[Rooks]

as topic I see its in run and gun but not what it does or how much it costs or availability

[Zweiblumen]

Are you talking about in the Communications Gear table on p. 87?  If so, great question!  I've no idea.  It's the only use of the term Skinlink in the pdf.  The only other place I can find Skinlink is in data trails talking about the technomancer echo.

[Medicineman]

it's in SR4A (and it's NOT a great question If you know the former Editions it's rather a sad Question ImO )
it used to be an alternative to a cable using the Skins electric field to transport impulses.
it used to cost 50 ¥ with an avail of 6.
IIRC its a paste containing Nanites that you apply on your Skin and the Nanites form a chain to direct the electrical Impulses from (f.E) your Hand that holds a Smartgun via your Arm & Shoulder to your Temple where its then connected to contactlenses (with a Smartlink), your Datajack or the ...strirrup/temple(?) of your Glasses (with Smartlink)
in essence its an alternative to a cable but since CGL wanted to boost the WiFi World (where everything should work better with wireless (Which it doesn't) and player Chars are supposed to be vulnerable to Wireless Matrix Attacks)
 they omitted Skinlink.
Ingame you could buy it until December of 2074 (when SR4A endet) but it disappeared from the Market in 2075

With a wired Dance
Medicineman

[Lighthouse]

CFD ate it. Nanites are bad mkay.

[kyoto kid]

it's in SR4A (and it's NOT a great question If you know the former Editions it's rather a sad Question ImO )
it used to be an alternative to a cable using the Skins electric field to transport impulses.
it used to cost 50 ¥ with an avail of 6.
IIRC its a paste containing Nanites that you apply on your Skin and the Nanites form a chain to direct the electrical Impulses from (f.E) your Hand that holds a Smartgun via your Arm & Shoulder to your Temple where its then connected to contactlenses (with a Smartlink), your Datajack or the ...strirrup/temple(?) of your Glasses (with Smartlink)
in essence its an alternative to a cable but since CGL wanted to boost the WiFi World (where everything should work better with wireless (Which it doesn't) and player Chars are supposed to be vulnerable to Wireless Matrix Attacks)
 they omitted Skinlink.
Ingame you could buy it until December of 2074 (when SR4A endet) but it disappeared from the Market in 2075

With a wired Dance
Medicineman

...not just Wireless Matrix attacks, but also noise and "dead signal" areas.  Was on a mission recently where we were stuck in "Nowheresville" TN. and none of our wireless dependent gear worked (including even Smartlink Implants for which essence was paid) as it was a dead signal area.  Glad my character had a Bio- and Geneware for her sensory and armour augmentations as well as decent gun pools.

[Banshee]

...not just Wireless Matrix attacks, but also noise and "dead signal" areas.  Was on a mission recently where we were stuck in "Nowheresville" TN. and none of our wireless dependent gear worked (including even Smartlink Implants for which essence was paid) as it was a dead signal area.  Glad my character had a Bio- and Geneware for her sensory and armour augmentations as well as decent gun pools.

just a quick note here ... the gear should still function in a dead zone they just don't get the wireless bonus
for example smartlink would still provide the accuracy bonus but not the dice pool bonus

[Medicineman]

...not just Wireless Matrix attacks, but also noise and "dead signal" areas.  Was on a mission recently where we were stuck in "Nowheresville" TN. and none of our wireless dependent gear worked (including even Smartlink Implants for which essence was paid) as it was a dead signal area.  Glad my character had a Bio- and Geneware for her sensory and armour augmentations as well as decent gun pools.

just a quick note here ... the gear should still function in a dead zone they just don't get the wireless bonus
for example smartlink would still provide the accuracy bonus but not the dice pool bonus

If your smartgun is connected via Cable to your DJ  or Smartglasses
No Cable, No WiFi = No Connection.
No Connection = No Bonus/Mod 

with a 5 ¥ Dance
Medicineman

[Kiirnodel]

Yes, but in the wireless world of Shadowrun, there is always some access, even if it remote.

A "Remote, enclosed place (cave, desert ruin)" is listed as Noise 6, pg 231.

So even in "Nowheresville" you would have some sort of access, albeit with a high amount of noise because of the signal "dead zone."

The two items would have the ability to communicate with one another (distance being 0m between them), you just wouldn't benefit from the wireless bonus.

[Banshee]

If your smartgun is connected via Cable to your DJ  or Smartglasses
No Cable, No WiFi = No Connection.
No Connection = No Bonus/Mod 

Yes, but in the wireless world of Shadowrun, there is always some access, even if it remote.
A "Remote, enclosed place (cave, desert ruin)" is listed as Noise 6, pg 231.
So even in "Nowheresville" you would have some sort of access, albeit with a high amount of noise because of the signal "dead zone."
The two items would have the ability to communicate with one another (distance being 0m between them), you just wouldn't benefit from the wireless bonus.

correct ... even in a signal dead zone unless there is something specifically blocking your gear you still have access to it's built in capabilities
dead zones only prevent access to the matrix because you're out of range or being blocked ... you could be in a Faraday cage and would be able to interact with anything that also inside the cage with you just nothing outside of it
you can even use commlinks to communicate with each other in these zones as long as you are with in range of the individual devices themselves since you can not access the wireless network that would extend your range and your able to over come the noise level if present

[Medicineman]

 A signal Dead Zone means NO connection to the Matrix. Am I right ?
 and Yo get all those wonderfull Wireless Bonuses if Your gimmick (Gun, extendable Baton,etc) is connected Wireless to the Matrix .
So If You have NO Wireless connection to the Matrix you can't get the Wireless Bonus.
It is of no meaning if Your Gun can ccommunicate with your Comlink. It gets its Bonuses (Wired and Wireless ) from the Connection to the Matrix.
Thats one of the Baselines of SR5 !

you can even use commlinks to communicate with each other in these zones as long as you are with in range of the individual devices themselves since you can not access the wireless network that would extend your range and your able to over come the noise level if present

I'm not sure if this is RAW (I'm not talking if this makes sense )
AFAIR only the Microtranceiver can communicate ( Range 1 KM) WITHOUT resorting to the Matrix. Every other
Items needs the Matrix.
Now You want to tell me that Commlinks can communicate without the Matrix ?
I highly doubt that.
Plese show me a Page to read it myself and what Range does a Commlink which is not connected to the Matrix
have ?

with a doubtfull Dance
Medicineman

[Kiirnodel]

But Medicineman, remember, The Accuracy bonus of a Smartlink device isn't a Wireless Bonus, it is a basic effect. The Wireless Bonus is the extra dice on attacks.

[Banshee]

I'm not talking about wireless bonus here, only the built in capabilities of the gear. You still need wireless (ie matrix) access to get the extra bonuses

as far as commlink vs transceiver ... a transceiver is really just a stripped down commlink I don't have my book in front of me to give page number references (look up wireless connectivity and noise) but basically all devices have some sort of built in range based on their device ratings relative to noise level and other environmental noise factors ... as long as two devices are within the adjusted range of each other then they can communicate with each other. doesn't matter if it's a smartgun, kitchen appliance, or your commlink

[Zweiblumen]

You wouldn't get any Wireless bonus, but you'd get the inherent (in the case of a smartlink, accuracy) bonus.  Your PAN still exists, your gun can talk to your comlink can talk to your glasses can talk to your wired-reflexes.  But none of these things can talk to the MATRIX, so you can't get any wireless bonuses.  But the device itself still works.

A current world example would be that your garmin running watch can still talk to your smartphone and give you GPS location and your current heart-rate and pace, but if you don't have cell/wifi signal you can't compare your route to others or if you don't have maps loaded locally on your phone the GPS cords don't do you any good as you've no way to visualize them.  Watch still works, but you don't get the bonus features of an internet connection.

[Medicineman]

But Medicineman, remember, The Accuracy bonus of a Smartlink device isn't a Wireless Bonus, it is a basic effect. The Wireless Bonus is the extra dice on attacks.

I Know
Thats Why I wrote that You need a Cable to connect the Smartgun with your Sensors Smartlink.
What Is more of " an Issue" to me right now is that Banshee & Kiirnodel Argue that you can communicate with Commlinks in a Signal Dead Zone
and that You should get the Wired Bonus for Smartlinks in a Signal Dead Zone

Your PAN still exists, your gun can talk to your comlink can talk to your glasses can talk to your wired-reflexes.  But none of these things can talk to the MATRIX, so you can't get any wireless bonuses.  But the device itself still works.

How can They Communicate with each Other ?
 A wvia Cable
B Wireless Via the Matrix

If B is not possiblem, than it's only A
Thats what I'm saying al along

 

What "bothers " me is the  Statement taht Comlinks can communicate in a Signal Dead Zone

you can even use commlinks to communicate with each other in these zones as long as you are with in range of the individual devices themselves since you can not access the wireless network that would extend your range and your able to over come the noise level if present

With a wireless Dance
Medicineman

[Kiirnodel]

I'm not disagreeing with you. You are correct, if the ambient Noise of an area is greater than the Device Rating of the device then you don't get Wireless Bonuses.

I think the issue might be that we're using terms like "Dead Zone" which isn't actually defined in the game rules. Technically SR5 uses terms like "Static Zone" or "Remote" which refers to areas that have high Noise Ratings. They basically state out-right that there is no such thing as a place where there flat-out is NO Matrix

The other thing there is that you seem to have a misunderstanding of how a PAN functions, slaving a device to another means that the two are in direct communication with one another. That is why the benefits and drawbacks of slaving works the way it does.

In any case, like I said before, you can use a Smartlink (get the +2 Accuracy) in a Spam/Static Zone, you just might not get the full benefits from the Wireless Bonus (+2 dice)