[Whiskeyjack]

Also I firmly believe that eyes/ears as packages are generally not worth it. One of my aphorisms is "never buy with magic or essence what you can buy solely with nuyen." In this case I have never regretted eschewing eyes/ears for glasses, contacts, and earbuds. The one except is a retinal smartlink since the benefits of paying for it with essence are huge.

[Duellist_D]

Eh, its one die, thats not exactly that huge.

The only real use i see in cybereyes over external devices with the same functionality is that you can't lose them and have all packed into one single device that doesn't stand out that much.
Contacs have pretty limited capacity and glasses/visors might get lost or stand out in a place.

But yeah, if you are really short on Essence, you can do without Cybereyes without losing to much.

[Rooks]

true, even if you do get hacked *removes glasses like Horatio Caine then says a cool line before blasting the decker away. YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAH

[Strange]

Also I firmly believe that eyes/ears as packages are generally not worth it. One of my aphorisms is "never buy with magic or essence what you can buy solely with nuyen." In this case I have never regretted eschewing eyes/ears for glasses, contacts, and earbuds. The one except is a retinal smartlink since the benefits of paying for it with essence are huge.

Mages being an exception, but they pay double it.  Hard to justify that, too.

[Rooks]

sure they still sell magnifying eye pieces over electronic eye pieces just for mages still

[Whiskeyjack]

Also I firmly believe that eyes/ears as packages are generally not worth it. One of my aphorisms is "never buy with magic or essence what you can buy solely with nuyen." In this case I have never regretted eschewing eyes/ears for glasses, contacts, and earbuds. The one except is a retinal smartlink since the benefits of paying for it with essence are huge.

Mages being an exception, but they pay double it.  Hard to justify that, too.

I wouldn't bother losing the Essence for any mainline caster. Non-Essence vision mods are good enough even if they don't help your targeting.

For an adept, PT + 1 ESS of additional ware is pretty much per se better than most 1 PP combinations.

But I was speaking generally anyway. There are always exceptions.

[Rift_0f_Bladz]

Even without PT, if you have the money, losing a point of essence is generally worth it.

[Whiskeyjack]

Even without PT, if you have the money, losing a point of essence is generally worth it.

For an adept definitely.

For a caster...it really depends.

[Duellist_D]

I'd say, even for a caster its most likely always usefull.
Paineditor, LOG/INT Boosts outweight the loss of one Magic by far, imho.

[Whiskeyjack]

Int Boost is super expensive, LOG boost is decent. Pain Editor - just don't get hit

[ikarinokami]

The pain editor isn't about not being hit or taking damage  it's the ability to absorb massive amounts of stun drain, it works well with platets factories

[Whiskeyjack]

Optimizing drain is so easy I don't really know how worth it it is unless you plan on actually casting at high Force, which is really only relevant for indirect combat spells.

[Duellist_D]

Even small after-soak drain adds up pretty quick.

Regarding the price of the bossters:
Expensive, but worth the bucks if you can afford them.
Even more when its the Attribute of your tradition.

I also always feel as if there is very little reason to not stick at least a lvl 3 Bioware Agilitybooster in every Charakter.
This thing is so incredibly efficient, its not even funny.

[Rooks]

still dunno the offical ruling (running theme) on if drugs like jazz can stack with improved/wired reflexes/synaptic booster/moved by wire

[ZeldaBravo]

Drugs stack with everything unless there is an entry under the piece of 'ware that mentions grugs specifically.