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« Reply #15 on: <01-20-16/2324:44> »
Don't see why these other anthrodrones can't have realistic features 4. There doesn't seem to be any restriction on it beyond gm approval, cost, and maybe MP, depending on how you interpret it. The duelist, at least, starts with rating (1) and we had no qualms about upgrading that to a 4.  Also added a multi-fuel engine so it can eat food like a real person!

In an effort to make it more autonomous and give it more active autosofts, I've incorporated an RCC into the design, in a smuggling compartment in one of its drone legs, but I'm not sure what the hierarchy should look like - drone slaved to RCC with an agent and autosofts running? Who gives the orders then, the agent to the pilot? Or does it just have two "minds" active at once? Any thoughts or is this illegal for some reason?

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« Reply #16 on: <01-21-16/0926:41> »
Don't see why these other anthrodrones can't have realistic features 4. There doesn't seem to be any restriction on it beyond gm approval, cost, and maybe MP, depending on how you interpret it. The duelist, at least, starts with rating (1) and we had no qualms about upgrading that to a 4.  Also added a multi-fuel engine so it can eat food like a real person!
does Realistic Features take up MP? I think Realistic Features 4 is around uncanny valley territory 3 is probably good enough plus Realistic feature 4 is kinda expensive and outside character creation. Are realstic features "upgradeable"? or is it start from scratch? somehow I cant understand even with armor how you "add" armor to a preexisting drone course I guess its like screwing on more sheets of armor over top it then added on something like realistic features or chameleon coating
In an effort to make it more autonomous and give it more active autosofts, I've incorporated an RCC into the design, in a smuggling compartment in one of its drone legs, but I'm not sure what the hierarchy should look like - drone slaved to RCC with an agent and autosofts running? Who gives the orders then, the agent to the pilot? Or does it just have two "minds" active at once? Any thoughts or is this illegal for some reason?
the drone would probably be controlled by the pilot on the RCC which is controlled by the user which uses the autosofts installed on the RCC

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« Reply #17 on: <01-21-16/1040:30> »
does Realistic Features take up MP?
It is not documented to. In my mind, it's basically a full-conversion new model of the drone, so it doesn't take any MP because it's functionally redoing everything about the drone.

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« Reply #18 on: <01-21-16/1306:59> »

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the drone would probably be controlled by the pilot on the RCC which is controlled by the user which uses the autosofts installed on the RCC

Well, the idea is to run it autonomously. Obviously when jumping in, the drone will need to be marked by a device in the hands of the rigger, but I'm wondering what it would look like to have a "processing" RCC integral to the drone that gives it access to a couple more autosofts, a higher data processing and firewall, and an agent program to perform matrix defense for it. The agent should be able to run autonomously and if the drone is slaved to the RCC then how does it interact with other matrix icons? The rules here are not really clear to me.  Also, I don't think the pilot can reside on the RCC..

As for realistic features, we'd been using the MP cost from the vehicle section bc the wasn't one listed in the drone section. I'm not sure that's right, but it seemed like an extensive enough upgrade that MP should be required.

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« Reply #19 on: <01-28-16/1710:39> »
Any of the anthroform drones would work. Upgrading the pilot to 4 Then boosting it to six with designer and optimisation benefits now gives ability to run 6 Autosofts/programs (wakshani confirmed in the rigger errata thread) so you can easily skimp on skills to up your resources to pimp one anthro drone. The dual cyber Limbs and legs can be pimped and you can use metahuman guns and armour. Brilliant! Plus you can mod the drone with a stealth rating from Data trails and go hacking, emulating an attack rating if you need to crack encryption. By walking up to a device, the drone can connect a cable tap and cable into the drone's universal port and you get to do direct connection hacking. Schwing!
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« Reply #20 on: <01-28-16/2053:02> »
Transys maid ftw!

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« Reply #21 on: <01-29-16/1149:55> »
Any of the anthroform drones would work. Upgrading the pilot to 4 Then boosting it to six with designer and optimisation benefits now gives ability to run 6 Autosofts/programs (wakshani confirmed in the rigger errata thread) so you can easily skimp on skills to up your resources to pimp one anthro drone. The dual cyber Limbs and legs can be pimped and you can use metahuman guns and armour. Brilliant! Plus you can mod the drone with a stealth rating from Data trails and go hacking, emulating an attack rating if you need to crack encryption. By walking up to a device, the drone can connect a cable tap and cable into the drone's universal port and you get to do direct connection hacking. Schwing!
Wait? how you getting pilot rating of 6 without upgrading the Pilot?

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« Reply #22 on: <01-29-16/1222:29> »
Wait? how you getting pilot rating of 6 without upgrading the Pilot?
Optimization. Because you're an AI and can do that!

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« Reply #23 on: <01-29-16/1447:30> »
And the designer positive quality. +2 pilot for the cost of pilot 4 which is about 3k or something affordable!
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« Reply #24 on: <01-31-16/0204:01> »
One thing to do would be to increase social skills, so you can mimic being a metahuman piloting the drone.  Alternatively, add in a good personasoft and just lie to the rest of the team/ the public that you have a very highly advanced pilot program to explain why you are so effective.  Throw in a jammer if you want to stop a decker, take up ECM warfare skill as one of the beginning skills, throw in pilot drone (ground vehicle) origin, and you could make for a good street sam/rigger character.

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« Reply #25 on: <01-31-16/0729:01> »
My vote for best drone for an AI is a blank slate metatype... make his chipjack your home... chrome the heck out of the meatbody.

Might be on the morally corrupt side...but heck, you're a shadowrunner, not Mother Teresa.


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« Reply #26 on: <01-31-16/1101:19> »
I always have wanted rules for metahuman biodrones...
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« Reply #27 on: <01-31-16/1216:37> »
I dunno I think it does take up MP.
As it involves electro-mechanical devices to simulate breathing, heart beat, circulatory system, skin, hair etc.
So yeah, I'm pretty sure it does take up mod points.
Also it's in the "mod" section and there is a mod point cost for it in the tables at the end of the book, so yeah it takes up mod points.


If you read the text description you will realize that the higher levels (above rating 2) are mostly inaccessible to normal folks and cannot be modded onto most anthro drones.
see below.

So absent a facility and the skills and time to custom mod an anthro drone you SOL.

Unless you buy an i-doll which specifically says it can be customized at the factory to be more realistic than it's default mod of realistic features 1.

As usual you must sift multiple entries throughout the book to make sense of what is possible when it should have all been written nicely and concisely in the entry for Realistic Features.

"While many drones can be made realistic (receiving Rating 1), allowing them to pass at a casual glance at a distance or at night, wheels, quad fans, and so on are quite dif cult to disguise. Most drones cannot be given Realistic Features beyond Rating 1, while some cannot even obtain that level. (The gamemaster is the  nal arbi- trator on what is and isn’t appropriate.) Realistic Features 2 can be added with a Shop, but higher than this requires a Facility (most drones this realistic are designed as such before being sold)."

does Realistic Features take up MP?
It is not documented to. In my mind, it's basically a full-conversion new model of the drone, so it doesn't take any MP because it's functionally redoing everything about the drone.
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« Reply #28 on: <01-31-16/2305:43> »
My vote for best drone for an AI is a blank slate metatype... make his chipjack your home... chrome the heck out of the meatbody.

Might be on the morally corrupt side...but heck, you're a shadowrunner, not Mother Teresa.

Some Shadowrunners  would be appalled by that,other have done worst for the lulz.either way its a interesting Idea.

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« Reply #29 on: <01-31-16/2318:00> »
My vote for best drone for an AI is a blank slate metatype... make his chipjack your home... chrome the heck out of the meatbody.

Might be on the morally corrupt side...but heck, you're a shadowrunner, not Mother Teresa.

Some Shadowrunners  would be appalled by that,other have done worst for the lulz.either way its a interesting Idea.
Just install rigger controls and a chipjack on a wimp. Problem solved.

Still would choose the Secretary drone.
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