside the realm of doable.

That said, all KINDS of stuff would be valid. All parts of the endocrine system, assorted antibodies, and straight-up blood are all valid, tears, bile, and any other bodily fluid (ewww), assorted venoms and toxins from living critters (And note that you can splice in plant-based creations as well), assorted paralytic agents, acids, and bases. Is there a big demand for hagfish slime?  Probably not, but, by thunder, you could make it with the right gland. Puffer fish beom, poison frog toxin (fun when combined with some colorized skin!), lick-a-toad hallucenagens, cobra venom, good ol' box jellyfish venom, bullet ant saliva, hey, wantto be a real jerk? Load up with Gimpy-Gimpy Tree toxins and make your friends beg for death.

You get access to solvents, constructive saliva from papre wasps or packrat preservation urine, skunk spray, like, half of all medicines, ever...

Seriously, the list is *staggeringly* huge.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Hm.  Laes is technically not magically active, it just comes from an Awakened plant.  Thoughts?  (I still think I'd allow it if the character with the gland was Awakened themselves, thus able to play host to the necessary Awakened cells ...)

[CitizenJoe]

There's the base component and then there is the refined drug.  The question is what happens when you eat the fruit of a laes tree?  This applies to most chemicals.  The natural version isn't nearly as potent or fast acting as the commercially produced stuff.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

And here's where you want to be talking 'future tech' instead of 'current tech'.  What happens when you eat the bark of a willow tree?  And yet 'aspirin' could still be considered a drug capable of being used for a chemical gland.  Just because it requires concentration into its 'standard form' doesn't mean it isn't viable.

[Wakshaani]

And here's where you want to be talking 'future tech' instead of 'current tech'.  What happens when you eat the bark of a willow tree?  And yet 'aspirin' could still be considered a drug capable of being used for a chemical gland.  Just because it requires concentration into its 'standard form' doesn't mean it isn't viable.

You've been watching that video with Storm of the lower-back tatoo, haven't you?

Isn't this enough?"