[Reaver]

Still want to try my hand at playing a vamp though.

Just so long as you leave the glitter at home.

Otherwise it's KOS.

The only Glitter Boys that should exist are the battle suits from Rifts. I'd be 0 Twilight and all Forever Knight!

That wasn't a bad show, considering its budget and era it was produced in.

[Moonshine Fox]

It had a good mix of heavy seriousness and silly jokes. It also had an episode that addressed what all the stress of being a cop can do to cut you down. Few cop shows ever seem to do that.

[Sendaz]

I remember the episode where Nick is napping in the trunk of his car during the day and his partner takes it for a joyride.

[cantrip]

Honestly, I'm more okay with straight-up killing Vampires than Ghouls. Vampires have to feed upon the living. Ghouls have an unfortunate diet condition and odor.

I appreciate that you pointed out the unfortunate odor! Gave me a well needed chuckle for the day! 

[Sendaz]

Do your Infected suffer from a lingering scent of decay and rotted meat?

After a long night Running Against The Man, does your Infected find their team mates avoid them because of unpleasant undead odours clinging to them?

Then try new WIGHT GUARD™!!!

Guaranteed to leave your Infected smelling fresh and clean a full 24 hours.

[Rift_0f_Bladz]

Lol!

That is up there with the new hunting past time of Mutaqua hunting (owned by Mutaqua Unlimited subsidiary of Ducks Unlimited).

[cantrip]

Do your Infected suffer from a lingering scent of decay and rotted meat?

After a long night Running Against The Man, does your Infected find their team mates avoid them because of unpleasant undead odours clinging to them?

Then try new WIGHT GUARD™!!!

Guaranteed to leave your Infected smelling fresh and clean a full 24 hours.

You should run that by the Horizon PR and marketing team - I think they could make an infectious jingle to go along with it!

[Reaver]

Do your Infected suffer from a lingering scent of decay and rotted meat?

After a long night Running Against The Man, does your Infected find their team mates avoid them because of unpleasant undead odours clinging to them?

Then try new WIGHT GUARD™!!!

Guaranteed to leave your Infected smelling fresh and clean a full 24 hours.

You should run that by the Horizon PR and marketing team - I think they could make an infectious jingle to go along with it!

<face-palm>

[Dinendae]

Do your Infected suffer from a lingering scent of decay and rotted meat?

After a long night Running Against The Man, does your Infected find their team mates avoid them because of unpleasant undead odours clinging to them?

Then try new WIGHT GUARD™!!!

Guaranteed to leave your Infected smelling fresh and clean a full 24 hours.

You should run that by the Horizon PR and marketing team - I think they could make an infectious jingle to go along with it!

<face-palm>

Oh, come on now! This is pure marketing gold! 

[Reaver]

Oh, it's a good pun. Hence the facepalm

[Sphinx]

I've always been a little exasperated by the many, many expressions of Infection, so I applaud JanessaVR's efforts to clean them up. It's likely I will adopt something very close to these rules for future campaigns.

I would not take them entirely off the table as a playable character type, though. The moral dilemmas and roleplaying opportunities are just too good, especially with the "Mind of a Monster" weakness for structure. I'd reserve automatic NPC status as the logical consequence of reaching the last stage of monster grief. (Like "Borrowed Time," it gives the character an expiration date that helps offset other advantages.)

[Cash]

Great debates. Fantastic effort by Janessa. Hopefully it is of some use to people who prefer an alternate take on the Infected.

For my $0.02, I like the Infected exactly as is. I think 5th edition has been the best version of them both as NPC's and as PC possibilities. The fact that there is a real stigma for working with them or even socializing with them is a great, if somewhat uncomfortable mirror into the way certain diseases and disabilities are handled in the real world.

[CarrionCrow]

Necroed... Sorry.

Infected rights... Sure... Setting them all on fire... Sure...
Both are valid. But here is a stab for the pro-infected side.

When looking at it, HMHVV is a dangerous and deadly disease. Infected need to feed on metahumanity in one way or another. I sure as hell find the idea of being eaten alive to be terrifying. But after I am dead I could not give much of a crap what happens to that waste product that used to be my body, its just meat without a consciousness inside it.

Now liken HMHVV to other diseases that will seriously mess up life for oneself and possibly others. HIV, AIDS for example. These diseases are a life sentence and even with heavy meds they will still alter your life quite a bit and possibly lead to an early death. Just a few decades ago it was a death sentence to get infected. The disease is infectious, if you're being sloppy its only a matter of time until you ruin another persons life. Would it then have been alright just to burn everyone who contracted HIV/AIDS? I find it unlikely anyone would say yes to this.
Sure, HMHVV is way way worse but both cases can lead to a trail of bodies.

Another example... The chromed up Street Samurai with a potential for cyberpsychosis. Hey, he/she/it could snap at any time and butcher their way through a neighborhood before anyone is able to stop em. Euthanize right away?
What about the awakened with superhuman psychosis... They clearly give no shits for the lives of others. Euthanize? 
Head Cases?
Followers of mentor spirits with hot tempers?
Any augmented metahuman is less "human" than someone that is not augmented. And as mentioned, augs might lead to cyberpsychosis or becoming a head case... Hell augs is not even needed to become a head case and its even more virulent than even the Krieger strain.

[Medicineman]

Asamando ! (the Ghoul State in Africa)

Do you know how that state survives ?
 by using its surrounding Villagers as living Cattle ! The people are caught, rounded up and slaughtered to feed the masses of Ghouls that "live" in Asamando. 
IIRC a Ghoul needs 10% of it's weight in Human Flesh per week thats 5x its weight a Year.
there's 0.5 Mio Ghouls in Asamando.
That means they need to slaughter 2.5 Million People per Year to feed the Ghouls
(and thats only when the Ghoulpopulation is stable, but HMMVV is highly contagious...Highly )
If that's ok for You go ahead, but it sure ain't ok for me.

Hough!
Medicineman

[MijRai]

And what about the ghouls who work for morgues/sanitation/what-have-you that have never killed or Infected anyone else?  Or an affluent person who was infected with Krieger Strain (or, a valued family member was Infected) and pays people for their bodies to go to the larder after their deaths? 

While an Infected state has many flaws (especially since all of their neighbors could fall into the 'food' category to the militant ones), the Infected can get along in society with some effort.