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ZeldaBravo

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« Reply #15 on: <01-19-16/1758:22> »

A Powerblade operates on the same principle as a Powerbolt or Powerball, affecting physical objects, capable of parrying and resisted by armor.

...except that Powerbolt/ball is a direct physical spell and ignores armor.

Which means...what? It's very unclear how this spell is actually supposed to work.

Yeah but if we ignore the "operates on the same principle" part then the Powerblade is indirect and has AP equal to it's force. I guess that's what they meant.
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« Reply #16 on: <01-19-16/2019:43> »
A Mysad has the option to cast levitate and agony, not a bad approximation of Force Choke imo.  Oh, and pretty sure there's a spell that let's you fry someone with bolts of lightning... just saying.

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« Reply #17 on: <01-19-16/2021:05> »

Which means...what? It's very unclear how this spell is actually supposed to work.
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« Reply #18 on: <01-19-16/2027:43> »
Power blade casted through a fetish sword hilt

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« Reply #19 on: <01-19-16/2122:00> »
Okay, I thought I was up to date on all the 5e magic books, but I've never heard of power blade or adept spell. Where did these come from?

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« Reply #20 on: <01-19-16/2226:30> »

The idea behind making the hilt both a fetish and a sustaining focus is that if you lose your lightsaber you cannot deflect blaster shots anymore. Pretty simple.
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« Reply #21 on: <01-19-16/2233:31> »
Yeah but if we ignore the "operates on the same principle" part then the Powerblade is indirect and has AP equal to it's force. I guess that's what they meant.
I prefer ignoring the link to combat spells entirely, which leaves manipulation spells as an option.

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« Reply #22 on: <01-19-16/2259:44> »
Okay, I thought I was up to date on all the 5e magic books, but I've never heard of power blade or adept spell. Where did these come from?
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« Reply #23 on: <01-22-16/1231:54> »
Well here's how she's turned out so far, let me know if the link doesn't work :P

https://stormy-waters-2075.obsidianportal.com/characters/tc-stormcrow

Still got to finalise some gear for her, and contacts but the bare bones are beginning to fall in to place...
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« Reply #24 on: <01-22-16/1313:43> »
Well here's how she's turned out so far, let me know if the link doesn't work :P

https://stormy-waters-2075.obsidianportal.com/characters/tc-stormcrow

Still got to finalise some gear for her, and contacts but the bare bones are beginning to fall in to place...
Looks good. You could *probably* get by with only 1 rank of Spell Casting (maybe with a specialization, if you really want) but yeah. Solid build, assuming you and your GM have come up with reasonable house rules for the 'blade itself.
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« Reply #25 on: <01-23-16/1907:50> »
Nobody has any clue how _____blade is meant to work because of how messy the writing is; best thing to do is ignore it.

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« Reply #26 on: <01-24-16/0441:43> »
Nobody has any clue how _____blade is meant to work because of how messy the writing is; best thing to do is ignore it.

I do have a clue actually.
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« Reply #27 on: <01-24-16/1334:04> »
Yeah, one is meant to be a direct mana spell and the other an indirect one with AP equal to force. At least that is what the description infers.
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« Reply #28 on: <01-25-16/0948:20> »
I find Manablade and Powerblade to be pretty straightforward.

Magic + Spellcasting (no specialization because it's a weird thing, but if I had to classify, it's Manipulation) - if you get any net hits, you have a blade of the given type that is statted out thusly:

Manablade:
[Force]P damage
[Force] Accuracy
Reach 1

You can attack with your Manablade with Clubs or Blades and it deals higher damage as normal for net hits. It can only be parried by powerblades, manablades or weapon foci. It's damage is resisted by Willpower alone.

Powerblade:
[Force]P damage
[Force] Accuracy
Reach 1

You can attack with your Powerblade with Clubs or Blades and it deals higher damage as normal for net hits. It can be parried by anything and armor is used to resist it.

That said, I agree with Jack_Spade here:
Yeah, one is meant to be a direct mana spell and the other an indirect one with AP equal to force. At least that is what the description infers.

I believe that Powerblade is supposed to also have -Force AP. They just used Powerblade where they should have used Punchblade/Cloutblade/Blastblade instead. Personally, I'd also drop the drain value on the Powerblade down to F-4 because it's worse in most ways. And I'd add Lightningblade, Fireblade, Acidblade, Iceblade, Radiationblade, Pollutionblade, and Sunblade as options, with differing drain codes.

The Elemental Blade spells would then mostly be F-2 (like Manablade) because you'd also get the elemental effect. I could be argued into having Waterblade at F-3 as well, because it makes me laugh so much. And I'd allow an Adept Spell version that only allows you to cast it through a sustaining focus, but you get all the X-Blades you want to buy at 5 karma apiece. The power only comes with one though.

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« Reply #29 on: <01-29-16/0255:37> »
I find Manablade and Powerblade to be pretty straightforward.

Magic + Spellcasting (no specialization because it's a weird thing, but if I had to classify, it's Manipulation) - if you get any net hits, you have a blade of the given type that is statted out thusly:

Manablade:
[Force]P damage
[Force] Accuracy
Reach 1

You can attack with your Manablade with Clubs or Blades and it deals higher damage as normal for net hits. It can only be parried by powerblades, manablades or weapon foci. It's damage is resisted by Willpower alone.

Powerblade:
[Force]P damage
[Force] Accuracy
Reach 1

You can attack with your Powerblade with Clubs or Blades and it deals higher damage as normal for net hits. It can be parried by anything and armor is used to resist it.

That said, I agree with Jack_Spade here:
Yeah, one is meant to be a direct mana spell and the other an indirect one with AP equal to force. At least that is what the description infers.

I believe that Powerblade is supposed to also have -Force AP. They just used Powerblade where they should have used Punchblade/Cloutblade/Blastblade instead. Personally, I'd also drop the drain value on the Powerblade down to F-4 because it's worse in most ways. And I'd add Lightningblade, Fireblade, Acidblade, Iceblade, Radiationblade, Pollutionblade, and Sunblade as options, with differing drain codes.

The Elemental Blade spells would then mostly be F-2 (like Manablade) because you'd also get the elemental effect. I could be argued into having Waterblade at F-3 as well, because it makes me laugh so much. And I'd allow an Adept Spell version that only allows you to cast it through a sustaining focus, but you get all the X-Blades you want to buy at 5 karma apiece. The power only comes with one though.
I like all of this.  Best summary of a balanced take on the blade spells, with good elemental options.